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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Gondric on September 10, 2006, 12:51:04 pm
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Hello, This is the promotion thread for the yliakum knights
Ranks are as follows...
Squire <--- newbie rank
Knight
Great Knight
Elite Knight
Hero
Paladin
Sir Chaz <--- chazarus
Sir. Gondric <-- me
History (might be changed sorta temp for now)
A young Dwarf called Gondric was born in the town of Hydlaa. He grew up in a small suburb called delvor in east hydlaa. (actual place is the lower part of east hydlaa) it was nice little suburb where nothing much happened then one day a group of rouges came into town and looted the suburb and killed anyone who got in their way. only a few men and women remained after the attack. Gondric Father was killed fighting against the rouges and his mother was pushed form a second story window. Gondric was taken in by a family of Enkis who were their neighbours. They soon left delvor and travelled to ojaveda and had a small general store there selling various goods. As he was 13, and old enough to understand what has happend in the past, he swore that as long as he lives he would do everything that is possible to keep away the rouges out of Delvor and Hydlaa. And he swore that no other child will get in the same dire situation like him.
After that realisation, his first thought was to become very strong and gather more beeings with the same attitude, to fight with combined forces against the enemies.
After a sleepless night he thanked his stepparents for all they did, and he began the travel back to Hydlaa to do his destination."
On the way he met a Master Craftsmen called chazarus who was a fine craftsman and his partner vihed. they were also heading to hydlaa so gondric told them his story as they walked. chazarus was also a master of the blade and taught gondric alot about how to wield a sword as they went along the long dusty road. one night they stopped at an inn along ojaveda road and slept there overnight. he overheard 3 of wild men talking about Delvor, Gondric Listened for a while a heard them say that they in the group of rougess who looted Delvor all those years ago. Gondric went up stairs to his room and took Chazarus's blade from inside chaz's backpack and crept downstairs. Gondric Walked up to the men and unsheathed his sword. He quickly killed the first of the men and stabbed the second in the back. the third was allerted to what was going on and started fighting gondric. The wild man gave Gondric a cut just above his left eyebrow. Vihed who woke up form all the comotion came down and threw one of his finely crafted daggers at the mans head and got his staight in the eye. "what the hell are you doing Gondric" yelled Vihed. "they killed my parents" said gondric.
Vihed shook his head an went back upstairs. Gondric soon followed. The next day they travveled the rest of the way to Hydlaa and Gondric went to have a look at Delvor it was a mess but his house was still there... abandoned. So Gondric decicded to move back into his house and asked Chazarus if he wanted too aswell. Chaz accepted since he didnt have a house. Vihed moved in with his Brother. Gondric Stayed in his house for many years and he noticed as the years pasted in how bad shape Hydlaa was so much crime murder. Gondric had become a great swordsman and had come in possesion of some fine blades and very strong armor. Gondric decided to join The Yliakum Knights which was a the few guards that hydlaa had at the time which needed members. He rose up thru the ranks over the years and was appointed a Squad of his own which consisted of a few Men. Gondrics group headed out of hydlaa one day and went to one of the nearby villages. Hydlaa was attacked while Gondrics Squad was out at the village. The Yliakum knights were heavily outnumbered and lost the battle hydlaa was looted and burnt in some areas. By the time Gondric got back the enemie force was gone. Gondric was the highest ranking Knight left and was appointed Leader of the Yliakum knights.
Chazarus and Vihed made the Yliakum knights some high quality wepons and armor so that next time hydlaa was attacked they could defend it more easily. 3 years pasted an Hydlaa returned to normal and The yliakum knights were not needed anymore. The hydlaa Guard took over the defense of hydlaa. Delvor had since been abandoned by all who lived in it except Gondric and a few others who were in the yliakum knights who lived there. The Yliakum Knights Took over Delvor and claimed it as their Own now all in the yliakum knights live there. It became their barracks of sorts. This is how the Yliakum knights became under the leadership of Sir. Gondric.
Looking for warriors to join...
The war was cancelled due to problems in winds of abyss mainly there leader leaving.
If your name was mentioned in the history and ur annyoyed by that ill change it................. maybe
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/GON.../
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I can personally say, if you join this guild You will succeed.
I know gondric and He is the type of leader everyone can look up to.
And where gondric falls short there is Chazarus to hold him steady.
Chazarus has helped me many times and is one of Yliakums Greatest Sword crafters, he has many 1000 quality swords that hit like /10's.
These 2 leaders with their strong family bond they help create make ONE great team. :thumbup:
Seriously check them out before you go to any other guild.
~~Datruth
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A gm informed a certain kran i know that intentionally crafing weapons to excessively high qualiy because they hit so hard, as you described, is tantamount to cheating as it is a bug exploit... I don't know that it is necessarily the wisest thing to be advertizing..
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It's against the rules?... lol well ppl r gonna abuse it cos all that mining takes ages and for a SS lol
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Sure Gon and you still want a practice war this weekend?
My history is nearly finished :sweatdrop:ill put it up soon
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yeh im still in.. lol got some mercenaries workin for me.
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A gm informed a certain kran i know that intentionally crafing weapons to excessively high qualiy because they hit so hard, as you described, is tantamount to cheating as it is a bug exploit... I don't know that it is necessarily the wisest thing to be advertizing..
Creating a quality 10k/50 sounds at least odd to me. I mean, something regarding the math of this problem doesn't seem quite right. If MaxQuality = 50 and YourWeaponsQuality = 10.000 then hmm... you'd get some stack overflow or something :P. So... yeah, that is a bug. And... yeah it will be fixed. Oh, and... yeah, abusing it is considered cheating because it is a bug... and people are exploiting it... and exploiting a bug is cheating. And, of course, you could say that you got that quality by unwilingly heating and cooling a blade untill you got bored to tears but my guess is that nobody will believe you. Thus prooving that you were aware of the bug and intentionally exploited it.
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You won't survive. No originiality. No grammar.
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You won't survive. No originiality. No grammar.
Dont say things like that. Give them a chance before you go predicting their downfall.
The guild interests me. Do you have a website or some sort of extra information I can read?
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They have already fallen down a few times;
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25150.0
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24110.0
But i think 'hope' the intention is to learn from their mistakes...
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Well, you know, 3rd time lucky :P
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;Dhey gondric can you bump me up plizzz vi told me if i rigisteer on forum im goin to be bumpet up :-X :P
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;Dhey gondric can you bump me up plizzz vi told me if i rigisteer on forum im goin to be bumpet up :-X :P
What the hell did he just say?
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just what i said are you in the guild 2 ;D
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Nope, but can you try writing in proper english please, so we can read it easier. thanks.
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They have already fallen down a few times;
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25150.0
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24110.0
But i think 'hope' the intention is to learn from their mistakes...
Our mistakes had nothing to do with the failures of those guilds.
Calthos and Gisera, were their downfalls, without them we would have been fine.
~~Datruth
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You won't survive. No originiality. No grammar.
Dont say things like that. Give them a chance before you go predicting their downfall.
The guild interests me. Do you have a website or some sort of extra information I can read?
I'll say what I please, because I know what I'm talking about.
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Gondric don't forget to /tell me when the war is starting, looking forward to it.
Frak
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This reminds me of that fake guild the...whatever their names were advertised and impersonated 8 year olds in the process
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http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25390.0
They were called the Vampire HunterLords. Get it right! ;) Also I was pretending to be a 47 yr old who lived with his mom and talked like an 8 yr old :/
Read it. Learn what not to do.
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You won't survive. No originiality. No grammar.
Dont say things like that. Give them a chance before you go predicting their downfall.
The guild interests me. Do you have a website or some sort of extra information I can read?
I'll say what I please, because I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sorry you were told not to talk, you have every right too.
But I don't remember you Being in WOA, so i can't quite expect you would know why WOA fell apart.
Woa would have been alive even today, had it not been for Calthos and Gisera.
Those are the facts, I was in the guild, and i know what happened.
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You won't survive. No originiality. No grammar.
Dont say things like that. Give them a chance before you go predicting their downfall.
The guild interests me. Do you have a website or some sort of extra information I can read?
I'll say what I please, because I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sorry you were told not to talk, you have every right too.
But I don't remember you Being in WOA, so i can't quite expect you would know why WOA fell apart.
Woa would have been alive even today, had it not been for Calthos and Gisera.
Those are the facts, I was in the guild, and i know what happened.
I think you're confusing me with "that other person" (Krann Omins) who said something about your previous guild. I never even noticed it, so I'm not basing my predictions on previous failures, I'm basing it on what I've seen of this guild so far.
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Phinehas, you were not hugged as a child were you.
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ok well i read everythin and ill try to answer qustions.
binool i will rank u once i am able to get back online.
I think someone asked about the older guilds. The yliakum knights were the original name of the wrath of azure which fell apart. i got permission to use this name from gharan (gharin).
anything else?
forum 2 posts down...
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Phinehas, you were not hugged as a child were you.
;D
Phinehas, I was not saying you could or could not talk, I was just saying atleast give them a chance before you predict thier downfall.
Im sorry if you took it differently. I apologise.
EDIT: You may want to fix that link, its pretty broken. Such as the spelling of 'FORUMS'
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lol srry ill fix it. ill just copy and paste the real link.
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http://www.bestfreeforums.com/forums/yliakumknights.html
Here u go croc not much info on there the history... but thats on here too.
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Its ok Ive already fixed the link and im on it now, and signed up.
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so im guessing u want to join. ur ingame name croconil?
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so im guessing u want to join. ur ingame name croconil?
Erm..I will get back to you on that, because I may be forming my own guild in the near future. If my guild does work, Maybe we can be allies?
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Phinehas, I was not saying you could or could not talk, I was just saying atleast give them a chance before you predict thier downfall.
They have been weighed, they have been measured, and they have been found wanting.
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Ok. I have thought it over and I would like to join the Yliakum Knights.
My ingame name is croconil.
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but this is easyer to rite zow :)
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I really want to flame people for dissing the WoA and for being overly judgemental about the Yliakum Knights history.
Yeah maybe it does have some serious errors in Grammar and also spelling but thats not the point, its not a novel, its a history for a guild in a PC game. it would be better if the english was accurate but it isnt.
The fact that they have been judged to fail by someone whos opinion they should really not care about is rediculous.
Does the english involved even matter? Whats more important, that or the spirit in which it was written, atleast they have made an attempt at it.
As for WoA, get over it, guilds come and go, should all the players stop playing? should the change their Characters?
Is it unthinkable (IC) that when a Guild collapses that the members would move on in their lives? or would they all be so shamed they would kill themselves.
Some seem to forget that this is not RL and is actually a PC game, the idea of which is to have fun, if that is the case then WoA must be one of the most sucsessful Guilds.
Things like this make me wonder whether it is even worth coming up with a guild history just to be knocked down by people who THINK they are superior.
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I really want to flame people for dissing the WoA and for being overly judgemental about the Yliakum Knights history.
Yeah maybe it does have some serious errors in Grammar and also spelling but thats not the point, its not a novel, its a history for a guild in a PC game. it would be better if the english was accurate but it isnt.
The fact that they have been judged to fail by someone whos opinion they should really not care about is rediculous.
Does the english involved even matter? Whats more important, that or the spirit in which it was written, atleast they have made an attempt at it.
As for WoA, get over it, guilds come and go, should all the players stop playing? should the change their Characters?
Is it unthinkable (IC) that when a Guild collapses that the members would move on in their lives? or would they all be so shamed they would kill themselves.
Some seem to forget that this is not RL and is actually a PC game, the idea of which is to have fun, if that is the case then WoA must be one of the most sucsessful Guilds.
Things like this make me wonder whether it is even worth coming up with a guild history just to be knocked down by people who THINK they are superior.
I hope for your sake that wasn't directed towards me. Was it?
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/Phinehas turns big and green and ripps out of all of his clothes.
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I hope for your sake that wasn't directed towards me. Was it?
Some was, yes, some wasn't. I'm refering to the responses in this topic as a whole. I'm well aware that you didn't remark about WoA.
But your judgements about their guild history are just unwarranted.
Oh, and the final line was actually directed at you specifically.
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But your judgements about their guild history are just unwarranted.
What have I said about their guild history? As I see it I said "No originality. No grammar." The "No originality" comment was not about the history itself, but about the guild itself, and I stand by it. The "No grammar." comment was simply an amusing side note. Please stop making it sound like I've written pages of flaming posts saying how utterly moronic their history is.
Oh, and the final line was actually directed at you specifically.
I realize that. What you have to realize is that I don't think of myself as better. I think of myself as more experienced. I am. If you can't tell the difference, I can.
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Ok, you may be more experienced, you obviously think so,
They have been weighed, they have been measured, and they have been found wanting.
That comment is what led me to believe you were judging the history of the guild and thinking you were better than them, I may have been wrong but your last post just reaffirmed that belief in my mind. If that was not a judgement I don't know what is. Were your comments in any way constructive?
I didn't in anyway suggest you had written pages of flames about this, but people have written pages of unconstructive comments.
I just believe it would be better for them and the community as a whole if you used your experience to help rather than to judge.
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All I can say is :offtopic:
Can we stop with the arguing and keep this thread about the guild.
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Ok, you may be more experienced, you obviously think so,
They have been weighed, they have been measured, and they have been found wanting.
That comment is what led me to believe you were judging the history of the guild and thinking you were better than them, I may have been wrong but your last post just reaffirmed that belief in my mind. If that was not a judgement I don't know what is. Were your comments in any way constructive?
That comment was simply a reiteration of my first post.
I didn't in anyway suggest you had written pages of flames about this, but people have written pages of unconstructive comments.
I just believe it would be better for them and the community as a whole if you used your experience to help rather than to judge.
I believe in a trial by fire. I cannot spend all my time studying every guild, and offering thoroughly thought-out suggestions that most likely won't even be considered. All I'm saying is, this guild is not original. If it is not made more original, it will most likely not survive.
Hopefully, you would then logically conclude that you should make your guild more original. I can't tell you how to do that, it's not my guild. However, you could look around, study other guilds, ask people for suggestions, read posts like Hierarchy Atrocities. It's your guild, not mine, you take the initiative in improving it.
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Trial by fire is not a good idea and turns people off even wanting to try.
The guild may not have totally original ideas, and, I must say, does not have an original name (sorry Gondric).
I just think you could either have commented constructively or at the very least not commented at all.
And can I point out that this is not my guild and I am not a member of it.
If you wish to respond further i would reccomend it was in PMs so as not to get this topic locked or deleted.
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Trial by fire is not a good idea and turns people off even wanting to try.
The guild may not have totally original ideas, and, I must say, does not have an original name (sorry Gondric).
I just think you could either have commented constructively or at the very least not commented at all.
And can I point out that this is not my guild and I am not a member of it.
If you wish to respond further i would reccomend it was in PMs so as not to get this topic locked or deleted.
Thank you for stopping this in the thread. Taking the sensible approach.
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To be honest, who gives a damn whether they are original or not? They are organising RP events and they are enjoying playing the game, seems like a pretty good thing if you ask me.
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I think it should be argued here in the open, because it's important to the guild. Would you have me whisper about them behind their backs? I have no desire to discuss my attitude towards guilds in general or some such thing. I believe that topic came up when everyone started telling me to not say anything.
All I really want to do in this thread is to talk about the guild.
I still believe that this guild is not original, and that steps should be taken to make it more original. I doubt you care what I think, but if you do, great! If you want me to give advice on what you could improve, ask for it!
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To be honest, who gives a damn whether they are original or not? They are organising RP events and they are enjoying playing the game, seems like a pretty good thing if you ask me.
I have not seen a post that I have agreed with more :)
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Please stop making it sound like I've written pages of flaming posts saying how utterly moronic their history is.
It's not just this guild man. Nearly every guild that posts you rip them a new one. Nothing is good enough for you so you tear them apart. Piece by piece. You're like a bitter old man. You constantly hi-jack threads and spew your venom.
Please stop hurting people with your shallow judgements.
A lot of the people that play this game are english as a second language. They don't know that they have made a mistake. But you don't care. "Fire up the torch, this baby's gonna burn! I Phinehas, guild critic extraordinaire condemn you and your blasphemous post!"
You don't offer anything but pure nastiness. You could be nice and offer to help clean it up. Or maybe offer a point or two on how the history could be more unique. But no, you are above that. But you're not above the flame fest upon which you gain your nourishment it appears.
Example of constructive criticism:
"Hey nice idea! The XXXXX has been done before in Planeshift. Perhaps your guild could YYYYY..."
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"Nice start. I did notice a few spelling errors though. '...the last for years we have...' should be 'the last four years...'"
And let's look at Mister Originality, shall we?
"They have been weighed, they have been measured, and they have been found wanting." hhhmmmm... I thinks maebee I's a beeen heard thas sum'werrs befor... A quote from a movie perhaps? Anyway, it's cliche to say the least.
Please, I grow tired of your inflamatory posts. Just stop! AND if you want to flame me, create a new thread, maybe Raedin Sucks! and post there, or do the right thing and PM me.
Raedin
P.S. Sorry Gondric for putting this in your post. I'd start a new one since this one is trashed.
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There are no inflamatory posts from Phinehas. Strangely there are many approaching that towards him. He has been around for a very long time and has a good sense of when guilds may be successful, and when they need improvement. Instead of expecting everyone to throw flowers in the forums here and talk with a smiley at the end of every sentence, prepare for some tough criticism when it comes to guild systems. His judgment is anything but shallow, and the only reason this thread can be approaching a "flamefest" as you put it is because you're starting one. When Aendar was an active moderator in this forum section, tough criticism was a given on any day.
Please chill out and use PMs if you are going to target a single person for your messages in the future. The only reason I'm leaving that post up here is because I know Phinehas isn't going to be offended in the slightest.
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the history is temporary plus i did it in a hurry thats why the spelling errors. ect.. im also 13 so err.. lay off me spellin. hehe
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/me wants the spell checker back!
I have to agree with Karyuu though. I have seen alot of Phinehas' posts and in some of them he does give constructive critisim.
Hes not all that bad :D
In other news, please leave this thread for guild information only, as i tis just getting silly now.
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i like silly hehe... but thats what the guild forums r for.
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Yeah, bu tthis should be a section for the guild, not for thier arguments.
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yeh thats why i put the remark. thats what guild forums r for...
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yeh thats why i put the remark. thats what guild forums r for...
Oh I thought you ment for arguing in :P I thought it seemed a bit strange :P
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Edited the history t oget rid of the attack since weve cancelled the war :(
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Edited the history t oget rid of the attack since weve cancelled the war :(
*sharp intake of breath*
Why?
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this is sux im sick :thumbdown: :(:(
Excessive smileys removed.
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the war was cancelled due to the other guilds problems. if i hadnt deleted it i wouldve had to write more and i didnt feel like it. remember its temporary. binool i ranked u to shut u up on our forums lol and uve been around long enuf to get it lol.
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the war was cancelled due to the other guilds problems. if i hadnt deleted it i wouldve had to write more and i didnt feel like it. remember its temporary. binool i ranked u to shut u up on our forums lol and uve been around long enuf to get it lol.
You sure thats a good idea? You may want him to learn how to type half decent first. Also, if you just complain lots you can get rank up?
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the war was cancelled due to the other guilds problems. if i hadnt deleted it i wouldve had to write more and i didnt feel like it. remember its temporary. binool i ranked u to shut u up on our forums lol and uve been around long enuf to get it lol.
You sure thats a good idea? You may want him to learn how to type half decent first. Also, if you just complain lots you can get rank up?
lol Croconil!!
I agree with you here, about the spelling part, AND on the part about being ranked up to just shut you up, in my opinon, i don't think thats very good way to conduct the guild.
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... i don't think thats very good way to conduct the guild.
Thats exactly my point.
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hahahahahahahaaaaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaa
You are acting quite immature, and this does not make you guys look very good. You don't treat fellow guild members this way.
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Nobody saw this coming. :whistling:
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Nobody saw this coming. :whistling:
Shh Phinehas :P
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Nobody saw this coming. :whistling:
*worship Phinehas*
The prophet! :P
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The behavior of each of your guild members represents the guild itself. With poor behavior, with posts that get deleted from this forum, you get a very poor reflection of the sort of quality you have. If you want good members, you have to weed out the bad. If you want to be a good guild (in terms of quality) then you have to make sure you maintain a strong image.
If one member acts like a five-year-old in public and you're actually promoting him, that tells everyone here a lot about the sort of guild you are running. What it tells me personally is that you are incapable of being a strong leader, nor having strong officers beneath you to help you out. If you are here to just goof around, this forum section isn't for you.
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The behavior of each of your guild members represents the guild itself. With poor behavior, with posts that get deleted from this forum, you get a very poor reflection of the sort of quality you have. If you want good members, you have to weed out the bad. If you want to be a good guild (in terms of quality) then you have to make sure you maintain a strong image.
If one member acts like a five-year-old in public and you're actually promoting him, that tells everyone here a lot about the sort of guild you are running. What it tells me personally is that you are incapable of being a strong leader, nor having strong officers beneath you to help you out. If you are here to just goof around, this forum section isn't for you.
Well said Karyuu. Gondric, I really feel you need a review of the guild. Such as, get more members that arn't noobs, get some officers etc.
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The behavior of each of your guild members represents the guild itself. With poor behavior, with posts that get deleted from this forum, you get a very poor reflection of the sort of quality you have. If you want good members, you have to weed out the bad. If you want to be a good guild (in terms of quality) then you have to make sure you maintain a strong image.
If one member acts like a five-year-old in public and you're actually promoting him, that tells everyone here a lot about the sort of guild you are running. What it tells me personally is that you are incapable of being a strong leader, nor having strong officers beneath you to help you out. If you are here to just goof around, this forum section isn't for you.
Well said Karyuu. Gondric, I really feel you need a review of the guild. Such as, get more members that arn't noobs, get some officers etc.
Careful, you'll get flamed for being negative. ;)
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good thing I'm not in any guilds then ^_^
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good thing I'm not in any guilds then ^_^
It would be a good thing, if the reason wasn't that no one would have you. :devil:
/me is getting off topic again. Oops.
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Careful, you'll get flamed for being negative. ;)
Dosen't bother me tbh. People that have enough time on thier hands to flame someone on a forum, needs a hobby.
It would be a good thing, if the reason wasn't that no one would have you. :devil:
/me is getting off topic again. Oops.
Haha. Evil Phinehas pops back out :P
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good thing I'm not in any guilds then ^_^
It would be a good thing, if the reason wasn't that no one would have you. :devil:
/me is getting off topic again. Oops.
aww, so cute when you're evil <3
I haven't actually asked to join any guilds, nor stated I was interested... I got an offer from a Kran I was talking to about roof running, Enlightened something'er other guild... nice guy
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The Enlightened?
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probably, anyway, starying off topic liek a train without tracks, so i'm going to go back to passing cookies around in #planeshift :3
PM for free hugs!
/me skips away happily
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ok lol.
binool has been in my guild since almost the start (i think) so he shouldve been off squire (newbie) rank. i am now only letting good players in to the guild. only in special curcumstances will i let a newbie in. suchas seproth.
Dont diss me spellin lol!
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Being a noob doesn't mean being a bad player, just inexperienced. Having maxed stats, knowing which rogue to camp and having tons of money don't make you a "good" player either.
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Being a noob doesn't mean being a bad player, just inexperienced. Having maxed stats, knowing which rogue to camp and having tons of money don't make you a "good" player either.
i have definitions of noobs and newbies :P what you are talking about is what i call a newbie...