Ummm nooo... first of all if people RP correctly it will work out nicelly if not then it's your fault. But no I was thinking more along the lines of a mass take over and wars and all that good stuff. Such as if you read the story you can see Bradd is able to control anyone and turn them into his slave ... but will people allow me to RP that ... no .. so you better give me some leeway.
We all know how hard it is to RP evil, and I would never make anyone be able to be unbeatable ... I give all my charecter limits. Such as Bradd being an alchemist he can only use alchemy 2 times in a week. Now if you call that ultimate power well then you need to rethink ... in no way am I saying an evil guild has to be unbeatable and god like. Ya sure they wil have powers but they have there limits as well. But you have to rmeember people don't alwyas RP accordinly .... If we could do that then we would have no problem with evil guilds. And you still need to give a bit of leeway because of this.
Well I see your point on that =^.^= ... though I never said there was only involved fighting. Alot of RP is going to go into this. I have been known to make alot of twists in my RPs. Also sorry if I didn't explain myself very clear earelier .. I have problems with writeing somthing then rereading it then editing and all that stuff trying to make my point clear .. no way to be mean.That's just funny. You can't be like that when explaining a guild idea. You have to be meticulous. You can't just post half-explained concepts and then get upset at people who didn't understand your point of view simply because you couldn't be bothered posting your ideas concisely in the first place.
But yes im a bit stubborn ... But i was just trying to make valid points on my part like the whole demon thing ... hehe when I was coming up with the ranks i didn't actaully think of it the way you did, since you thoult of it that way ... yaa sure i thoult about others will to .. but i just wanted to mention why in this case it would work. And i never whent into being personal about it and saying somone was bad RPer unlike some people who can't restrain themselves.
But ya I take all ideas into consideration .. though if somone sees somthing wrong I am going to correct them so they get a better idea of what im thinking ... I hope im making myself as clear as possible... cause at this point im about to say screw it i tryed and everyone treats me like dirt. I mean seems like my last idea of an all fenki guild was a good one ... so I do have more experience then you may think.Coming up with a half-decent idea for a guild does not qualify as experience. Implementation is the key here. Plus, and this is going to sound strange coming from me, you need to work on your social skills. The way you say things does not portray a particularly open or friendly individual. You appear to care about that.
To the post that was posted while i was posting lol ... Ya i was thinking about leaving them nameless and forgot to mention that, but ya that as well. Also and there not really demons im going to take that out .. cause the words just have the meaning of demon describing evil lol.Well, good. :thumbup:
Our objective is to create a persistent world in a fantasy setting, in which every player will create his character and will be able to live, explore, and interact with maximum realism.
demons in no way mean demonsThen I would suggest you stop referring to them until you've thought up a new name and description for what you're looking for. Also as a note, you don't need them to be mystical beings at all. In real life lots of people are cruel and "evil" without having some quasi-magical reason behind it.
Never judge a some one by there writeing as words do not have emotions.And I suggest you take your own advice as well. You are the one who got all emotional. I do not, as I'm sure people imagine, write my posts in a fury of righteous wrath. They are written, for the most part, in a calm, collected state of mind. What I said about you as a roleplayer was not an insult judged to make you feel bad, it was an observation based on what I have seen of you so far.
It's really not realistic to go around being evil. People don't choose to be evil, at least not smart people. They have goals, and those goals (insane or not) interfere with the lives of others who then deem them evil. You can't be evil because you say you are. You're evil when other people say you are (as moral belongs in the superego.) That should be the part of evil people should try to exploit.
Another evil guild?
There are no other evil guilds. There are ideas for them, but, no truly evil guilds that I have seen.
Evil characters, yes.
Firstly - it really makes no sense. Are you guys trying to get revenge? Fill the world with hate? Why? Your character doesn't have any hatred, it was just "given" to him, and he doesn't really have anything to hate.
Thats like saying people dont choose to be good. Who says people dont choose to be evil? Thats your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but you cant speak for other people. Maybe some characters just gain pleasure from causing harm to others. I agree that it looks more authentic and immersive if there's a solid backstory, but you cant say that people dont just want to be evil for the sake of it.
Many who have been marked as "evil" in our real world have been described by neighbours as "the polite quiet nice man who lived next door and never bothered anyone!!" "I can't believe HE would do something like that??"
"Maybe some characters just gain pleasure from causing harm to others." That is not the same as being evil. In medival times torturers worked for the king, and weren't seen as evil, since they punished the prisonners. I am referring to the definition of evil as something morally wrong. In order for something to be morally wrong it has to involve other people as moral standards depend on society. Therefore you can not be evil by yourself. Or you can, but then only to yourself.
This means there is no such thing as an evil character that has not be seen as evil by anyone. It means those characters are ridiculous, not evil.
So if you create a character/guild that has had no interaction with any society whatsoever and you yourself claim it to be evil, then you are wrong. You're whatever people think of you. If your guild for instance manages to wipe out obstacles for mine, I won't consider you evil.
Sangwa's right here, so you can all stop arguing with him.
Tssthorn, I think you're kind of in over your head. Do you really know what you're doing? This isn't criticism, I'm just wondering how much you're doing what you think is what you should be doing, and how much you're just doing what everyone tells you to do.
I've been in one guild. And it has outlived everyother of its time.
Prove it.I've been in one guild. And it has outlived everyother of its time.
There is at least one guild still around and active which has existed since before the Dark Empire, though in different forms.
??? Again I am not new and I am not in way over my head. I have been the leader of two guilds so far .... look I do not have to explain myself. I have been playing for nearley a year now ... I think I can handle this. "Let's all look at her post count and go by that to see if she is new" .... or maybe just cause of my name and you never seen it in PS. Maybe I don't go by the same name as I do on the fourms ... obviously.You're a very aggressive sort of person aren't you? You really get quite hot under the collar when criticised. I could exploit this and receive great pleasure, but I'll work on restraining yourself.
Haha, if you read it carefuly, it is saying you need good leadership and you must be good at roleplaying. It's just a nice way of saying you will have to become a good roleplayer and leader. That was what Phinehas meant when he said he wasn't sure you were any of those.
Suggestions. You like demons? There are demonic-like things in PS too. Laanx (http://www.planeshift.it/setting_history.html) has turned into an unkind god, surrounded by twisted forces of lemurs and other strange beings in Kadaikos. Your character could have had some sort of interaction with some of those and felt attracted to them and their hatred towards Hydlaa, the city Talad created. The goal would then be to disrupt the city's wellfare while finding a way through the labyrinths, to reach the Kadaidos.
You would need to keep in mind that your guild members, if easily recognized would be given pursuit by the authorities of hydlaa.
You would get a great background story this way, which would take advantage of the setting. The roleplay action deriving from it would surely be alot more rewarding to everyone in planeshift.
You can aslo check my Guild Creation Guide (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25859.0) for some general suggestions in the different steps of guild creation.
Suggestions. You like demons? There are demonic-like things in PS too. Laanx (http://www.planeshift.it/setting_history.html) has turned into an unkind god, surrounded by twisted forces of lemurs and other strange beings in Kadaikos.Watch yourself with my race. I don't like being called a demon. :P
Also Phinehas if you say one more personal remark about my roleplaying or guild leadership I will just completly ignore you and just skip over your posts.
*Phinehas puts one hand to his brow and prepares to be a drama queen.*Coming from you that's rich. After you blow up at Sangwa, who is probably the single most polite person in all of PS I have no respect for anything that you say about other people needing to control their emotions. Show some control over yours and we'll talk. As for my posts, my whole point was that for a guild to be good it has to have a good leader. I don't think you'd make one. After all you've done to try to convince me otherwise, I'm still unconvinced. Just my opinion. Don't get all overheated about it, just prove me wrong.
Oh gasp! Oh horror! Oh woe is me!
suriously some of you need to grow up.
Prove it.I've been in one guild. And it has outlived everyother of its time.
There is at least one guild still around and active which has existed since before the Dark Empire, though in different forms.
Shoulda known it, some secret guild. Oh well, secrete all you like.Prove it.I've been in one guild. And it has outlived everyother of its time.
There is at least one guild still around and active which has existed since before the Dark Empire, though in different forms.
No, that's esoteric knowledge and in-game lore. It's better to find out such things for a reason or not at all.
As far as your other comment, I am very qualified to be a guild leader. I've been offered such a position a number of times in fact. But I've turned it down each time though because it's not who my character is.It was directed towards Tssthorn.
Shoulda known it, some secret guild. Oh well, secrete all you like.
It was directed towards Tssthorn.
I was? Strange. You said that you'd been in ten guilds but still weren't sure you'd make a good guild leader. I used that to point out that simply having been around or having been in guilds doesn't necessarily qualify you to be a good guild leader, as you pointed out. Sorry if I missed something somewhere.It was directed towards Tssthorn.
But you were using a misinterpretation of something I had said.
I'm not.Shoulda known it, some secret guild. Oh well, secrete all you like.
Something like that, but not. I wouldn't worry about it.
First off quote me where i fliped out ... I never fliped out .... your just imagining things ... must be the way I type ...I hope so.
Also not going to name any names phinehas .. but I found out some stuff about you ... and I heard you seem to always cause problems.Is this where I'm supposed to rant and rave against whoever said that thereby proving to you that your suspicions that I'm emotionally and mentally unstable are right, enabling you to ignore everything I've said? Sorry, fact is, I don't really care. Chances are, whoever said it is not someone who knows me well, they just see me criticizing guilds left and right and assume that I'm a jerk. If you asked people who knew me I'm sure you'd get a different story.
Yeah, I guess I'm contradicting myself.Could I ask for a brief statement of your stance in this discussion, for clarification's sake?
Yeah, I guess I'm contradicting myself.Could I ask for a brief statement of your stance in this discussion, for clarification's sake?
I take it back. I don't want to know. :P :DYeah, I guess I'm contradicting myself.Could I ask for a brief statement of your stance in this discussion, for clarification's sake?
If he has an idea for a guild, I think he should go for it and see what happens. If it takes off, then that's great.
Also that comment is kinda like the type of comment where somone says somthing about there mothers and they say they are dead. You don't really know anything about my life .. so while it may not be so surious to you .. it can be taken surious by another. That's why I am just saying just be carful what you say ... you never know who it could be or how they may react.Frankly, I'm fairly careful about what I say. I mean, according to your argument(and this is exaggeration I realize) if I met a new guy at my job and said, "Hey there, you new?" and they burst into tears and ran off because they'd been trying so hard to not look like a new guy then it would be my fault. I know everyone can't be the same, but I strongly suggest that you ignore what people say if you find it insulting personally. I mean, who cares what they think? Even if someone on this forum told me that I seem like a geek with no friends, girlfriend, or social life in general, I'd ignore it, no matter how close to home that might strike. ;)