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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: bilbous on October 08, 2006, 07:06:26 am
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I envision this thread as a place to post character names that seem to break the naming rules and the reason we think they are unfit.
I will not out anyone here at this time as this thread may be deemed unacceptable. Delete if necessary.
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If you see a name that you feel needs correcting, just make a petition in-game. I fear this thread may take on a haughty/insulting tone in time, and it won't serve much purpose except to point and laugh at mistakes. If you're unsure of some names and want to start a discussion on that, start away :> Otherwise though petitions are preferred.
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14 petitions of names that are clearly breaking the naming policy submitted today alone :], 6 have been answered this morning, the rest I have submitted later this afternoon and evening, I see at least 5 a day when pottering about ^_^
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14 petitions of names that are clearly breaking the naming policy submitted today alone :], 6 have been answered this morning, the rest I have submitted later this afternoon and evening, I see at least 5 a day when pottering about ^_^
That was my doing :D And btw, I felt spammed lol
Anyway, there seems to be an infusion of "I-didn't-read-te-players-policy" people lately but we are dealing with it the best we can ;) Keep up the good work in sending petitions about those names.
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I was told the other day that last names don't fall under the naming policy... i was very doubtful of that but still unsure, is it true?
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Syilph:
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Narure: Last names have a bit more leniency, like adjectives are allowed, but nothing crazy.
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I was told the other day that last names don't fall under the naming policy... i was very doubtful of that but still unsure, is it true?
We alow some exceptions for last names, and even the random name generator would "generate" names like "Stronghand" "Hammerweilder" and such if poked enough.
@Karyuu: OMG! OMG! OMG! That is awsome \o/ Feel the power of a graphic tablet! XD And the power of tha' hamma'! Lots and lots of <3 :) :flowers:
Edit: I'm soooo going to add that to my sig, if that's ok with you :D
Edit2: By the gods! I just checked and I changed over 40 names the last couple of days. That's a small army! We must add a Players Policy quiz at account creation.
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When petitioning, don't hesitate to give details.
I have seen some "rename xxx" petitions but with no clue on the reason this name could be bad...
Sometimes, a web search showed me what was wrong with it. But when it's a phonetic reading, slang, a sentence in a foreign language that you feel unfitting with the PS world...say it.
So, it's better to petition "the name xxx needs to be changed because ..."
After submiting your petition, read it to ensure nothing was lost. Some punctuation characters are truncating the petition text.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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every single name i submitted was blatantly obvious, if i come across a more awkward name then I will point out reasons and hints as to why it's unsuitable.
I'm not unfamiliar to this process you know ¬_¬
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A name is the only thing a player really owns.
Many are named for something that they love, and every single person that they know in the game, is attached to them by that name only, and nothing else.
To change a name is a very serious and extreme thing to do.
Not just emotionallly, but it can also severely cripple relationships with other players.
Basic Courtesy:
If the name is pushing a product for sale, a sex act, an obscenity, or is the name of a person as famous as Harry Potter or Bill Clinton, it is a problem.
But just because you recognize it, or can find it iin google, does not mean it needs to go.
Names are problems, only when they interfere with play.
And if a name really bothers you, then say so.
But unless it does, leave it alone.[/list]
~Verrliit~
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No, Planeshift is not a game where you can name your character something you like.
Planeshift tries to create a world which could be real.
It's like this:
You are born into this world as a simple peasant.
Your parents then give you a name.
That simple process excludes names like
-Cookie Behemoth
-Sir Laughalot
-Hellson
Above names aren't 1) pushing a product for sale 2) sex related 3) obscene 4) famous
But they are still stupid :)
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What about phrases with the words spelled backwords to hide their meaning? ... annoying. Some characters are rarely seen as well such as my Ikyiky Ptang, strictly speaking, unacceptable I believe. Does the character have to be online to have a name change?
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yeah, I'll keep in mind that next time i point out that 'Alexisthebest' needs a rename I'm killing him inside ...
Bilbous, no the name can be changed offline aswell.
the way i see it is, as long as they aren't blatantly obvious, you'd have to have a sharp eye to pick up on some wandering around thesedays
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Don't look for those with really bad nor stupid names. If they just want to test PS, they will leave soon enough before they annoy anyone or they will create a character to whom people will want to talk to.
But when you happen to cross the path of someone with a name that makes you think he his not a PS char but a cookie brand, a movie char, desc,... just ignore him and petition so he will recieve a name fitting for roleplayed conversations.
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hmm, no, I think I'll report any unsuitable name I come across, they should all be changed and banned from re use no matter what way they break the policy
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well I didn't like Hard Core or rather Drah Eroc. And it wasn't just because he was running around 1 timing 5 different glads although that seemed a little excessive.
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i saw a Florist Gump the other day, would petition but im tno sure if it was already taken care of :oops:
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There is something to remember with names. Not everybody playing the game is fluent in English and they might not know that their name has a meaning in the English language. The same is valid for any other languages where the name might be havining a meaning. I have seen several names that have a meaning in my language, but how could they know about it.
After the obvious spam like "Iamthegod" is renamed, it should be looked at the intention of the player. If they had no intentions to break the rules and the name is not ruining the gaming experience of other players, I think there is no reason to change it.
PS. Drah Eroc is intentional and should be changed.
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Then there is Elric's lesser known half-brother Irkoon Melnibone although there probably should have been an "of" in the name and an accent on the final "e". I wonder how Michael Moorcock would feel if he knew how far afield his characters have wandered. Perhaps he would be gratified. Haven't seen him in a while, perhaps he has been changed.
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then how about sunflower
if people are of different languages and dont know what theyre name means then why change names at all
its jsut confusing to me, and i dont like to make petitions about it but if im suppossed to how am i gonna know if they arent aware of the meaning without asking them?
i dunnos
i guess this is jsut a little silly
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I don't see how "Drah Eroc" is wrong. Yeah, you can read it backwards, big deal. Maybe I should play with a mirror opposite the screen from now on but up until it was mentioned in this thread i hadn't noticed that hidden meaning and I've never seen that name be an issue for any RP and that should be what should determine a name change after all, right? If it has gone unnoticed for so long (despite his posts in this forum and the logs where we can find his name) it should be because it doesn't cause any actual trouble.
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uhm yeah, i didnt notice drah eroc as being "hard core" either
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Backwards names are left alone unless they're vulgar/offensive/insulting/really obvious. So 'Drah Eroc' is fine. If you're reading a name backwards to look for hidden meanings (as opposed to seeing one immediately), you either have too much time on your hands or just need some reason to complain.
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hmm I don't know. It's not like I am looking for things like that but sometimes I do notice it and then it can get annoying. And perhaps it's only a little thing but when it does get under my skin it does ruin my RP experience when I see such a name.
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Maybe it is because I have a touch of dislexia that I notice these things and perhaps it is because when I was much younger I practiced reading upside down as well as backwards. I wasn't really looking for this when I saw it, it was his selfish behaviour that etched Erocs name in mind. I'm not saying he was breaking any rules at the time but he did attract my attention negatively. I figure it is better to mock crummy names than to report them generally but perhaps that is a character flaw in me. My names are not all that great either.
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isnt drah eroc part of the outlaws
i think its almost necessary to be semi rude and annoying and occasionally arrogant in his guild
though i have a certain fondness for it :D
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I believe he is ... but how would I know that unless he told me ;)
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what do you mean? told you he was in the outlaws? or what the outlaws were like?
i thought you could always rp knowing the guild because of a guild badge or marking
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i thought you could always rp knowing the guild because of a guild badge or marking
Unless they were a secret guild, that the members didn't want to let Outsiders know they were part of it. But if it was that case, then you would make the guild secret to hide it from showing.
Or maybe if a member of a guild is under cover. So they hide thier guild marking/badge from site.
The way I RP it, is I take a look at thier description. If it states in thier that they have on a guild badge/marking whatever, then my character knows they are in said guild. If no mention to this, then he doesn't know. Unless they are famous, like Karyuu. Then even if they have never met, my character still knows, through word of mouth from other players. Reputation preceding ones self so to say.
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I believe he is ... but how would I know that unless he told me ;)
This was something of a joke, playing on the discussion of a name which my character wouldn't have known either, thus the wink.
Around here "the Outlaws" seldom wore their patches lest they draw unwanted attention from the police or the Hell's Angels. When they were out in force and wanted to make a statement was a different story. I believe the Hell's Angels finally absorbed them.
This is getting a little off topic.
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cookie behemoth... good one thomphoenix :P
what about
sutpid dragon
dubm joe
nuck chorris
houseroundkick
Msiter T
dlanod kcud
iliek pie
irdam kittens
note: if you want to know why these names are inappropriate ask ;)
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I KNEW my name was going to come up in this thread... ah well. :whistling:
I sat down 6-7 months ago.. thought.. I know.. I'll try out a free MMORPG... and when it came to char generation... I hadn't looked at the rules in detail.. and just rushed it, eagerly wanting to see what the game was like - hoping at least that the name I'd made wouldn't be too obvious. - Yes the name had a hidden meaning OOC but it was still quite a viable name for the setting/environment of the game itself.
I don't mind a surname change though.. if my name upset or offends anyone. -- However.. I would like to keep the 'Drah' persona - just because I'm known to a few people at least .. and there's a trail of RP posts, forum identities, whos-online scripts, etc. that are all linked in with that name imparticular.
As for my running rampant around the arena (particularly between the gladiators), my char has a couple of valid reasons (besides his obvious greed). But I can't really divulge too much info there. ;)
And talking of annoyance/irritation.. I should probably also admit that I run up to people camping on spawn points and initiate an attack before they do (not too often though)... I do it once.. and then tend to leave that person alone for at least 5-10 mins. To my knowledge this is within the rules as the monster/gladiator/rogue/etc still has 100% energy when I start to attack and so technically... not a steal. - But if anyone knows otherwise.. please correct me.
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I don't think you have to worry about this too much as Karyuu said
Backwards names are left alone unless they're vulgar/offensive/insulting/really obvious.
I did start this thread with you in mind as I was a little miffed at you beating me to all the gladiolas and me not getting an attack in even just standing and waiting for the guy to spawn. I beat you to the punch once but was "not close enough to attack" and by the time I moved closer you had killed it already. I just don't have the reflexes of you young whippersnappers. As you can see though there are more than enough bad names to make fun of and you are not being singled out. I even have a 'funky' named Freckles on one account.
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I didn't even see that Drah Eroc was a backwards name until you pointed it out. There are many more blatant name violations in my opinion, leave poor Drah alone. :woot:
How did this become a thread anyway? I thought we were supposed to use "petition" when we found improper names.
Araye
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I started this thread. It may be redundant due to the http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21538.0 Players Policy thread but does it really hurt to add visibility to various aspects of said policy? It is true that petition is the appropriate means of dealing with bad character names but this thread can be used to explore where the grey areas are and to point out in more detail why names can be objectionable.
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AFAIK, this thread is is because of doubt which names are proper and which aren't in general. IMHO the naming policy is sometimes annoying to deatch, because of all the names from all different languages which may mean somethink. Afterall in real, different nations, from all over the world, has different traditions. Indians for example, they used to have names like "Blowing Wind". Only such names need a proper cultre also, i gues. So if ever, i would see these names at nomadic peoples, so maybe enkidukai and dermorian.
We have many different names in PS, some names sounds wrong to one group of peopl, and some names are wrong to others. there are te hardest to decide. I believe we should try to make our names, basing and where from our char came from, so if a GM will want to change it, you can provide realistic explanation. I see one thing which would limit me. The amount of setting known to me. My char name is rather normal and sometimes i wonder what if i knew more about the setting when i was making my char.
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If anyone has questions regarding certain names, please post them so that we can form a discussion and share opinions. Otherwise please avoid posting "lists" of names you either dislike or think break the policy.
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A name is the only thing a player really owns.
It is a minor part of what the player really owns. The majority is the character. I'm not talking about stats, I'm talking about background, personality and the RP that that character participated in. That is the treasure of a RPer, not a name.
Just imagine that you would delete your character and create a new, different one, but using the same name. Would the name have any meaning at all? Obviously not.
Many are named for something that they love
And that justifies exactly what? If anything, it means that people are unable to see the difference between a forum login and an RP character, but it clearly doesn't mean the name somehow becomes acceptable just because they like it. That's very similar to the non-argument of "In every game, I am called "1337pwnz0r", so obviously in PS I can be called that, too, no?".
and every single person that they know in the game, is attached to them by that name only, and nothing else.
To change a name is a very serious and extreme thing to do.
Not just emotionallly, but it can also severely cripple relationships with other players.
On another thread I posted the following, which fits neatly here:
Regarding the players being very protective about their identities: I think that that is fully understandable, and fully acceptable. The name you have represents you. It is all that distinguishes you from everyone else at a simple glance. So the name "is" you.
This must, however, not be mistaken as an argument for allowing unsuited names. It is not. An unsuited name is chosen and changed way before you ever get known, hence that name is not your identity yet. The identity comes as you interact with the other players. (Example name used for likelyhood of being known) When the forum software received the confirmation for registration of the name "Karyuu", it was nothing but one out of a bazillion people who have created a board account on that system. It could just as easily have been any other name, or changed into something else. Only with interaction comes identity. "One makes a name for oneself" does not refer to the keying in of some letters, it refers to linking a combination of letters, which by itself is meaningless, to an individual, a personality, an identity.
A case that likely is recalled by some is the transition of "FESFES" to "Efflixi Aduro" (and all the others who did similar things). Leaving all name quality and other issues aside, this one shows pretty well how meaningless the actual name is, provided it is reasonably dissimilar to other names. Works just like the association of an alt with a main char's player.
Therefore, a namechange, even after already having gotten well-known within the community, has almost neglegible effects.
Additionally, unintentionally choosing a bad name cannot mean that it doesn't need to be changed. First, how can one be sure that the intent truly wasn't there? Players can, and do, lie, especially when trying to get away with things they intentionally did. Second, even if that was possible, it wouldn't help the situation at all. So someone had never, ever heard of, say, Hitler, and named their char "Hitler", because of the sound or whatever. Clearly the intent wasn't there, but does that mean that it has any less effect on the other players? Obviously, the very same effect is still created. Even if it was possible to make sure that every player that gets to see that name knows that the intent was different, they would still be reminded of the particular Hitler who made that name an insult.
Therefore, clearly, intent can only mean the difference between a ban or a mere namechange, never can it result in no namechange.
But just because you recognize it, or can find it iin google, does not mean it needs to go.
That's why the naming policy says popular culture. Clearly, something that appears in some book that has sold 20 copies doesn't constitute "popular culture". However, just because you don't know of the name, that doesn't automatically mean that it's not popular culture, as it may easily come from a subculture that you don't interact with (might be or have been a football player or whatnot, provided that you aren't into football). If something even has an entry on wikipedia, or generates 100+ hits on google (all referring to the same thing, obviously) then that's a pretty good sign of "popular culture" FAICT.
And if a name really bothers you, then say so.
If a name really bothers me, I /petition it, because asking people, even extra-nicely, gets you a "I might if I ever feel like it", at best, and most often a "Are you a GM? No? Thoght so, so shut up!". And I might say that this refers to not only names, and if it were different, there'd be no need for GMs.
hmm, no, I think I'll report any unsuitable name I come across, they should all be changed and banned from re use no matter what way they break the policy
Indeed. It is impossible to know for how long that character will remain active in PS, and also is it not certain that it will ever be spotted by a GM, or at least it may be quite a while. And the longer it goes undetected, the more (IMNSHO completely unwarranted) whining will come from the player when it gets changed, so better be as swift as possible.
perhaps it is because when I was much younger I practiced reading upside down as well as backwards. I wasn't really looking for this when I saw it,
I was already beginning to wonder if except myself only those who reverse their names are able to spot them. I'm hardly looking for reversed meanings, but often it smashes me in the face the first time seeing the name, and many other times they have a very distinct ring to them. Drah Eroc, for example, would have triggered a reversal with me, maybe not the first or second time I see it, but eventually. AFAIR it happens with annoying and likable players alike, at least for me. And it has happened several times, and it's very disappointing, and once it's happened, it's hard to ignore.
I did start this thread with you in mind as I was a little miffed at you beating me to all the gladiolas and me not getting an attack in even just standing and waiting for the guy to spawn.
As for my running rampant around the arena (particularly between the gladiators), my char has a couple of valid reasons (besides his obvious greed). But I can't really divulge too much info there. ;)
And talking of annoyance/irritation.. I should probably also admit that I run up to people camping on spawn points and initiate an attack before they do (not too often though)... I do it once.. and then tend to leave that person alone for at least 5-10 mins. To my knowledge this is within the rules as the monster/gladiator/rogue/etc still has 100% energy when I start to attack and so technically... not a steal. - But if anyone knows otherwise.. please correct me.
You are quite right. Technically it isn't stealing. The player policy even explicitely says so. However, to me, it still borders very close on bug exploitation, because it essentially is the imperfections of the game mechanics, which aren't intended to exist, but do due to technical limitations, that you use to your advantage.
Some people claim that this is valid RP. I wholeheartedly disagree, and the reason is bilbous's quote above. Imagine his char being an exact copy of yours. Then, even if we were to accept the fighting system and the ingame stats as RP, he would necessarily have a precisely 50% chance of getting the first hit. But he doesn't, not even close. The reason is obvious: RL differences, something that must never have any impact in RP. Maybe his computer is slower? His internet connection is slower, less stable or his location is further from the server than yours? Maybe he is just not as well accustomed to the I/O devices of a computer as you are, or hasn't fine-tuned his set-up for one-click killing? Then there's a wide range of differences between human beings that make for even more complications here. So obviously none of that is part of his character, but you force it into PS nontheless. So while it is technically not stealing and in full accordance with the rules, it is still as OOC as it can ever get, and an exploit, and therefore morally wrong, and also against the spirit of the player policy.
Regarding the first paragraph of your quote: be sure to reevaluate if you are really RPing, and not just using RPing a greedy character as a cop-out for OOC greed, as is so very common. Realistically, there is no place where you can just stand and wait, then an animal appears out of thin air, waiting for someone to slay it, then another one, exactly like the previous, and so on, for all eternity. This, too, is merely game mechanics. If this was a real arena, there would be some way of maintaining a queue of who gets to fight when. The rules say that noone owns a spawn. That is, I think, a hint at exactly this: you are expected to share, and it should not be required for anyone to write scripts just to get to fight one out of five rogues. IC greed can justify only so much, OOC fairness and courtesy are still paramount.
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Seytra, my dear,
Those who know our names, who welcome us, and play...
They are the most precious thing in PS.
Change names, lose friends.
Not trivial.
~Verrliit~
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A name isn't likely to be changed if you have been playing for 20+ hours. In ~20 hours of gameplay, you're not going to be turning into Mister Popularity, so a change isn't going to destroy your every connection in the world. It's also very easy to come up to people you've met before and update them. Don't exaggerate.
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Verrliit, my dear,
<snip unwarranted poetry>
Change names, lose friends.
Not trivial.
Oddly, I've had lots of occasions where I got a /tell from someone I've never talked to, and it was explaining that it was an alt of someone whom I knew very well. Even more surprisingly, I had little trouble associating that alternate name with the already known player. The fact that if that alt gets played only once or twice this memory might fade doesn't apply to when a name of an active char is changed, as that will naturally occur endlessly more often.
So, as I said, neglegible effects, and trivial in practice.
Regarding the 20+ hours: I sincerely hope that that refers to the chance of the name not having spotted yet, and not some sort of "If you manage to stay undetected for 20 hours, you're granted permission". It still is my opinion that any and all names should be changed regardless of ingame age or player position (GM, dev, whatever).
There may be a justifiable case for the legacy names that still plague PS (those that were created before the naming policy was in place, i.e., in MB), but even with these I think that the courtesy period has by far expired and that they need to be treated equally as any other player.
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Regarding the 20+ hours: I sincerely hope that that refers to the chance of the name not having spotted yet, and not some sort of "If you manage to stay undetected for 20 hours, you're granted permission".
Basically if you've been in-game for 20-something hours, there's a very good chance that your name isn't going to be changed because it's been GM-approved. This isn't definite of course - we don't speak all languages and so we could get a report that some character's name is really offensive in one language, and none of us has realized this. So regardless of how much that player has been online and how many friends that person made, that name is gone as soon as that offensive word is verified. But GMs check petitions and the in-game character list rather often, so a bad name isn't likely to be undetected for 20 play-time hours.
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except for that first 20 hours a GM might not have gone ingame ; )
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Luckily we have 5+ active GMs that check petitions daily ;)
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I've only seen Syilph online, oh, and Tarel a couple times, but thats not often I guess I must be on the opposite schedule to these active GM's nowadays..
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AFAIK, GMs tend to be invisible most of the time these days.
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It also wouldn't suprise me thatthey have alt characters on the gm accounts that are not marked as GM but still have access to the same information with a policy that any action taken must be with the marked character.
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GM's come up as online on the who list and on the buddy list when they are online, invisible or not, they may have alts on their GM account but then that would go against the point of people being familiar with who was doing what, and near impossible for someone to contact the GM that was working with thim if a problem arises
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Of course in a perfect PS-World, there would be online GMs 24/7. But well, it's not a perfect PS-World yet.
So, here is a reminder of the possible ways to solve an ingame problem when /who doesn't return any GM and when the online ones are busy/AFK:
If you can keep playing knowing a problem exists, /petition it. Even when not ingame, we have access to petitions.
If you can't actualy play (crashing due to a bad position ingame) you can jump to IRC on freenode and poke the voiced pple in #planeshift-gmtalk
This thread being about bad names you see unchanged ingame, /petition is the best way.
It allows you to keep playing without having to hear the too well known "I do what I want. You're not a GM."
it's even good to use a petition when there is one or more ingame GM. Why? Because not all GMs can change names. Because the GM can be online dealing with other issues. It takes time for a GM to change a name when he can contact the player.
Even for obviously bad names we seen before they are petitioned, we wheck to see if the player is online. Thus, we can explain what was wrong and ensure he won't create another one with an even worse name.
When you make a petition, when we change the name you reported, we will also try to contact you. So you know if the name was changed or not. And at least GMs will thank you for helping the PS immersive feeling (no, there is no bounty for reporting bad names :) Your reward is to play without seeing stupid names all around).
And yes, GMs can have RPing char they play. Those chars are unaware about what the GM can know about people, but nonetheless such a char won't ignore bad behaviours he sees ingame. And the RP char doesn't always need to write a petition for the GM to deal with next time he connects :)
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last time I did the ol' name changing routine it didnt take long at all, even talking to the player, perhaps you;re a bit rusty xP
and im going to be mean now and say the following;
I haven't been thanked for the names i've reported, let alone the names I'd changed
I haven't gotten my 'reward' because theres always more names running about, though I'm not expecting a reward anyway.
it's not all peaches and cream, don't try to put it out as that... and i'm done with this topic ^^
Language.
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I haven't been thanked for the names i've reported, let alone the names I'd changed
Honestly, I don't usually expect to be contacted by the GMs, at least not if a submitted name was changed. They've got sufficient other things to do than to (IMO unnecessarily) thank everyone who submits a name. If a conversation with a GM arises and ends up in a "thanks", that is fine. It's my policy to not /tell GMs or devs unless it's at least somewhat urgent, even less should one expect to be contacted unless necessary.
I haven't gotten my 'reward' because theres always more names running about, though I'm not expecting a reward anyway.
Well, I, for one, have gotten my reward. Each time I look at the player list, I see that the vast majority of names is throughly acceptable, a few aguably acceptable, and only a handful are unacceptable. Now, if I look at any other MMO"RP"G, the percentage of unacceptable names that show up in the viewport ingame exceed these at any time. (IOW, even though one sees only about 20 characters, there are more inappropriate names in immediate view than in the entirety of PS.)
Granted, there still are some names ingame that seemingly are GM-approved while I'd have changed them on the spot, but overall our collaborative effort definitely pays off. I'm inclined to say that RP-supportive GMs from other MMO"RP"Gs would be envious of PS.
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GM's come up as online on the who list and on the buddy list when they are online, invisible or not, they may have alts on their GM account but then that would go against the point of people being familiar with who was doing what ........
Ummmmm ..... No. Gm's have only the one Gm character. We have no reason to have two or three or four. Gm's do not roleplay or play the game. We are there to help people so there is no need for more then one identity. I myself have the character "Zorbels" if I want to go into game and roleplay. If I see someone breaking the rules I will not use zorbels, I will log off and log back on with Akaye.
I haven't been thanked for the names i've reported, let alone the names I'd changed
I haven't gotten my 'reward' because theres always more names running about, though I'm not expecting a reward anyway.
Sometimes we Gm's get thanked and other times we get quite the opposite. Thanks Kezzik for reporting names. Also bear in mind there a many other players who do the same as you. To give a "reward" to each would be very difficult I would think. I mean keeping track of them all would be hard enough, but then what exactly would you want for a reward? It isn't very difficult to type a few names you see into a petition and have us Gm's change them ..... it is however much harder to be the gm changing the names and dealing with the players. So who really should be getting the thank yous here? ;)
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*sigh* you talk to me as if I don't know this process, but I presume you would not knowing who I am.
gm's sometimes need to create another gm character that is outside the Game master guild to go undetected to catch bad players in the act, you see, in the past somep layers have added every gm to their buddy list and stopepd their disruprtive behaviour, even logged out at the first hint of a GM logging in, the lats are there to catch them unaware, it's been done, I've done it. I never once claimed that peopel would use their IC's to GM.
I never claimed to want a physical reward, dimply stated the fact that the 'reward' that Hadfael claimed players get (being able to play withotu seeing stupid names) is a near impossible feat.
by now you might be able to guess who I am by my ferocity towards renaming and the naming policy hmm?
of which brings me to my final point, it is in no way difficult for a GM to interact with a character, of whom has an unsuitable name, and then with suggestions, or sometimes not, change it, this too I have most likely done a hudnred fold more times then some other GM's, not saying that the GM's dont work, this was just my most avid part of my job.
I know what it's like on both ends of the stick, neither side rarely get a thank you to be honest, to the players, its hard to thank everyone, because there is simply so many, to the GM's you hardly notice the thanks you's, because theres always those people who complain that have a louder voice
if you have trouble dealing with the income of unsuitable names perhaps you should ask 'the boss' to reconsider retaking up that ex-GM he recently rejected. I won't say the terms for which he did, though I don't see why this was the reason, as anything to do with such reasons have to be throoughly 'checked' and 'agreed' upon by theboss himself before they can go into action, or so I've heard, the GM's have and always will be there for the OOC nasty jobs and once in a while pull together a nice RP event, i just find it a shame that I can no longer do somethitng I enjoyed doing and was good at doing because of something i 'lack' yet i do not have any trouble dealign with.
think i'm about done on that... toodles
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if you have trouble dealing with the income of unsuitable names perhaps you should ask 'the boss' to reconsider retaking up that ex-GM he recently rejected.
Sounds to me like your post answering mine was an excuse to vent. No I have no clue who you are and who you are doesn't matter. I don't claim it is diffcult to change a name. I am however saying the player that you are changing the name to maybe and CAN be difficult about it. You also implied you never got a thank you. Well I thanked you for your efforts, so that should help you feel appreciated some what right? I am not sure why you weren't accepted back as a Gm, but I am sure the "big boss" had his reasons and that being said if you are truly bugged by it I think talking with him about it would be better then bringing it up in a thread to people who have no clue about the situation.
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it is however much harder to be the gm changing the names and dealing with the players.
uhuu...~
ooh I'm picking stuff out now heh..
anyway, If ;'taking it up' with the big boss would actually get anythign done about it I would have but it's pretty much pointless anyway, and I only brought the point up in the thread in reply to your previous statement towards me, and besides, pepopel may be clueless about the situation, just as some are clueless about the naming policy and other such things, yet they discuss them. i've said i'll stop twice now but i've come back again to post >< to fun to debate.. now i really have to go, that or i'm serving charcoal for dinner :S
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/me waves
Have a good dinner. There isn't really much more to say anyway.
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other then "waffley!"
/me coughs and runs off
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I was someone with the username "sexylady," instant petition.
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*ahem*
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/_zanz/meteor.jpg)
I try to help, I really do.
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other then "waffley!"
/me coughs and runs off
/me playfully throws a waffley at Kezzik
Darn it! I'll get you next time you fast little bugger. :P
@Zanzibar: Ha ha ha sucker! Oh I mean ... that wasn't nice ... :o ;D
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I saw a noobtastic the other day as well.. hmm not too many other stupid names :P
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/me playfully throws a waffley at Kezzik
Darn it! I'll get you next time you fast little bugger. :P
Aie!
/me dodges waffleys
no you won't! I'm the fastesterernerer!
/me flaps his sleeves down and adjusts his hood, then runs away
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I've seen bad but never this bad. There is a guy on right now called Eatmys**t :ban:
Too bad there are no GMs on right now. Oh well. Can't be here all the time, eh?
Edit: Petition made! :)
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I've seen bad but never this bad. There is a guy on right now called Eatmys**t :ban:
Too bad there are no GMs on right now. Oh well. Can't be here all the time, eh?
Edit: Petition made! :)
I've seen
sexywoman
attackerguy
fisherman
dumbrock(or something)