| Hello, and welcome to The Crooks Official Thread A new guild based on the very thing the good, hard-working people of Hydlaa fears. No, we are not really about spreading terror and chaos in the Hydlaa community, on the contrary, we work very secretively without being noticed. Our goal is to control all of Hydlaa's economy at any costs (buying people off, or even using force if needed). Our people will be everywhere, have hands in every aspect of people's lives, way up to the highest positions in Hydlaa's Government, we will always have the upper hand in everything! The guild is currently accepting all races. The Guild Ranks will be as follows: (in ascending order) An Apprentice - most likely a newbie, so he/she will not have to take orders from anyone, instead he/she will be roaming around Hydlaa looking for good chances to rank up. A Lock Picker - Is somewhat trained, and would still take no orders from anyone, but is given the chance to either become a Bully or a Burglar, both requires certain skills that will be discussed later. A Burglar - Comes naturally after being a lock picker, he's a more experienced member of the guild and will start to take direct commands from Gang Leaders and Members. A Bully - Should be good at fighting to a certain extent. He takes orders directly from Gang Leaders. A Gang Member - Is someone who is experienced enough to become a Gang Leader assistant they take orders from Gang Leaders and are privileged in the sort of tasks they are asked to do. Should be well experienced. A Gang Leader - He does the Politicians dirty work, and he has a direct authority on all the former ranks. also, when the guild becomes big enough, every Gang Leader will get to choose a number of followers that will be considered his OWN gang (no other Gang Leader will have any kind of authority on them) - and every gang will has its own name. He also nominates Gang Members for gangs leadership. A Politician - Our representatives in the government, they buy people's votes, bribe local guards, and send threats to opposing parties - although they work separately, they will usually take orders directly from me. | (http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6786/thecrooksee2.png) |
I don't see any difference between this post and the previous one. How is it "updated" if both guild descriptions are identical?
The way to make everybody happy would be to make a guild that is consistant with the settings and not something thats ment to be humourous.
That is just silly. Heaven forbid someone wants to add a little humour into thier RP.
I dont see the point of another 'cookie cutter' guild, there are enough of them already. The Crooks are not going to try and join the almighty DE, so stop trying to make it fit into the guidelines of it. They are trying to have a little fun, just because it isnt your idea of fun, dosent make it wrong. Lighten up people.
People will think you are jsut a bunch of mental peasents with strange asperations.
If I am understanding Munkii correctly, that is the point, sillyness and a laugh or two
Noone will veiw your guild in the way that you describe it though and you will never hold power.
Noone will veiw your guild in the way that you describe it though and you will never hold power.
technically, neither do YOU!
Was that ment to be an insult? I'm simply trying to understand your purpose.
Think of Dr. Evil (austin powers) and The Brain (animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain), they are always trying to take over the world. Do they sicceed? Never. Failure never stops them, and people always know what their ultimate goal is. Do people take them seriously? hardly.
Think of Dr. Evil (austin powers) and The Brain (animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain), they are always trying to take over the world. Do they sicceed? Never. Failure never stops them, and people always know what their ultimate goal is. Do people take them seriously? hardly.
That's exactly it. All that I'm trying to point out is that an organisation like this can't just appear at the level of Dr. Evil's nor could it in this enviroment evolve to that level of actually having power. They will be laughed at IC by most.
A Politician - Our representatives in the government, they buy people's votes, bribe local guards, and send threats to opposing parties - although they work separately, they will usually take orders directly from me.
When he says in the government it usually means in the government.
Think of Dr. Evil (austin powers) and The Brain (animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain), they are always trying to take over the world. Do they sicceed? Never. Failure never stops them, and people always know what their ultimate goal is. Do people take them seriously? hardly.
yeah, actually the Brain is one of my all time role models
I am not going to mince words with a lacky.
Sangwa, i think i know what the problem is: you are trying to compare my guild to The Dark Empire!He's not comparing you to the Dark Empire.
you can't just stay there and tell me i'm supposed to make everybody happyNo ones telling you that.
And all you folks who talk about power, quiet yourselves before I go into a rant on how much power you all actually have, including the vaunted DE.
Now, point out to me exactly where is states in there that this person -or a politician for that matter- is an actual member of the government.
A Politician - Our representatives in the government
He didn't show enough humour for a funny guild or enough seriousness for a serious guild so it's perfectly open to critisism particularly if he posts here. Can you try using punctuation in your next post? It's very hard to read.
And all you folks who talk about power, quiet yourselves before I go into a rant on how much power you all actually have, including the vaunted DE.
Now, point out to me exactly where is states in there that this person -or a politician for that matter- is an actual member of the government.
and..
A Politician - Our representatives in the government
Vigesimi normally come from the Craft Guilds of each level, and their position is hereditary. Nevertheless is not too rare to find some high citizens that are elected thanks to people acclamation, taking place of Vigesimi that are dead, that are judged inept or that are found to be guilty of thievery
I am the first to admit that 'The Crooks' is a silly guild that will not likely survive long. I am not defending it, but its right to exist. I am also defending it against the pointless nitpicking going on of small details.
I understand power, and guilds simply do not have it. A guild can come and go, and nothing would change. The DE could vanish tomorrow, and nothing would change. Munkii's guild could gain a great many players who are actually good at RP, and still, nothing would change. Until all this changes, and guilds do have actual power to change things in the game, do not assume any guild -including the DE- is more powerful than the next. You simply aren’t.
As to you folks who are ridiculing this and other guilds for just wanting to have fun, this IS a game. Guilds don't really DO anything. In fact, guilds are nothing more than expensive (in terms of tria) chatrooms filled to the brim with mostly ooc chatter.
He's right about the polititian thing though. Asides from that he's wrong.
Facts, folks, argue with facts. You completely ignored where I wrote that it would be perfectly within the Settings of this game for an actual Vigesimi to be in Munkii's pocket. Unlikely, yes, but still within the bounds of the given information.No one's saying it would be outside of the settings. It's just not a practical goal for him to have - not for where he is now, anyway.
Opinions, Zanzabar, as all of you statements are, do not constitute a valid argument.Unless you're talking about opinions.
It is your opinion that I do not have the ability to be critical of a guild.I don't recall saying that.
I am not wrong, for the facts clearly point out that I am right. I shall further narrow my statement to say that a guild in this game does not have any more power than a single person. A single person does not have the ability to truly change anything within the IC settings. That is a fact.Sure thing, but it's only one example of how power can be used. There are many others, and you did not specify which ones you were talking about in particular.
Your examples permit only that which happens between characters.So what? You did not specify what you meant by power. Things that happen between characters can be used to demonstrate power.
As for constructive criticism, I have not seen much constructive in it at all.Really? That's odd. I've seen tonnes between the two threads. Must be a difference of opinion.
For once, start using you brains to figure out what could actually be, rather than what should not be, based on you opinions.You must hate double negatives.
It is the boast of an overly ambitious punk (meaning Munkii's character, not Munkii himself). It is the same as if a gang leader in any given city of today was to look at his buddies and say "Some day, guys, we are going to own this town." Wrong? I think not.I doubt that it's Munkii's intention to be a punk on the street making outlandish claims.
First, he's hardly the first person to be critical of the guild.
Now I give you your moment to shine in all of you quote giving glory, Zanzi.Not only am I good at quoting things, but I'm good at responding to them! Perhaps discussion with me would be more fruitful if you addressed the content of my posts.
Point out the exact points where constructive criticism was given in -this- thread.For one, pointing out the constructive criticism in the previous thread.
Lastly, you must be an extrodinary mind reader, as I don't know what Munkii is intending.Wasn't that my point?
Wasn't that my point?
Wasn't that my point?
It is hard to tell, it seems your point is to negate anything constructive or logical.
I am the first to admit that 'The Crooks' is a silly guild that will not likely survive long. I am not defending it, but its right to exist. I am also defending it against the pointless nitpicking going on of small details.
At least the kind of politicians he was speaking about.
A Politician - Our representatives in the government, they buy people's votes, bribe local guards, and send threats to opposing parties - although they work separately, they will usually take orders directly from me.
you've got a lot to learn about humour, that goes for parallo and zanzibar too.
If it works I won't regret anything. I'll just be concerned with the players' standards.
Zanzibar, and you keep repeting the same sentence over and over, i'm just as opinionated as YOU are.
The logo doesn't match the color of the forum. =P