PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Moniker on May 23, 2007, 10:45:11 pm
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Greetings;
Here's a question I haven't been able to find the answers too. PS is in "alpha" testing and the
players are the alpha testers. Is Planeshift going to always remain free to the public ? Or is the
eventual aim to charge a monthly subscription as do other MMOG's ? If this is the aim what will
be the fate of the "alpha" testers ? Would we be charged ? If so will we get a break ? Or will
we get to continue to play free, since we helped during alpha/beta etc ?
May the Gods Protect Us !
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PlaneShift is meant to be fully, forever, free :)
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Greetings !
That is just GREAT, I'm speachless ! Other than the satisfaction, progress in all areas of IT, Software Development
and how to something like this (and the future of the personel for paid jobs) The whole team does really deserve
something from us !
How about a way for the players to contribute so the team can get free take-out, or get together in real life
and thow yourselfs a PARTY !! ?
We really do appreciate everyone involved, and it just keeps getting better and better !!!!
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Wow, your enthusiasm is truly appreciated :) Thank you for your kind comments.
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Is Atomic Blue registered as a non-profit organization?
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Link (http://www.atomicblue.org/)
Atomic.Blue is a Non Profit Corporation , built by a group of game development enthusiasts, to protect and promote the free and Open Source game, PlaneShift.
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Greetings
Zanzibar, and input from Karyuu, Are you implying that there is a way to contribute to a non-profit corp?
Would it be difficult to set something up for players to contribute via paypal or other (european/world) means
as well as by check, money order? If so I bet you would get overwelming support from the player community !
If not now when, if not now why ?
Just a Thought !
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http://www.planeshift.it/donate.html
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We're hoping that with another year or two of donations that we'll be able to order a pizza for Luca. :-)
No seriously, the big donations that have made a huge difference for us are the donations of bandwidth and server(s) from Fragnetics. We and the community are all indebted to them for their generosity.
- Venge
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well several games that are free have some very successful donation systems. often it is to buy a rare item that you cannot get otherwise, such a potion that would temporarly increase the health of all your guild members etc. Another is advertisements for money can help a lot but can only take you so far. Another solution is creating a partner bussiness that raises money only for the original. The creators would make this and then use it to fund it, it could be like a store etc. Or since dev are often coders they make other software and sell that as well. In theory it could stay free but server space would start to be an issue once the game becomes more popular.
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We don't want players paying for content - any content, especially that which could give those who donate benefits. We're not dying for any donations right now, and if we run into problems when the game grows to a player base of several thousand players (quite a ways away in the future), we'll deal with it closer to the time :)
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We don't want players paying for content - any content, especially that which could give those who donate benefits. We're not dying for any donations right now, and if we run into problems when the game grows to a player base of several thousand players (quite a ways away in the future), we'll deal with it closer to the time :)
You could always make a really effective item mall. Something that no MMO has ever done very well. Say, most have uber pets in item mall, well that's just unfair. Just put ones that aren't considered awesome in as an option for paying customers. Other things too maybe, say like maybe a bit more inventory space, or packages so you don't have to buy several things separate. Other MMOs always have things like double experience and whatnot, nothing of that nature either. Just a few things people might be willing to pay for but don't give them any kind of significant advantage and isn't awesome enough to make other people mad about it.
Anyway, I doubt it's going to happen. If you guys did have some sort of income though I'm sure things could go a bit more smoothly. I'm really cheap, but I wouldn't mind putting 10 dollars in for say 5 more inventory slots, a slightly more unique pet and etc. There's also the options of just purely cosmetic changes to characters for a very cheap price. Say unique colors for races, odd or funny skins for pets would work too.
Anyway, if you'd ever consider an item mall don't screw it up!
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We're not going to consider it ;) If you guys want to donate, you can do it already. But everything in PlaneShift will always be free.
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We're not going to consider it ;) If you guys want to donate, you can do it already. But everything in PlaneShift will always be free.
Well, here's how I look at it. If you guys could say hire a few employees, or invest the money somehow to help out the game, it'd be nice, right?
This is the only good free MMO I've found, the only other one I was bored of after 3 weeks, and there were many issues with the PvP. -.- I like the ideas of Darkfall, but I don't think it will come out for quite some time soon, and even I'm starting to think it might be vaporware. It also doesn't exactly look very appealing to the eyes.
As I said, this is the only good free MMO I've found, and don't doubt that I do a decent bit of searching. I like this game, so I want to see it go somewhere.
I almost want to hand you guys 20 dollars as a gift, but I'm cheap so I won't. Hehe. Anyway, I see nothing wrong with giving people the OPTION to pay you guys a bit for some content that makes nothing unfair etc as long as you do it RIGHT.
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Hire employees to do what, exactly? :) We get everything done. The problem is we don't get it done as fast as commercial projects - and this isn't going to change unless we get a full-time development team, which is going to cost more than anyone can offer.
I'm really excited to hear that you're so fond of PS already - it's always a motivational boost. But the very goal of this project, ever since it began, was to make everything completely and entirely free. We can't change that :)
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Hire employees to do what, exactly? :) We get everything done. The problem is we don't get it done as fast as commercial projects - and this isn't going to change unless we get a full-time development team, which is going to cost more than anyone can offer.
I'm really excited to hear that you're so fond of PS already - it's always a motivational boost. But the very goal of this project, ever since it began, was to make everything completely and entirely free. We can't change that :)
Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though. Either way, just saying, I'm sure many people are willing to pay a bit if they had the option to. And there's always SOMETHING to invest in. @.@
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Think about how weird would it be to say "We pay this guy but none of the others." I think keeping this a volunteer-based project would create less problems for both the teams and the community.
Either way, just saying, I'm sure many people are willing to pay a bit if they had the option to.
But they do :) The only catch is they'll have to do it from the goodness of their hearts.
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Best way is i guess we get more techie people to play the game :) . so they fall in love and code for it :) . I tried with my friends but they work 18 hrs a day and need shut eye or are not into game engine stuff. they said they program other things, dunno whats the difference though cos i am not techie. Anyhoo...i am sure if we all drop the word to other programmers we meet or know in real life and get them in game and help them understand the game and guide them a bit..they maybe a future dev and great asset tot he team and game ...ultimately making the game ...errr.....more 'kick ass' :-[ . Anyway to complete what i said earlier :) my techie friends hack and slash games maybe 30 mins on some days to release thier tress and they go back to proging..the thought od typing chats and rping makes them shudder ;D . I guess thats cos they are in front of comp for 17-18 hrs a day in office i guess. But i am sure like our devs there are those that would love to do what our devs do...if only they knew the game existed. So lets spread the word and tell people we meet to tell others too..especially all you unversity and company guys in tech related fields...spread the word! Err..spread it so that we have more devs. Dont spread it just cos u want to know a future dev....thats not a nice way to think..although cool :). Spread it to have the game get cooler faster \\o//
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Keep in mind, of course, that Talad is a very busy person. As are all the devs. Don't think that just because you can program you'll become a Dev and, as Venge has mentioned before, it's not the easiest programming you'll encounter.
Tell your techie friends about it but, be sure they love the game before they think about becoming a dev.
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Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though.
Many people WANT to be gms/devs, however, some .. most arnt quallified for the job. God knows i want to be a gm, however, i do beleave that i lack certain skills needed for said job.
Also, the game runs well enough atm for 200-+ players to be addicted enough to log on 20+ times a day after crashes/restarts.
Also, if the game needed more donations, a post could be added to the forums, and like Dattbuyo(sp :) ) tons of ppl would jump on it.
And to the gms/devs/mods/creators.. This game is awsome, sure it has its kinks, and problems with bad players, however, it still kicks ass and should be outlawed it so good ;). Great work on it, and for patroling the game;s logs looking for touble makers. You all should be very proud of the work you have done, and We all wish you the best of luck for the future of the game.
(dont leave or you will be tracked down and... ;) ) Thanks for the awsome game that is free and fun.
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Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though.
Many people WANT to be gms/devs, however, some .. most arnt quallified for the job. God knows i want to be a gm, however, i do beleave that i lack certain skills needed for said job.
Also, the game runs well enough atm for 200-+ players to be addicted enough to log on 20+ times a day after crashes/restarts.
Also, if the game needed more donations, a post could be added to the forums, and like Dattbuyo(sp :) ) tons of ppl would jump on it.
And to the gms/devs/mods/creators.. This game is awsome, sure it has its kinks, and problems with bad players, however, it still kicks ass and should be outlawed it so good ;). Great work on it, and for patroling the game;s logs looking for touble makers. You all should be very proud of the work you have done, and We all wish you the best of luck for the future of the game.
(dont leave or you will be tracked down and... ;) ) Thanks for the awsome game that is free and fun.
Hooray for the such an amazing game being free! I say this wins the post of the year award. Make him an honoray GM hehe. He'll learn how to do things from being allowed to do a few more things at a time. That way he won't make any major mistakes. xD...any jokes aside, very nice post. I would probably donate 5$ if they said they needed donations come to think of it. Much much better than 15 a month.
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Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though.
We would never get enough donations to pay even one dev to work for us, even part time. We're talking thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars a year here.
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Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though.
We would never get enough donations to pay even one dev to work for us, even part time. We're talking thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars a year here.
Pay them 5$ a day hehe. If they like the game enough they'll do it. Also, any word on whether there will be cloaks along with the capes?
I'd love to see an Assassin's Creed style cloak. Basically a less "wavy" more leathery cloak with arms, and actually somewhat tight.
Also for realism purposes, why can't chainmail be worn over leather?! Torn capes would be cool too. =P
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Pay them 5$ a day hehe. If they like the game enough they'll do it.
If they liked the game, $5 a day wouldn't make any difference, they'd work on it regardless.
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Pay them 5$ a day hehe. If they like the game enough they'll do it.
If they liked the game, $5 a day wouldn't make any difference, they'd work on it regardless.
True. They wouldn't have much time though. $5 a day would give the ones willing to devote more time into it some bread money. That's all they'd be eating for a good year or two. Only twice a day as well. It was a joke anyway hehe. I'm sure you've noticed. @.@
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Good artists don't work for less than what's minimum wage in most US states ;)
Besides, I did mention that we can't exactly pay only one or a few developers and not the entire team. That wouldn't be fair.
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Hmm...You could hire a few devs/GMs/etc from a few more timezones so they'll be on most of the time though.
We would never get enough donations to pay even one dev to work for us, even part time. We're talking thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars a year here.
I doubt that completly. If you said that the game needed money to survive.. amny ppl would hope up.. look inside thier wallets and run over to send a money order, or even cash.\
:) If you guys want a gm :) im willing. HA HA.. :) but really. ;)
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Taking donations in order to survive and paying for a full-time game developer are completely different. Even for a single part-time developer, the pay they'd need is in the thousands as Xordan said. I'm not studying game art just to "make do" in the future :)
I don't doubt the community's willingness and desire to help - but thinking that we all can jump up and turn our dev-team into a force comparable to that of commercial games is a bit much.
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ooh ooh. If people want to give me money for my awesome forum moderating I won't stop them. ;D
(that was a post made in joke btw.)
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I made you a cookie.
But I ated it.
:(