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Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: Sahra on May 30, 2007, 02:18:09 am
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Hello everybody! I've decided to post some pictures I've made here. These are my interperatations of Laanx. Just got some inspiration a few nights ago and I just ended up doing the drawings. :sweatdrop: Sorry they aren't that great. X-/
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/laanx2-1.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/laanx3-1.jpg)
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Great expressions! Have you tried working with pencil then switching over to pen? Makes it alot easier to erase faulties in your. Then there is the computer with which you can edit furthermore. If you don't have Photoshop then i'd advice you get GIMP.
Also, hair looks great when it's more detailed. The best thing to do that is adding it in the computer.
Keep working, I see you've already got a good base :]
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thanks a lot for the suggestioons/comments! :woot: Unfortunately I don't have Photoshop. I probably wouldn't even klnow how to use it! :sweatdrop:
as for details I've kind of never really had any lessons, so I'm kind of just doing this as i go. X-/ Sorry. Thanks for the message though! It makes me feel as though my sketches are actually liked (not really ::| ). Wish I could have art lessons though!
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You can always use the open source alternative: www.gimp.org :D
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thank you miadon! I am not allowed to use GIMP though X-/ . Rules of parents. :@#\
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wth? you have a rule not to install the GIMP?? o.O
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thank you miadon! I am not allowed to use GIMP though X-/ . Rules of parents. :@#\
Thast a good one! ;D
What does the rule exactly say and why it say so, if i may ask?
really, um, gah xD just lol
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looks good mate :)
gimp is useful...and yeah it has got a strange name, but hey ;D
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thankyou! I have a rule of not using GIMP becuase I might get a virus. My computer won't let me go to a site that it detects atleast 3 or more viruses on it X-/ . anyways thnks! i have another picture by the way. (heeheehee) I did this today in about 20 minutes. I did try to fix it up a little bit via hp-whatever :) . Anyways I heard about the game having riding animals. Since the ones they have all seem like they are flying-type animals, I got a REALLY freaked up image in my head. I'm sorry to say that it turned out better than i had imagined (j/k :lol: ) I'm sorry but I just HAD to draw it! :innocent: I have dubbed it a "Bamble", but I might change the name...suggestions are welcome/appreciated!
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0001.jpg)
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The GIMP website, nor software, has no viruses :)
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hmmmm..... I'm going to try editing some with my pics on the computer. I think I'll go try to fix my first 2 pictures :D
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I guess its just a case of uneducated parents. Why don't you ask them to take a look at the website? I'm sure they'd like to see your art expand and if you explain that GIMP will help, how can they say no ;). What you've done so far is great and makes me want to attack a sketch pad myself... inspiring is the word.
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wow i just keep getting spoiled today with good comments! :love: thanks sooooo much everybody! schoolhas finals coming up so ya- :oops: :offtopic: anyways :sweatdrop:
i might be drawing more to relieve stress (it helps me :D) as for telling my parents I'll give that a shot later on tonight!
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Good job on the fur, Sahra :] So you're aiming more on content than lineart?(No pun towards Lineart artists, I assure you) Lovely... Start training on shades and shadows, the best thing is to look at shadows, alot. Include alot of strong shadows, try to work on shades and gradiating between dark and light.
That's all I can tell you right now, send me a PM if there's anymore questions you need answered.
In accordance to relative stress: Don't get used to it, just relax, don't think too much about what others want to see. :]
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thank you everybody! Actually today I found something interesting in a folder I never use anymore. In it I found what looked likke to be a cat. so I started drawing more onto it. I probably won't be able to post anything this weekened though (finals suck!). Anyways, come meet e in the game if you like! And i can assure you all that my drawings are not that great. ::| But maybe they MIGHT eventually get better. Oh and I talked to my parents last night as well. They're going to send me to an art school this summer! I'm really happy! ;)
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Anyways I heard about the game having riding animals. Since the ones they have all seem like they are flying-type animals, I got a REALLY freaked up image in my head.
There's also the rivnak, which is tentatively a woolly animal similar to a llama or large ridable sheep. Not all flying-type.
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The GIMP website, nor software, has no viruses :)
Unlike what Karyuus double negation suggests, according to my virusscanning software (which rates websites according to virus alarms), there really are no viruses on the website :)
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okay I have a suprise for you all! (well not really but-) I did some "touched-ups" to my first two drawings! (I will keep the first two up so we can all see before and after. :woot: Well, laterz!
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/goodlaanxscan.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/goodlanxscan2.jpg)
I thought they turned out better than before! (By the way, I did all the "touch-ups" without using the computer ;D
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Excellent, you've trained on the shades. They came out very well! It seems you have a nack for gradiating also, well done. Keep on working on that and be sure to look in some anatomy books, it's always good to refresh your memory on human anatomy. I always strive to make my works as realistic as possible, and a good basis to making good works is training on copying nature and, later, settling on a style you like.
You indeed have a knack for making something beautiful, and I like that :)
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Two tips to make the second picture look nicer:
1)Make the eyes with the black center.Just like every humans eye.
2)Work on the right eyebrow.Right now it looks at if someone shaved her in her sleep as a prank.(No offense)
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I like the eyes
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Well, the pupilless eyes give a non-human look, and it is the god Laanx, so it is as she wants. However, from an anatomical point of view, it makes the eyes useless since they aren't any pupils to let the light enter and project itself on the retina.
Anyway, I find the eyelids a bit too artificial, especially in the second picture. They are way to defined. If you look at someone, you generally can't see a distinct line between the rest of the face and the eyelids, at least not as much as with the lips for example.
Except for that, great drawing!
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thanks! I wish I had an anatomy book. X-/ Oh well. internet is awesome! Ya I didn't really like the way the second picture turned out either. And the eyebrow is sopposed to look that way ;D It's when Talad made Laanx get all deformed. Sorry. I'll go work out the second one if I can. But like I said earlier, I have finals this week. I can try to fix it in my spare time. Please just keep in mind I'm not a 20 year old proffesional artist . :( I've never had lessons or anything (going to change this summer though! :lol:) All the "experience"I have is from looking at other artists' methods and doing my "best". sorry about bother you all . I wont bother you again. :) Thanks for all who commented though. :woot: Meet me if you want. (my character's name is Sahra).
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sorry about bother you all .
I really hope you didn't mean that X-/ Laanx became a man when she was 'deformed' but i see where you are coming from with the veins and that.
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sorry about bother you all .
I really hope you didn't mean that X-/ Laanx became a man when she was 'deformed' but i see where you are coming from with the veins and that.
Hefemale? ::|
Good drawing, however the race of Drizzt doesn't exist in Planeshift, because it has some resemblance to a drow.
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Oh hey everybody. Sorry about being so mad earlier. It's just that I'm a pretty sensitive person. For those that didn't like my previous pictures, this one's for you. :). It didn't turn out as good as I wanted, but my goal was to try to be a bit more realistic. As for Laanx's gender, I'm not sure. But from what I read and have heard, she decides to become a male. Not saying that I know for sure, but that's just what I've read. Anywho, this one took me 2 hours. yay. :thumbdown:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan-1.jpg)
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Try using your finger to smudge the graphite around the nose shadows... and those lips are bugging me. But I still think its great, however, your not on commission so don't worry about what other people want to see in your art, enjoy yourself! so less of the :thumbdown:'s eeh?
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lol what about the lips are buggingyou? i can fix them.
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Well its more the mouth, or lack of...
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I'm not sure what you're seeing, Feline. I agree that the nose requires gradiating which can be dealt with with the former method. I've never understood why you blur it out with your hands when a pen can be used to the same effect.
The only critique I could give you is that the underlip might look a bit too big.
Study people, they're living anatomical encyclopedias just waiting to be studied, study yourself :] If you want to, try a full body picture.
Don't worry, Sahra. I, and many others, have never studied at a art school before. :)
I know it is hard with criticism in the beginning, i'm not asking you to follow every single one of them. My advice is see them as shortcuts and pick the ones you like.
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wow, your last picture I find really amazing, and great job on the eyelids \\o// !
I wish I had an anatomy book.
Well you know, you have one just afront of you... the computer! Go in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org) and look up whatever part of the body you want.
Now for the lips, I understand you making them faint, however they still have to be there. Maybe try to make a very slight tone change and create some shades around, like in the picture below:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/MonaLisa_sfumato.jpeg)
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Thank you Josellis! I actually made that picture mainly for you. :woot: Anywho you're right;that's why i loooooove the internet! Thanks for all the criticing(sp?) and help! You guys (and gals) are really an inspiration to me. Heck, I've actually noticed some improvements (compare those two Laanx sets :lol: ) Thanks for all your help!
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As I didn't see any links posted yet so....
Discalamer: there are nude people on some of these links depicted for artistic value. Click at your own risk.
Nice site (http://www.fineart.sk/) for real pictured anatomy and pretty good poses.
A simple how-to site (http://www.artshow.com/resources/drawing.html) for basic drawings.
Grays index site (http://www.bartleby.com/107/indexillus.html) to anatomy.
That should give a good start for anyone wanting to learn basic anatomy. Best of luck on your endevors.
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the improvements on the newer drawings are well worth noting. Shading should have shades though, not just one. Also remember depth is more than just shading, on the first two drawings the far eye is bigger than the close one, and the angle of the nose doesn't match that of the face. Good work overall though, just keep at it :)
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this was drawn for one of my friends, Irick. He is awesomeness! :woot:
heehee! ya. :sweatdrop: anyways i have discovered something! anyways who really cares? okay i did these sketches (the old man is a Ylian, the old lady is a Hammerwielder, and the old cat is an Enki) . They each are just sketches that my scanner HATES (what doesnt it hate? X-/ ) the old man probably took me about 10 minutes, the old lady about 7 and the Enki about 5. Yay. (Yes its meant to be cartoony-ish because i cant draw realistic things worth a nickel.)Drawn completely in ink (except for my Enki's fur)
sorry the computer doesn't like my Enki's fur.i promise it's there.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/Elders.jpg)
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(Yes its meant to be cartoony-ish because i cant draw realistic things worth a nickel.)
Well, the old Ylian and Hammerwielder do look cartoonish, but in a good way, now for the Enki, I reckon it looks great, and I don't reckon it looks too cartoonish.
Now for the part where you say "I cant draw realistic things worth a nickel", well, do they have to be worth a nickel? As you said before, you have never taken art lessons, so it is only by practicing and perfectioning that you can achieve really good realism. Also, anything on paper cannot be that realistic, as Picasso would say.
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Well that Enki isnt worth a nickel.....Id give you 50$ for it.No seriously compare what you have drawn now to what you showed us before.....See the MASIVE improvement ? Good good.Now imgaine if you keep improving at that rate.Do you see your drawings in 1 year ?Well anyways keep practising so we can see them too. :D
And seriosuly that enki is greatly done.Simple yet detailed.
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Love that enki face one.... thats something i may just steal perportions of somewhat and perhaps cure my enki head drawing pain :P
awesomeness \o/
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Aww thank you all for the last few comments (I was afraid nobody would EVER see that last picture! :lol: ) Yay! I actually have noticed improvements. That's thanks to all of YOU (ya. Corney. But it's true!) I'm actually thinking of doing more but I'm having some artist block... (Depression problems too but w/e that's not relevant.) Thank you everybody! (Nobody will say yes to this but if u want me to draw something put it up there and I'll give it a shot. (hah. I can dream hahahaha!)
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Oh, I forgot to mention a few things. 1. The redish spots on the page were from a papercut this drawing gave me.(talk about putting your sweat and blood into your art :( )Self explanatoy there. 2. I had trouble drawing the Enki. Irick said Enkis don't live past the age of about 40 when i was drawing this in school. Also, he told me he liked the fur the way it was and to NOT nk that in , so sorry if it's not cartoonish enough or whatever. It was actually a spontaneous/request peice. Wierd. :-\
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okay well i took them off are you happy?
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PS everybody: I will be gone from Friday until Late Monday night, as I am visiting my dieing Grandpa. I may draw some things becuase I get really bored driving in the car for more than 5 hours. So please don't feel offended if I don't respond over said period of time. Thanks, Sahra. :)
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I really like the hair but she does look somewhat stoned.
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hey . T.T* I DO MY BEST! :( :'(
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I say darken the colours they are wya to bright for posting.Try giving the picture some contrast via any picture fixing program.The first one looks good butn the second one is kinda blinding me so i cant see squat.Besides the fact that its the same painting as the first one.
And also this lacked shadows a bit.
If you want to incorporate them i would sugest you make a basic white black scetch then put in the shadows and then put in the colours very softly so you have an idea of how it looks like so you can change it if it looks bad and if you like it erase that part and draw the colour softly and the pecil shade softly.Its lenghty but it helps me.
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Made something else. Always have wanted to try drawing "Disney" style. Here was my first try at it. I might color it. Maybe.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0004.jpg) (ps i shrunk it down some so you canprint it out and use as a bookmark! ( hahaha just kidding just kiddin.) Guess who it is? First one to get the correcct answer gets a cookie! (Well, not really...) This and the next drawing I have planned are for my favorite couple. Happy wedding Kersha and Rakhun!!!!!!!
Luv ya all
~Sahra
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Nice pictures.
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heehee thanks! ;D I just couldn't resist this idea. (had it in a dream lol.)My first Kran!!!( random cheering from an invisible audience is heard and conffeti and streamers randomly pop out of the air) Done in about 3 minutes. Ink, may color over tomorrow/weekend. I call it: "Self Explanation". Will try to clean it up some. Speaks for itself. :detective:
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0005.jpg)
:whistling:
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more from last night about 11-12 (pm-am) a picture of yours truly.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0006.jpg)
PS if you all want to I might color it(maybe the Laanx one too but I haven't gotten any requests for it to be colored yet.) And my pen is running out of ink;I need to get a new one.
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I Like that :)
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remember that picture i mentioned? (if not then whatever, I don't really care.) Sorry bad mood today. Got my grades and my mom is pissed. This is that cat picture i found randomly from about 3 years ago that I ended up adding on to. It was screwed up by my scanner. As usual. (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0007.jpg)
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woo! I've really gotten out the pictures today! (even though my mood hasn't improved much) >:( This is something I did before I started everything else.... (When I first heard the description for an Ylian I realized when I was creating my character that there were no female designs yet! This pissed me off, so I decided to make my own (last fall). I ended up checking the site after I was done to make sure I had fit the description to my liking only to figure out THER WAS ALREADY A DESIGN FOR ONE!!!!!! Well, I've finally gotten the courage to put it up here, it's before I ever knew about proportions AT ALL.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0008.jpg)
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And another! I am just so amazing, aren't I? Well I had an idea that I drew last night (weird I draw a lot at night, huh?) about 7 pm. It's Laanx in her full outfit (one of them atleast, I have ideas for a few others. This is just the one that I have used for my first drawings.)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0009.jpg)
PS this drawing is more about the outfit than Laanx's proportions. Please don't b*&%^ to me about them. It's the outfit. OUTFIT. OUTFIT!!!! OUTFIT I TELL YOU!!!!!!!
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Don't double-post if you're posting on the same day please :)
Study proportion and anatomy. A regular person is about 6 heads in height - anything smaller, and they start to look childlike. And even a soft female form still has some muscle definition. Don't be afraid to use straight, hard lines as well as curves.
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ya I know sorry. :sweatdrop: Anyways these pictures are ooooollllld. (like I said they are before I ever even started to study proportions. And the Laanx is nore of a focus on the outfit. NOT proportions. ) Didn't I already say that? :detective:
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Why are you posting old pictures? :)
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Why are you posting old pictures? :)
Why not? :P
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Because I'd think an artist would want to make the best impression. Old drawings usually do not convey that. If you've improved lots since you drew something, especially with something as vital as anatomy and proportions, why put it up?
/me shrugs.
:)
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Can't see how much a person has improved if you never see the older work though.
I not only admire how well someone can create images and whatnot, but admire them for putting so much time and effort into something to keep striving to improve themselves. Never seing the old stuff, you never can really appreciate how far they have come.
It's probably the same reason I have my very first gold tournament's score card next to one of my very last ones. That 126 for 18 holes last place winner may not look very good sitting next to the 69 for 18 holes tournament winner, but it lets me appreciate how far I weas able to come along.
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Yeah, but it doesn't mean I'm going to be posting my work from when I didn't understand anatomy basics though :P If I post something I made now, and then I post something a few months later, the progress is going to be a lot more relevant.
"This is something I made two years ago when I didn't know how to draw" doesn't help anyone, trust me.
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:'(
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Ignore Karyuu she is a mean bully :P
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I made this one today. I have to say, I really like this one the best of all my Planeshift works up until now.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0014.jpg)
Yay! I hope everybody likes this one because i spent about 4 hours on it. I might post the origional (I made a copy and colored the copy) that's in black and white if you guys and girls want.
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WOW!!!
The eyes in the foreground character are just beautiful, however I would just lighten the black outline a little (don't get rid of it totally because it wouldn't highlight the eyes).
Also, when I look back at some of your first pictures (page 4 I think), and compare them to what you have just drawn, the difference is just amazing.
Unfortunately (and fortunately), now that you have improved so much in some aspects of your drawing, some other not-so-good aspects show up, and for me it was the pencil lines which were a little too visible. I guess you should just try filling a 10cm square with one colour as uniformly as possible, and making the least lines visible. Once you can do a uniform colour in that square, try adding gradients, from dark to light, from bold to light, or even from one colour to another.
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I'm going to be getting an anatomy book for my sweet sixteen on Tuesday. I'm excited to finally get some help! I've been trying to improve....really I have...
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OK now that is geting strange.Everyone (exept Karyu that bully) tells you how much youve improved.And your last post is about how you try to improve almost as if you have to improve for us.So let me ask you this.Did you read the other posts in this thread?
Well if you did then you should know if you just said "Thats it im doing crappy drawings from now on" We would all nod and reply something in the form of "Sure if you want to".
As my favorite comic character once put it "You dont have to come up with something good.Theres no presure for you since they dont expect anything from you." Cruel i know but true.Ok im geting sleepy from writing so i probably started to bable so ill shut up now.
And your doing great kido just keep at it.
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im confused. ???
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I'm going to be getting an anatomy book for my sweet sixteen on Tuesday. I'm excited to finally get some help! I've been trying to improve....really I have...
Until then you can browse books af the great Anfrew Loomis on the internet
http://www.artcone.com/forums/andrew_loomis_books_downloads-t1772.html
http://www.fineart.sk/index.php?cat=1
http://alexhays.com/loomis/
Also, keep posting works here, but join an art communities where expert people will help you to become better: it's unbeliaveble how useful it can be.
I hope you enjoy improving, bye! :)
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Hey I'm finally back! :thumbup: (My parents kept planning "surprise vacations" and didn't tell me until the last minute) I made this over the most recent trip; it's Laanx. I know it's not that great but hey, I was drawing this in the car. Oh well.
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan-1.jpg)
Oh and here's a poem I think goes with it (I made the poem myself)
The Hooded One
Who masked beauty
rode the stars
to the path of Dawn
Was Laanx
Talad's twin
Silent
as lightning is silent
before the thunder
of the storm
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I really like the dress in the wind, the way it seems to move is very well done except for the lower part at the front, it seems as if it is resting on something. The curve has a little too sharp bend, but at least you got the rippling very well done.
Another comment, what is the story behind the staff? Although some woods have strange ways of growing, I think what you drew is a bit too extravagant near the top, otherwise the rest of the staff is very well done.
Except this, great drawing considering you were in the car, I would perhaps add a few shades (on the ground and her back) but I guess that no shades on the ground add a bit of an ethereal feel to it.
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Hey Sahrah, its been a while sence a checked in with you, you have gotten a lot better with your drawings. i did a quick re-run through you last few and i am very impressed. keep up the good work!
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Thank you, Irick. And everybody else too. The staff... :-\ I was actually trying to make a darker form of a staff (not nescessarily evil mind you) but it was to no avail. Oh well. I'm working on some other stuff too.
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I tried making something else today...dunno how it turned out.... :-\
I really need to clean my scanner. It has so many smudges and stuff on it. ( I promise it's not the drawing. I checked.)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0003-1.jpg)
for some reason my stupid scanner screwed things up. Again.
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Ok, in your latest drawing there are a few things I'd like to comment on in good and bad, and I'll start with the bad stuff.
1. The right part of the upper lip is swollen
2. The left eye seems to be ontop of her face instead of inside it... (especially the left-most point of it)
For the good stuff:
1. Great work on shading!
2. Great work with the hair, it doesn't have clean edges like in your previous drawing which gives a much more real look to it (not saying that your previous drawings are bad at all).
3. The face is fairly well proportioned (a few minor details here and there)
4. Great cheekbones! do you already have your anatomy book? because the cheekbones look really good.
5. Great pose!
I must say that best thing I find about this drawing is that they are no hard lines used, which gives a much more real look. As soon as there are some clean-cut borders, it gives a more cartoonish look, not that it is bad in any ways, it is just a different style.
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WOOHOOO!!!!!!!!! Yes, that's what I was goind for-realism! (Yep, got a loooooooooooooooooooooong way to go.) I will not give up. I'm going to reach my dream Karyuu!!!!!!! I WILL!
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Atta girl :) I've no doubts you will - I love the determination.
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your sketches are good but only from an amator point of view. what i mean is that you lack a certain technique for making the sketches, you just eyeball all the elements and this is why you have anatomy problems, and a lack of depth. try studying the human anatomy, and proportions, and read some tutorial or something. i warmly recommend you to read any f andrew loomis's books. here's a link about the guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Loomis
he's a true pro, or master if you prefer, and he seems to be a great teacher.
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Actually I think you don't realize two things:
1. I HAVE been studying anatomy
2. This is only my first drawing after cracking down on myself.
I stay up untill @ am every night just to practice atleast 3 hours a day. I just need time for improvement is all. I think.
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I think you have shown a marked improvement. Try drawing over and over the individual elements of the body.. breaking them down into basic shapes such as spheres or cubes etc.. until you are a little better at each, then add them together. But keep it up... you will and can only get better.
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Actually, that's whatI'm working on right now. Esp much? ???
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As Karyuu once said to me, train on seperate parts of the body, then try melding them together :]
I've been taught by many artists, never be afraid to ask.
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Hey everybody! It's been awhile and... I haven't really done much except for this (I think it turned out betterthan I thought). I had been neglecting my colored pencils for a while, so a few days ago I started to doodle. I didn't know what it would turn out to be or anything :sweatdrop: Anyways, I had fun using colored pencils. This will be the first time I've ever used "just colored pencils" in a drawing (not including the sig. I did that in ink).Yes, she IS crying by the way. Anyways....ya. *Pokes everybody with long pointy stick of DOOM*
"I may have lost myself, but I am still living on."
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p272/magicdiva/scan0003-2.jpg)
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That's hot. :whistling:
Though I think there should be some shading under the cloak on the body
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Thanks for the reply: I'll get right to it :thumbup: I also need to work on the color combinations for the bottom of the picture. It looks like I just got kinda tired and slapped it down on the paper... (Lol I'm criticizing my own work now ::| ) And the cloak: the idea was to have it being blown (like by the wind) across her body. The problem is, part of hair is going the other way. I really like the way her hair is, but that is another problem. Eh. I need to go back and fix it up. I'll work on it some more later. :detective:
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Also the hair going over the eye might want a looking at. Love it all the same.
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Ya, I have to admit this is one pretty messed up doodling. Oh well. Not like it's going anywhere. *sigh*