PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: socia on June 13, 2007, 06:34:20 pm
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Kill stealing:
You don't own mob, if you are camping it... If someone is faster than you, what the hell. There is no KSing in game atm, you can't KS atm. If somene is taking your mob, you should try to roleplay it, challange him, be faster than he or just leave. Until you hit mob anyone can take it, if you hit him once an than leave for min, anyone can take him > that's not KSing. Ksing is if someone takes mob while you already are hitting him, if such thing happends it's mostly because of offensive spells not set in db as offensive, report it.
PvP:
Almighty DP points.. oh If oyu are collecting DP points, you are jerk.
If you are trying to be best, you are jerk.
There can't be anyone best in this game, there is always lag, connection problems and so on.. And this game isn't CS. Take pvp as extension of rp.
When you die in pvp you aren't suposed to run out of DR and seek the one who killed you to keep annoying, look: Your char just died, it was painful, he had to seek his way out of DR (which should take much longer than it takes atm) and he went trough many things, if he realy seeks revange, he'll get it in few days, not 5min after he bleeded on ground.
Roleplay:
No lol,omg,rofl etc aren't suposed to even show up...
Use [] when you are talking out of character.
Always do difference between ooc and ic, when you get some info ooc YOUR CHARACTER HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT.
Always be polite ooc, ic > make some limits to your imagination, you can't have all the powers of the world (best help is to base your char on your stats).
Always roleplay, from mining to dueling...
Fairness:
Always be fair, this isn't singleplayer, no cheating.. in any ways.
Eg > expliting db bugs to killsteal :)
> potioning your self during fight (yes it's quite unrealistic to drink potions while you are hanging with your swords)
> exploiting any kind of bug, settings, code, rules..
> don't harash people, leave him alone after short time so when he doesn't have time for it, it was ok
we are playing this game to have fun, not to 'break,win against,fight,annoy..' each other
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The political incorrectness is kinda hard to swallow for an old codger like me
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The political incorrectness is kinda hard to swallow for an old codger like me
what is politicaly incorrect on it?
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None of this seems unreasonable to me. Some of it is not all that new, but the perpetuity of players reminding eachother of fairly standard conventions is probably for the best.
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The political incorrectness is kinda hard to swallow for an old codger like me
what is politicaly incorrect on it?
The whole calling people jerks thing because of their particular mindset which doesn't directly affect anyone is all.
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thanks xillix :sweatdrop:
The whole calling people jerks thing because of their particular mindset which doesn't directly affect anyone is all.
so you'll like being annoyed just because someone needs to prove that he is better than you ? :)
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Regarding.... LOL rofl OMG etc.
This something we all regard as OCC but I fail to understand why this is so. Dont medievial people lol or rofl at all. :) Or is it they only 'laugh out loud'. I can understand if some says 'I lol' that would be totally OCC .. no one speaks in acronyms. However '/me lol' is says 'Joe lol' ..to me makes sense and is not OOC. If you think this is OCC what do you mean? Surely Medieval characters used acronyms and short cuts in their writing (btw I am no expert in Medieval letters)
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i think it's more when they just say "LOL" rather than "/me LOL" which to be honest still annoys me i will admit. It seems too msn for me. I much prefer it if some says something like "/me Laughs emphatically." Or at least something a bit more descriptive.
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Most important note for people:
Don't be uptight. ;)
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I think this thread, regarding the infamous "LOL", is referring to something like this:
*Annera looks down sadly and says: My parents are both dead
*L33T says: LOL
LOL became so widespread that many times it is used beyond its original meaning. And because of the association of this acronym with "13375|*34|(" and with the internet subculture, I find it very annoying to see it on a game supposed to be about roleplaying in a "medieval" world. And medieval people never used acronyms in stupid ways and in the wrong occasions.
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Regarding.... LOL rofl OMG etc.
This something we all regard as OCC but I fail to understand why this is so. Dont medievial people lol or rofl at all. :)
You can laugh, but use "/me laughs loudly" instead of "lol".
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Regarding.... LOL rofl OMG etc.
This something we all regard as OCC but I fail to understand why this is so. Dont medievial people lol or rofl at all. :)
You can laugh, but use "/me laughs loudly" instead of "lol".
There is a /laugh command too ;)
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I agree with most of what is said, and I think most of the respectable PS community will agree as well.
Kill stealing:
You don't own mob, if you are camping it... If someone is faster than you, what the hell. There is no KSing in game atm, you can't KS atm. If somene is taking your mob, you should try to roleplay it, challange him, be faster than he or just leave. Until you hit mob anyone can take it, if you hit him once an than leave for min, anyone can take him > that's not KSing. Ksing is if someone takes mob while you already are hitting him, if such thing happends it's mostly because of offensive spells not set in db as offensive, report it.
kill stealing is kindof a funny concept to me... I suppose it'll be less of a big deal when random spawn points are introduced.
PvP:
Almighty DP points.. oh If oyu are collecting DP points, you are jerk.
If you are trying to be best, you are jerk.
There can't be anyone best in this game, there is always lag, connection problems and so on.. And this game isn't CS. Take pvp as extension of rp.
When you die in pvp you aren't suposed to run out of DR and seek the one who killed you to keep annoying, look: Your char just died, it was painful, he had to seek his way out of DR (which should take much longer than it takes atm) and he went trough many things, if he realy seeks revange, he'll get it in few days, not 5min after he bleeded on ground.
DP... DP... I think I've complained enough about them... they have no real purpose.
Roleplay:
No lol,omg,rofl etc aren't suposed to even show up...
Use [] when you are talking out of character.
Always do difference between ooc and ic, when you get some info ooc YOUR CHARACTER HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT IT.
Always be polite ooc, ic > make some limits to your imagination, you can't have all the powers of the world (best help is to base your char on your stats).
Always roleplay, from mining to dueling...
abbreviations do make me wince a bit everytime I see them in an IC conversation. It's just so... bah... I mean comeon, which sounds better?
Jangeol lol
Jangeol laughs uproarously
I try not to get on anyone's case about it, but I don't use them myself, and IMO it just looks better when you make an attempt to be somewhat descriptive in your roleplay.
Fairness:
Always be fair, this isn't singleplayer, no cheating.. in any ways.
Eg > expliting db bugs to killsteal Smiley
> potioning your self during fight (yes it's quite unrealistic to drink potions while you are hanging with your swords)
> exploiting any kind of bug, settings, code, rules..
> don't harash people, leave him alone after short time so when he doesn't have time for it, it was ok
I know very few people who haven't used an exploit of some sort at some point and time... it's unfortunate really. I think it's the one rotten apple spoiling the whole bunch theory really, one person uses the exploit, and then everybody else does to eliminate the other players ill gotten advantage.
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kill stealing is kindof a funny concept to me... I suppose it'll be less of a big deal when random spawn points are introduced.
Tell me about it. I don't understand why some people feel they have the grounds to be upset if someone kills a mob they intended to go after. Just yesterday, I logged into the game and found myself next to a gladiator. I attacked it and killed it. As I was walking away, a long time player who (up to that point) came across as a good roleplayer started cussing at me for stealing her kill! It completely changed the way I view that person.
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Kill stealing is a bit of a hard subject for me to form an opinion on. I can see it as totally ridiculous; then again I can see it as in if I were fishing a spot on a lake and some guy came in and started casting into the spot I had been for some time because he saw I was doing well. But yea, random spawn points seem like a more realistic (can it be realistic?!) and better overall policy.
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Kill stealing is a bit of a hard subject for me to form an opinion on. I can see it as totally ridiculous; then again I can see it as in if I were fishing a spot on a lake and some guy came in and started casting into the spot I had been for some time because he saw I was doing well. But yea, random spawn points seem like a more realistic (can it be realistic?!) and better overall policy.
The thing is that kill stealing isn't even possible in Planeshift, unless you're talking about people claiming mobs at a distance using the arrow spell. But people freak out all the time simply because someone else got to the mob first, and then you have to deal with five minutes of "BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
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Kill stealing is a bit of a hard subject for me to form an opinion on. I can see it as totally ridiculous; then again I can see it as in if I were fishing a spot on a lake and some guy came in and started casting into the spot I had been for some time because he saw I was doing well. But yea, random spawn points seem like a more realistic (can it be realistic?!) and better overall policy.
The thing is that kill stealing isn't even possible in Planeshift, unless you're talking about people claiming mobs at a distance using the arrow spell. But people freak out all the time simply because someone else got to the mob first, and then you have to deal with five minutes of "BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
At least I'm not that way...Playing HaloPC CTF for 3+ years can give you a new appreciation for some things :P
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of "BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
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Ah.. i hear that often.. from "X" person and you know whom i talk of Zanz
Anyway.. the poster of the topic is incorrect when they say its impossible..
KS is defind as attacking a mob after someone has declared an attack already.
The mob becomes locked once.. and only once an attack has scored some damage, not when declared. So have a low weapon skill and your attacking a mob that is "fast" you could have missed the last 10 strikes in which case.. UH oh, lock is released and then KS.
I will make sure to post my thread about rules and such once i get around it to :P its bout 5pages in hand lol
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"BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
Ah.. i hear that often.. from "X" person and you know whom i talk of Zanz
Personally, I'd use a V instead of an X, but yes I know who you're talking about.
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"BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
Ah.. i hear that often.. from "X" person and you know whom i talk of Zanz
Personally, I'd use a V instead of an X, but yes I know who you're talking about.
Personally, if I were this person I would play Unreal Tournament 2004 or PlanetSide instead of PlaneShift.
I don't see why a so bland and dull duelling system still attracts people into it while any FPS and many other MMOGs not focused on RP have much better combat systems than PlaneShift. And yes, when I want action over storyline and roleplay I prefer my own skills on it.
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"BY THE GODS KILL STEALER YOU SUCK IM GONNA GET MY GUILD TO HARASS YOU BY THE GODS ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE COWARD!!!!!!1111ELEVEN".
Ah.. i hear that often.. from "X" person and you know whom i talk of Zanz
Personally, I'd use a V instead of an X, but yes I know who you're talking about.
Personally, if I were this person I would play Unreal Tournament 2004 or PlanetSide instead of PlaneShift.
I don't see why a so bland and dull duelling system still attracts people into it while any FPS and many other MMOGs not focused on RP have much better combat systems than PlaneShift. And yes, when I want action over storyline and roleplay I prefer my own skills on it.
I think it's all about power. It's about being better than everyone else, and being able to hurt everyone before they can hurt you. Some people see people like V as sadists, but I think it's also possible they're simply afraid.
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A guy that calls himself V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_%28comics%29), wearing a Guy Fawkes mask, killing some "nazis" and blowing buildings isn't necessarily sadistic, just a somewhat insane and very anti-authority and anarchistic.
but I think it's also possible they're simply afraid.
"People should not be afraid of their government, the government should be afraid of their people"
P.S.: I had to make this pun on the use of V for Duelling, oops, I mean, Vendetta. >o)
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KS is defind as attacking a mob after someone has declared an attack already.
The mob becomes locked once.. and only once an attack has scored some damage, not when declared. So have a low weapon skill and your attacking a mob that is "fast" you could have missed the last 10 strikes in which case.. UH oh, lock is released and then KS.
Its not ksing, if you are unable to make damage to npc, than you are blocking him, you have no right to have him. Again READ THE RULES.
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Hmm, I agree with most of it, but don't refer to your rules so aggressively ("Again READ THE RULES."). These kinds of things can only shape a portion of the community and most of the time they shape the part that doesn't need it that much. If someone goes as heavy on failing these rules as the person Zan describes, it isn't some player/forum-made ruling that is going to change their attitude.
"People should not be afraid of their government, the government should be afraid of their people"
This is true in Europe, to an extent :P
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*reads Socia's post and nods*
I tottally agree with all you said there. Most seems comon sence anyhow ;)
Haven't actually seen anyone using lol yet IC, but I have to admit if I get on in the morning there are so many people there that don't seem to know what IC means that I wouldn't be suprised there are timezones that it's going rampant.