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Support => Forum and Website Discussions => Topic started by: Tuxide on February 05, 2008, 09:39:01 am
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Hey all, UTM and I were having this conversation on the IRC fan channel and we decided that we posters all need to be nice here on the forums. That way the forum mods will start be nicer to us. So we all need to get together here and start being really nice here from now on, okay everyone?
P.S. And if we're all really really nice here maybe Neko will remove the flamewar from his sig ;-)
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(http://www.bentheillustrator.com/media/speakerdog/gallery_41.jpg)
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\o/ Yay for niceness I promise to be nice to myself so I can be nice back
http://www.armory.com/tests/niceness.html
You answered "yes" to 31 of 100 questions, making you 69.0% nice pure (31.0% nice corrupt)
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Nice? What is this blasphemy?
I seem to have got 90.0% on that test...which...really does demonstrate my modesty...
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I got 44.
And yeah, I'm nice to the people I like. I figure that's enough :P
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/me trolls all the nice people
/me trolls himself
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So if you want to talk ‘nice’ first you must define it so there is no misunderstandings of what nice is:
Nice:
pleasant or pleasing or agreeable in nature or appearance; "what a nice fellow you are and we all thought you so nasty"- George Meredith; "nice ...
decent: socially or conventionally correct; refined or virtuous; "from a decent family"; "a nice girl"
done with delicacy and skill; "a nice bit of craft"; "a job requiring nice measurements with a micrometer"; "a nice shot"
discriminate: noting distinctions with nicety; "a discriminating interior designer"; "a nice sense of color"; "a nice point in the argument"
a city in southeastern France on the Mediterranean; the leading resort on the French Riviera
courteous: exhibiting courtesy and politeness; "a nice gesture"
With all the cultural differences and the language barrier I find being ‘nice’ to everyone is can be daunting. Though I keep trying. I understand why neko has to keep his ‘flame.’ He has a hard job and being nice is not always part of it.
So back to trying to be ‘nice’ I say, neko keep up the great work doing a job that I would never ever want to do and thank you.
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Always look on the bright side of life :whistling: <----that whistle bit at the end
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Anumesa are you trying to say something 'nice'?
/me laughs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo
:)
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I thought neko was making like Khan and stabbing at us from hell's heart!
Oh and "nice" is a euphemism for stupid.
What brought on this thread? I have not noticed anything particularly nasty on the part of the moderators, nor, really from the posters. A little bit of good natured sniping, perhaps but no real venality.
Anyway to prove how nice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrCBWzhlCVM) I am here are a couple nice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpwiJI2xCJQ&NR=1) videos.
Nice is not nice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-xp0LewhI8)
Bad language alert on last clip
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If you don't care for the animated gif referencing one of the best "evil" villains ever created in an anime series from the show cowboy bebop, I could change it to an animated gif I made myself a long long time ago from one of my other favorite shows:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/thebaronvonperrine/PS%20stuff/Avatar.gif)
I doubt many people would recognize where that one come from though.
As for the topic of being "nice" on the forums, it isn't required for people to be nice. It's simply required that if you don't have something constructive to say, you don't say anything at all, or else you are given a timeout.
Some of the older members will disagree and some may agree with this, but if you were around the forums say, oh, say 2002, the atmosphere around here was quite different. Flaming ran rampart, people avoided the forums at all costs, and generally it was a cesspool of off topic, random dribble.
Some people with lower maturity levels may wish to go back to those days, and if they do, then they are freely welcome to make their own forums and post all of that stuff there. But on these official forums, rules have been set in place to allow for the majority of people to have a pleasant time while using the forums and allowing for them to feel welcomed being here.
I'll go find an old post......http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=850.0
:)
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/me agrees!
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Hi all, thank you all for responding to my post so let me give my response before I go to college, okay? I define "nice" as "don't be an ass" and I take it from an essay on Wikipedia (which uses more colorful words). Some people would rather word this as "treat others the way you wish to be treated" but that doesn't really work if you wish to be treated with assery.
His sig is still there, which means we ain't trying hard enough people, so we all need to get together and be nice, OK? If I recall, the villain gets shot in the face or something.
I'll go find an old post......http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=850.0
I've been around since 2002 and a lot of these people were noobs back then. I don't think cmhitman would make a good forum mod but I really miss him.
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[image goes here]
I'm surprised none of the outlaws spray painted the "Its good to be bad." motto onto that sign yet...
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Some of the older members will disagree and some may agree with this, but if you were around the forums say, oh, say 2002, the atmosphere around here was quite different. Flaming ran rampart, people avoided the forums at all costs, and generally it was a cesspool of off topic, random dribble.
Some people with lower maturity levels may wish to go back to those days, and if they do, then they are freely welcome to make their own forums and post all of that stuff there. But on these official forums, rules have been set in place to allow for the majority of people to have a pleasant time while using the forums and allowing for them to feel welcomed being here.
2002? Wherever did you come up with that number?
I think I might need to let you know, but the forums were ALL WE HAD in 2002. There was no game, and very few people actually knew Planeshift existed. So how in the world would people avoid the forum "at all costs" where "flaming ran rampa[n]t". So sorry if it was "random dribble", seeing as how we didn't actually have a game to talk about. Nevertheless we were a tightly knit community. Coincidentally, some of the most revered people in this community came from that time or shortly after.
That said, who in the hell wants to go back to that? That does not make any sense, and I for one have never said such a thing. And we did have moderators then. Good moderators. whitti, Venge, etc. Unfortunately they became inactive (whitti quit and Venge was working, and the others were never active) and we more or less had to do our own form of moderation.
In conclusion, your ill-conceived bashing of a time you were not around for proves just why you're on Mogura-levels of moderation.
I'll go find an old post......http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=850.0
I've been around since 2002 and a lot of these people were noobs back then. I don't think cmhitman would make a good forum mod but I really miss him.
Haha, cm was banned a long time ago. And he deserved it (harassing Kada). Though if I remember correctly it was lifted then he was promptly banned again for spamming. Maybe it was the other way around.
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I'm surprised none of the outlaws spray painted the "Its good to be bad." motto onto that sign yet...
:whistling:
Something like this?
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1286/gallery412cb5.jpg)
I agree though :lol:
:flowers:
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love you too kiern
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Thats simply awesome socks....
2002? Wherever did you come up with that number?
I think I might need to let you know, but the forums were ALL WE HAD in 2002. There was no game, and very few people actually knew Planeshift existed. So how in the world would people avoid the forum "at all costs" where "flaming ran rampa[n]t". So sorry if it was "random dribble", seeing as how we didn't actually have a game to talk about. Nevertheless we were a tightly knit community. Coincidentally, some of the most revered people in this community came from that time or shortly after.
That said, who in the hell wants to go back to that? That does not make any sense, and I for one have never said such a thing. And we did have moderators then. Good moderators. whitti, Venge, etc. Unfortunately they became inactive (whitti quit and Venge was working, and the others were never active) and we more or less had to do our own form of moderation.
In conclusion, your ill-conceived bashing of a time you were not around for proves just why you're on Mogura-levels of moderation.
You know waterman... You're cute when you get all ruffled like that.
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Well I was totally going to refrain! Leave it to Socius however ;)
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Some of the older members will disagree and some may agree with this, but if you were around the forums say, oh, say 2002, the atmosphere around here was quite different. Flaming ran rampart, people avoided the forums at all costs, and generally it was a cesspool of off topic, random dribble.
Some people with lower maturity levels may wish to go back to those days, and if they do, then they are freely welcome to make their own forums and post all of that stuff there. But on these official forums, rules have been set in place to allow for the majority of people to have a pleasant time while using the forums and allowing for them to feel welcomed being here.
2002? Wherever did you come up with that number?
I think I might need to let you know, but the forums were ALL WE HAD in 2002. There was no game, and very few people actually knew Planeshift existed. So how in the world would people avoid the forum "at all costs" where "flaming ran rampa[n]t". So sorry if it was "random dribble", seeing as how we didn't actually have a game to talk about. Nevertheless we were a tightly knit community. Coincidentally, some of the most revered people in this community came from that time or shortly after.
That said, who in the hell wants to go back to that? That does not make any sense, and I for one have never said such a thing. And we did have moderators then. Good moderators. whitti, Venge, etc. Unfortunately they became inactive (whitti quit and Venge was working, and the others were never active) and we more or less had to do our own form of moderation.
In conclusion, your ill-conceived bashing of a time you were not around for proves just why you're on Mogura-levels of moderation.
Wow. What part of "we need to be nice here" don't you understand?
Wait, I know what this is all about. You don't like Neko and his moderating skills, so how ironic that you would post in "we need to be nice here" thread a nitpicky post about what he said. Your to sensitive Kiern. You stated that once about me and now I am returning the favor. Maybe you should not take peoples posts to heart so much.
[Edit] Oh and I completely agree with tuxides original post. I think we could all benift from being a little nice to one and other. We won't be driving our mods so crazy with having to put their foot down if we did.
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Wow. What part of "we need to be nice here" don't you understand?
The part where there is reasoning for "needing to be nice". Even neko himself said that's not true. Why should I be nice to people I don't like? I have to do that all the time at my job, it's in no way relaxing and often-times things turn out worse because of it. And I'm here to relax during my off time. If you see me invading fun topics with insulting posts, then I can understand your problem. But I've never replied to something that wasn't there.
Wait, I know what this is all about. You don't like Neko and his moderating skills, so how ironic that you would post in "we need to be nice here" thread a nitpicky post about what he said. Your to sensitive Krien. You stated that once about me and now I am returning the favor. Maybe you should not take peoples posts to heart so much.
The guy completely bashed not only the forums of that time, but all the members of the community then. Some of which were good friends of mine. Simply because some of the present day 2002ers happen to annoy him. Which I'm not even sure if there's anyone included in that besides me, but I'm not going to make assumptions about that.
I wasn't going to say a word until I saw his post. And I'm the one at fault here? Of course I am. Because I'm Kiern. And he's going to be taken as an authority on the topic even though HE WAS NOT THERE. Simply because he's a moderator. Isn't there some sort of professionalism that goes along with that? Isn't that what a whole other topic was about? And then all I get in response is an innocuous statement that has nothing to do with the topic. If you're going to make a statement like that at least back it up.
Whatever. zorbels, I understand what you're trying to say. And I appreciate the way you said it. But it is what it is. Just remember I'm not the one who brought it up.
....edited many times.
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These forums are a lot better than they were before. If you don't notice that, it's because you never have read threads from the guild forums of olden. Our moderators are currently more active and competent and I say that because it is visible. Again, I speak of the Guild Forums... The rest of the forums are too boring for me to care. But I've also noticed less "I'm leaving because you suck" and "The community is rotten" threads, so that must mean it's a general change.
Obviously these and other touchy topics are bound to sprout from times to times, as people are never glad with what they have. And that's just fine with me, because it keeps that dynamic disagreement and rethorical dispute I so much enjoy!
It's normal that being nice helps everyone. But does this help actually pays up, or would we rather have fun or benefit from putting other people down?
Tuxide has claimed that we need to be nice to others. However I have seen him more than once put the DE down casually. In the end, I don't think we'll ever be nice to everyone or mean to everyone. We'll keep choosing the proportions as its best (more entertaining/useful) for us. Limits should be traced though. And as a related note, Tuxide's jokes are well within the limits. :P
Kiern, the forums moderators have an objective job and they do it. If the players do not appreciate it they should mention it to the authority capable of fixing it. If many players manifest themselves, than it should be fixed. If it's not, then people can either settle up with it or change game.
If only a couple of players are upset... Well, bad luck for them. Better them than the rest of us.
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These forums are a lot better than they were before. If you don't notice that, it's because you never have read threads from the guild forums of olden. Our moderators are currently more active and competent and I say that because it is visible. Again, I speak of the Guild Forums... The rest of the forums are too boring for me to care. But I've also noticed less "I'm leaving because you suck" and "The community is rotten" threads, so that must mean it's a general change.
Kiern, the forums moderators have an objective job and they do it. If the players do not appreciate it they should mention it to the authority capable of fixing it. If many players manifest themselves, than it should be fixed. If it's not, then people can either settle up with it or change game.
If only a couple of players are upset... Well, bad luck for them. Better them than the rest of us.
To be fair, no one said the forums used to be better. I certainly never did, never have, and never will. neko brought that up. Basically the community was made up of those who stuck around longer than a month.. And there was certainly no "oldbies vs. newbies". At least not to the extent there is today. Even people like cm were a part of it. So no, it wasn't better community-wise.
And as for the rest of your post, historically that's been proven to be incorrect. I'd elaborate but we'd further stray from the original topic. The only thing I take issue with is the careless bashing of former PS members for no apparent reason by an authority figure. As I said, Mogura-levels. Whether or not that's an actual insult depends on who you are.
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Aaah, So yo counter-bash that authority figure by saying it's a Mogura-level. Context wise learns me that's bad. :whistling:
:lol: :flowers:
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Aaah, So yo counter-bash that authority figure by saying it's a Mogura-level. Context wise learns me that's bad. :whistling:
:lol: :flowers:
There's a reason I'm not a moderator. ;)
But really, it depends on what your opinion of her as a moderator was. There's no doubt her personality was a good one. I'm just saying their ways of doing things are incredibly similar.
I think, though, it's quite obvious not being "nice enough" isn't the problem. If there even is one. Sometimes people are nice, sometimes they're not. It's just the way it goes.
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Here's my input: I do agree that some posters need to be nicer, but I also think people just need to roughen up. Some of y'all are pathetic and overly-sensitive, which can make you a really nice person, but those are not good qualities for someone on an online forum. Some people feel like they can be as rude as they want since they know they'll never meet the person they're bashing/insulting/whatever. But sometimes you overly-sensitive people take things way too seriously, even just a simple joke. Even if you're sensitive, it shouldn't matter, because this is the internet and yadda-yadda. So, yeah, everyone just needs to lighten up and stop taking everything so sensitively.
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Here's my input: I do agree that some posters need to be nicer, but I also think people just need to roughen up. Some of y'all are pathetic and overly-sensitive, which can make you a really nice person, but those are not good qualities for someone on an online forum. Some people feel like they can be as rude as they want since they know they'll never meet the person they're bashing/insulting/whatever. But sometimes you overly-sensitive people take things way too seriously, even just a simple joke. Even if you're sensitive, it shouldn't matter, because this is the internet and yadda-yadda. So, yeah, everyone just needs to lighten up and stop taking everything so sensitively.
I agree. None of the extremes should be around: no overly sensitive people and no rude people.
These forums are a lot better than they were before. If you don't notice that, it's because you never have read threads from the guild forums of olden. Our moderators are currently more active and competent and I say that because it is visible. Again, I speak of the Guild Forums... The rest of the forums are too boring for me to care. But I've also noticed less "I'm leaving because you suck" and "The community is rotten" threads, so that must mean it's a general change.
Kiern, the forums moderators have an objective job and they do it. If the players do not appreciate it they should mention it to the authority capable of fixing it. If many players manifest themselves, than it should be fixed. If it's not, then people can either settle up with it or change game.
If only a couple of players are upset... Well, bad luck for them. Better them than the rest of us.
To be fair, no one said the forums used to be better. I certainly never did, never have, and never will. neko brought that up. Basically the community was made up of those who stuck around longer than a month.. And there was certainly no "oldbies vs. newbies". At least not to the extent there is today. Even people like cm were a part of it. So no, it wasn't better community-wise.
And as for the rest of your post, historically that's been proven to be incorrect. I'd elaborate but we'd further stray from the original topic. The only thing I take issue with is the careless bashing of former PS members for no apparent reason by an authority figure. As I said, Mogura-levels. Whether or not that's an actual insult depends on who you are.
You were speaking of the past and so I spoke about it too.
About Mogura levels... Mogura completely went unnoticed by me, much like I don't pay much attention to what Neko does. I consider this as them doing a great job not upsetting me with their moderation. ^^
Personally I don't think it makes sense to criticize people from the past just like I don't think it makes sense defending them. They can only be used as examples, besides that there's very little relevance to them.
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Hmm. Tuxide, we may have to revise the topic to "Don't be an ass" since "Be nice" is beyond the capacity for some here.
About the forum in the past? Don't care. Don't care if it was filled by Mother Theresas or Genghis Khans. Simply does not matter. Should not have been brought up, should not have been blown up into a hissy fit. Way to go in turning a relatively positive feeling 'tongue in cheek' thread into a negative quagmire. I am disappointed in of both of you.
Neko, please avoid comparing things now to things in the past. That hardly ever turns out good. And as said, it does not matter.
Waterman, I suggest you edit your sig to say, "Not coming back until I have a better attitude."
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Raa I have a suggestion, try to be kind. Remember there is a real person behind both the character in game and the one typing here in the forums. As for your statement ‘lighten up’ I suggest you take it a little more seriously because people do have feelings. Besides that I think it is better to be ‘nice’ then not.
/me smiles
I must say I think Under the moon does sound angry. I am surprised.
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because this is the internet
I use(d) to roam in other forums and ircs, and I just cant second that. Of course this is just nothing but a question of what forums and communities to visit, but saying this is the internet, so roughen up because rudeness, immaturity or reckless people have to be found is put plainly not true.
But still what you say is actually pretty interesting: I for one dont participate these forums very actively since in my eyes it lacks the spirit of a real community. In many cases people apparently simply need to profile and show up, most of the time with rather doubtful arguments.
I dont intent to change anything about it, as I want to play the game and use its communication methods which is great fun per se.
What is a sure thing though is, that the very majority in these forums are very cooperative, kind and helpful. So just keep it up!
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Looking at the thread's topic again .. seems like it proves itsself lol No one will ever agree with everyone, so why must some people trying to argue or cause a hostile atmosphere by maybe unreasoned constant opposing or simply arrogant arguments? Guys really, make your mind up and accept and tolerate others opinions for a change...
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Good job Velh, actually a great job. Your words are perfect! A lesson to be learned. We should read it and again re-read it.
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The past is there to be used as examples and to be reflected upon for when taking actions in the present that will reflect outcomes in the future.
If you do not wish me to make remarks on past events, then perhaps we should have acraig change the forum rules to have it auto purge everything older than 6 months on a nightly basis. Then there will be no using the past as examples. :)
I've never had an issue with Keirn. At least, I don't recall ever having an issue with them. I actually respect their opinions just as much as everyone else that has shown that they are willing to put time and effort towards this project.
In the past, people like ct and Link and co., made this place, very ... interesting, for lack of a better word. That isn't to say that over the years, there hasn't been any more bad apples pop up, but since a well staffed team of moderators and admins came on the scene, things have improved around here.
It's simply my personal opinion that the state of the community that uses these forums now, is more open to differing opinions from other users, and more welcoming to others' ideas on subjects than what has been in the past. So to say, there are less bad apples now. :)
Which ties into my point that being nice is not necessarily a requirement, but tolerating the other forum users is.
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One thing is to post your points of view with sense of humor or without taking it too seriously, and that's the better way since, after all, this is just a game. But whether you admit it or not, what you post is a reflection of your character. It tells about your maturity level, it tells about your intelligence and your ability to listen to other arguments, etc.
Only a few sections of these forums are meant for IC entries. Posting somewhere else means that what you say comes from you, the person behind the character and it is read that way. So it's up to you to put yourself out there the way you are, but if you feel the need to hide behind a username to post opinions you wouldn't dare utter in person, then forum issues should be the least of your problems.
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Raa I have a suggestion, try to be kind. Remember there is a real person behind both the character in game and the one typing here in the forums. As for your statement ‘lighten up’ I suggest you take it a little more seriously because people do have feelings. Besides that I think it is better to be ‘nice’ then not.
/me smiles
I must say I think Under the moon does sound angry. I am surprised.
This is a perfect example of what I was saying. :P
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Which ties into my point that being nice is not necessarily a requirement, but tolerating the other forum users is.
That's what I meant as well. Tolerating and being nice are different things. It's silly to think we can have a forum where everyone gets along and walks hand in hand as it is silly to consider that everyone is free to speak their mind just as they wish and cause a ruckus simply because this is the internet.
All in all, this topic is pretty futile. We are discussing personal points of view (about needing to be nice here) instead of objective means to make the forum more stable. This is either because no one can come up with good content to help improve the community/forums or because we have reached the peak of improvement.
Maybe the best way is to warn people, whenever necessary, that they are being too sensitive or too rough. This would certainly reach more people than this thread.
One thing is to post your points of view with sense of humor or without taking it too seriously, and that's the better way since, after all, this is just a game. But whether you admit it or not, what you post is a reflection of your character. It tells about your maturity level, it tells about your intelligence and your ability to listen to other arguments, etc.
Only a few sections of these forums are meant for IC entries. Posting somewhere else means that what you say comes from you, the person behind the character and it is read that way. So it's up to you to put yourself out there the way you are, but if you feel the need to hide behind a username to post opinions you wouldn't dare utter in person, then forum issues should be the least of your problems.
In the OOC sections you shouldn't think about "keeping it real" but instead about giving good contribute to the conversation, whether you're a wimp behind a username or not. This is a game in project.
Not everyone should be forced to be funny, mature or intelligent. This would make the forums, and life generally, a major boredom. Then again, that's just what I think and therefore completely irrelevant here. <.<
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All right, I'll drop this. I just wanted another viewpoint on the topic of 2002 known, by someone who was actually there. Just so that neko's word isn't taken as the authority on the issue. Both the present and the past had benefits and negatives to them. But I can say for a fact that there were some great people back then around here.
Hmm. Tuxide, we may have to revise the topic to "Don't be an ass" since "Be nice" is beyond the capacity for some here.
About the forum in the past? Don't care. Don't care if it was filled by Mother Theresas or Genghis Khans. Simply does not matter. Should not have been brought up, should not have been blown up into a hissy fit. Way to go in turning a relatively positive feeling 'tongue in cheek' thread into a negative quagmire. I am disappointed in of both of you.
Neko, please avoid comparing things now to things in the past. That hardly ever turns out good. And as said, it does not matter.
Waterman, I suggest you edit your sig to say, "Not coming back until I have a better attitude."
Wow, ok. I'm not sure it's possible to be so arrogant and be wrong, so your wish is my command.
EDIT: For the record....You answered "yes" to 14 of 100 questions, making you 86.0% nice and pure; that is, you are 86.0% pure in the niceness domain
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You answered "yes" to 23 of 100 questions, making you 77.0% nice pure (23.0% nice corrupt); ::|
lies i say lies!
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You answered "yes" to 53 of 100 questions, making you 47.0% nice pure (53.0% nice corrupt); that is, you are 47.0% pure in the niceness domain.
:whistling:
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You answered "yes" to 7 of 100 questions, making you 93.0% nice pure (7.0% nice corrupt); that is, you are 93.0% pure in the niceness domain.
According to the scoring guide, your niceness experience level is: Nice... Ok, you are probably really nice, or a liar, if you scored this high. If you are really this nice, then you rule. Good job. If you lied on the questions, then go take the test again. That's really stupid. But anyway, this is just an indicator, so take from it what you will. =)
wow....I thought I was nice, but not that nice!
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I am sorry but I have to post my thoughts on these quotes ....
But sometimes you overly-sensitive people take things way too seriously, even just a simple joke.
Annnnnnnd sometimes you rough skinned posters take things to much like a joke. Seriously. You can't just shrug your shoulders and claim the best answer is to toughen up. Otherwise we would all be the same and life would be boring. Besides I find most of the time the posters who claim to be hard and tough skinned actually aren't in RL and just hide behind that whole attitude.
Even if you're sensitive, it shouldn't matter, because this is the internet and yadda-yadda. So, yeah, everyone just needs to lighten up and stop taking everything so sensitively.
How would you like it if I told you you need to be more sensitive because I say so? That is basically what your saying only opposite. Come on Raa, ya this is the internet but people still feel. Some are just better at not letting things get to them than others. This being the internet shouldn't be an excuse to not pay attention to other peoples feelings or minding your manners when posting. Especially if you know the person is sensitive. If you have any respect for that poster or even yourself you will not go out of your way to be an ass. Rather you will take time to word your posts in such a way that you know can't be taken in the wrong way.
@everyone: As they say "it take two to fight." So if one poster is being to sensitive then maybe the other poster can be a little more considerate of that. As well as the other way around. Then maybe the mods can relax a little and we won't have so many rules being enforced when it comes to these forums.
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Raa in some ways we are like a big family. I wonder why you cannot just be part of it and be nice like everyone else. Truly I think you do not fit in. As far I am concerned your picking on Zorbels who I am so happy has returned to our family is just pitiful. Have you considered that your behavior could make people leave the game? We do not want that. I for one want our family to stay together.
Zorbels you do well on your own and do not need me to defend you but I felt I had to say something.
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No, because I'm just that terrible of a person. Since when did you get the idea I want to be in your silly family?
X-/
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If you do not wish to tolerate the opinions of others and give them respect, then I can show you the door in which you entered these forums and kindly ask you to leave.
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This doesn't have to get so personal, Neko. I'm barely the cause of this problem. And since when did you tolerate the opinions of others? Don't get angry because I hate Naruto... But that's completely off topic. Just get back to the previous discussion and forget I was here.
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This doesn't have to get so personal, Neko. I'm barely the cause of this problem. And since when did you tolerate the opinions of others? Don't get angry because I hate Naruto... But that's completely off topic. Just get back to the previous discussion and forget I was here.
He wasn't refering to Naruto or your opinion of it. I highly doubt he is sitting there upset because you don't like something he does. :whistling: That would be really silly and almost .... well teen like.
His problem is exactly what his post states Raa. Good grief! ::)
/me tries to forget Raa was here
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Meh, nice try at the bad ass thing Raa, we all know you're a softy who can't live without us. :love:
*Listbard gives Raa a hoooooooge kiss.*
Btw, I've been sending people who I deem to be all wound up with stress hoooge hugs, as my way to fight jerkism.
Also, neko, I liked your evil cowboy be bop siggy... It was hot.
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...I have but two things to say. One, I love you all :love: :whistling:
Two: Read my blasted sig, and LEARN IT BY HEART :innocent:
I mean, really, near as I can tell all this topic's supposed to be is a cup of cheer and a friendly advisor to get along and play nice. No harm in it, no stubbed toes, so why get worked up? Nothing personal is being directed at anyone. Chillax, grab thyself a warm mug, and enjoy!
/me walks away laughing... *
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Hmm I didn't take the quiz so I answered yes to 0 out of 100. Does that make me the epitome of niceness?
Oh well I still don't get what the ruckus is all about but I did not quite catch that the initial post was tongue in cheek as subsequently advertised. Just so ya know....
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Hello, thanks for the many responses on this thread, and I'm sorry I've been inactive (I have real life, you know). After reading over some of the comments, it's apparent that I don't think we're being nice enough here people, and uhh we all need to work harder. Why all the comments about individuals? There's no reason to attack someone's person, if you have a comment to make then say it about the content of the post instead of the person writing it. An example:
...this topic is pretty futile.
OK.
Tuxide, your thread sucks and so does your sig
Wrong. No one likes to be on the defensive, and no one likes to be attacked in public either. If you need to get personal with someone, then get your own room or use PM. So we all know one thing we can do to be nicer, but don't let that stop you from finding other ways, everyone!
-> Damn good policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:PA)
Oh well I still don't get what the ruckus is all about but I did not quite catch that the initial post was tongue in cheek as subsequently advertised. Just so ya know....
Oh yeah the conversation UTM and I had on the IRC fan channel, I should probably post it...hrm, nah I'll do it later, allow the suspense to build :P
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We love Planeshift. There are some that make this game their lives. Planeshift is what we all have in common. Whether you no longer play anymore or not many people still visit our forums. There is no question that the people are passionate about the game and it community. What we need to do is try to get along here and in game. The arguing that goes on sometimes between people seems to be quite hurtful. This one does not like that one for some reason or this one just wants to be mean for no reason other then to just be mean.
When I first started to read the forums I looked mainly at the stories. Reading them showed me the passion and genuine love people had for the game. Remember others look at our forums to see if Planeshift might be a game they want to play. I wish that swear words not be used. I wish that the personal vendettas not be brought out in public for all to see.
I want to again remind everybody there is a person behind the keyboard and respect is due each and every one of us. Each person contributes something to this game and without him or her there would be no game. Therefore the deliberate nasty and horrible behavior is totally uncalled for.
My feelings are that we are so lucky to have this game that brings all of us from around the world together we should try harder to make it the best situation for all. Please continue to be passionate about our game and its community; just do it with a smile so no one is hurt.
On a personal note: I lost a dear friend due to a misunderstanding a good while ago. Always keep in mind that what we say is important and it should be said with grace, kindness and compassion for all concerned. Hopefully this is a lesson learned and we can try to get along better.
Thank you all for listening to me.
Most Sincerely,
Leama
(Maybe this goes along with what Tuxide had to say but I wanted to put in my own 2 cents)