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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mordaan on October 14, 2009, 10:54:40 pm
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Ok the Explorers next fair in our monthly series will be a poetry fair, to be held Saturday, October 24, 2009. This time we are joining forces with fellow OSP members, the Red Crystal Organization. The official announcement is here (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.0).
We have a choice of two venues for the fair, one being the Outpost...where all the fairs have been held. And the other is the Red Crystal Den. Each offers some advantages. The Outpost is where all the fairs are held and reading poetry around the camp fire in the wilderness sounds ideal. But the Den has a stage and is in a more convenient location.
So thoughts?
Also, who would be interested in attending?
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I chose the red crystal den. It has a stage, drinks, atmosphere and the setting is just right. I will be attending, of course.
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ignore this post. sorry!
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How about a vote for both the Den and the Outpost?
What if we had the main event at the 1800 UTC on the 24th at the Den, and Thoss could have a little gathering at the Outpost at 0500 UTC on the 25th (Midnight 24th)?
That is, if there are others whose available game time falls at such strange hours as mine... ::|
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What if we had the main event at the 1800 UTC on the 24th at the Den, and Thoss could have a little gathering at the Outpost at 0500 UTC on the 25th (Midnight 24th)?
That is, if there are others whose available game time falls at such strange hours as mine... ::|
Sure, no reason we can't have a split event to accomodate different time zones. :)
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I would prefer to do the Poetry Fair at the outpost, mostly for some OOC reasons. First we will have another event in the Den a week or two later. We are just waiting for some replies to know exactly what we will do there. Second I see it more as an explorer's event we are helping out with. It was the idea of the explorers and we only jumped in after we heard what the fair is about. The Den has some other difficulties as well, for example that we will need more staff to run it than the camp. And most important of course...Aiwendil loves the idea of poetry around the campfire.
Now to some organizational things:
How do you want to do the event?
My suggestion would be to display some books with poems, maybe on the table at the camp. The problem with this is that we will need an alt who guards the books all the time. But I think that shouldn't be much of a problem.
And as I am no writer at all it's easy for me to suggest this...but it would be great if we could find someone giving a lecture about the difficulties in writing poems. Not too long, or it gets boring. But I think this would fit in nicely.
And of course we will need people reading some poetry. The easiest way (At least for me as I can't write any on my own) would be to contact some well known poets in PlaneShift and ask them to read a few of their poems or at least for permission to read them ourselves. I bet we could convince Lhaa to read some...and Aiwendil wouldn't reject it either.
So...a few things to discuss if we do it in the explorer's camp:
Do we want a Bar? The RCO would be happy to provide drinks for this occasion of course. But if the RCO does this they will want to charge the customers for the drinks. I guess food is more easy, we should try to contact the Stonehead staff about this. Not that a lot of food is usually needed, but it's nice for some RP in advance of the event. And I think the Stonehead is the better choice as they offer their food for free. I'm not sure about the drinks...I think if the Stonehead can offer drinks in a high quantity for free it's a better choice there too. On the other hand...why not allow the RCO to earn a little bit of money there. And I think a bar with barkeepers is good for the atmosphere. Then we will need to play out the transporting of the food and drinks in advance to the event. We can do that already a day before. Oh..and if we ask the Stonehead for help we should include them in the announcement and posters for the event. Needs to be discussed.
What about guards? The RCO usually tries to assure that their artists safety is guaranteed (and of course also the safety of the audience). This will be much harder in the camp. I guess drawn weapons are allowed there. This means the guards might have to deal with more dangerous situations than the need of kicking out some drunkards. Could make it harder to find some. In the Den we don't allow any duels for our guards. Dangerous situations there are solved without any duels. Should it be handled like this during the event in the camp too? The problem I see with duels is that we only make it easier for players who only come there to mess up. And we will need at least one well trained guard if someone has the great idea to lure some monsters there. Sure, I could put some mana potions on Aiwendil and make her deal with this...but that would be only a OOC solution. She almost never shows her magic skills in public like this. On the other hand is luring monsters there a OOC problem for me as well...so maybe this could be an acceptable solution. And there is another problem...It's in the wildness...meaning the guards we provide are the only guards that are there, we have to deal with all troubles on our own. But the event being in wildness also means that we can maybe rely more on the audience. They came there and must know that it is more dangerous than a visit in the Den. So I hope we can count on some help from within the audience if problems occur. But I think this is important to discuss. The poets taking part will but some work in their performances, and I don't think it's very fair if we have to stop the event in the middle before everyone was able to do their performance just because someone wants to cause some troubles. Of course we have to allow players to RP making some IC troubles, but we should be prepared for this.
So my suggestion for the event:
- Greeting (Announcer)
- Pointing to the books and thanking the poets who contributed them (Announcer)
- The mandatory where to get drinks and that everyone should enjoy themselves (Announcer)
- Short break to allow people to look at the books and have some conversations
- If we find someone willing a short workshop on how to write poems (artist)
- break
- Announcing of poet (Announcer)
- Reading of poems, either by the poets themselves or with permission by someone else (artist)
- short break, then repeating the previous two point with all the poets we have
- Thank you and good bye (Announcer)
People we will need for this:
- Announcer - My suggestion would be Mordaan for this.
- Poets/Reader - At least three would be nice here
- Lector - Not necessary of course...nice to have
- Guard for the books - any alt will do (I guess I can provide an alt for this)
- Guards - We should have at least two guards around to protect the poets and audience
- Barkeeper ? - I think two of these would be nice too. (Backup: Lhaa/Aiwendil)
Having more people is always good. There will be always some RL issues turning up and someone can't show up...so some backup is maybe a good idea.
ToDo List:
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this.
- A poster for the forums *looks with puppy eyes at Lhaa*
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC)
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC)
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better)
And please allow me a few last words. I personally don't like discussing an event like this in a public forum. Making a poll like this forces us to deal with the opinions of all players. I appreciate their input, but in the end I think it's far more important what the people involved in an event (in this event namely the poets) think. They are the once who do the work for this event so they should decide where we run it.
Edits: typos
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And please allow me a few last words. I personally don't like discussing an event like this in a public forum. Making a poll like this forces us to deal with the opinions of all players. I appreciate their input, but in the end I think it's far more important what the people involved an event (in this event namely the poets) think. They are the once who do the work for this event so they should decide where we run it.
First of all, yes, it took me a while to understand even what the hell was going on. ;)
I think this could have been done differently. I'm unaware of whether Mordaan was asked about making a poll or not, but none of the RCO members were asked even if this thread should be opened. But, considering we are meant to organize part of it I wouldn't have minded to know at least that a public discussion was going to be started about it.
Now, I don't think this is the right place to discuss the event's organization but if it's the way it has to be done, so be it.
I will start a thread in the RCO forums so that our staff can apply there (I don't keep track of who and who not uses these forums) and keep this thread updated in terms of staff. I will also make a poster for this and post it as soon as I have it.
What if we had the main event at the 1800 UTC on the 24th at the Den, and Thoss could have a little gathering at the Outpost at 0500 UTC on the 25th (Midnight 24th)?
That is, if there are others whose available game time falls at such strange hours as mine... ::|
Sure, no reason we can't have a split event to accomodate different time zones. :)
I don't mind having a split event, but nobody of the RCO will make it at 0500 UTC.
Also, 1800 UTC is too early for us. I'd say the event should happen (and so that US players also get a not too early chance) from 2000 to 2100 UTC.
As to where to make it happen. I'd say the Outpost provided that we haven't been able to fetch a guard even for a single shift in the past days so I don't think we will have enough for the Den in such short notice. The poetry reading around the fire will be nice as well and if I have to make the poster soon then we need to as well fix a time and date soon (or I can leave this out of the poster and whoever posts the final one in the Message Boards includes an OOC typed line with the date and time).
I bet we could convince Lhaa to read some...and Aiwendil wouldn't reject it either.
Hehe you can be sure of this. Also, Illysia already accepted having some of her poems read in the Fair. And I've got the books... ;)
Do we want a Bar? The RCO would be happy to provide drinks for this occasion of course. But if the RCO does this they will want to charge the customers for the drinks. I guess food is more easy, we should try to contact the Stonehead staff about this.
We do want a bar. The barkeep can guard tables and exposed drinks/food so long as he/she doesn't have to move. If we don't get barkeeps and Aiwendil/Lhaa have to do it, then we have to make sure thet they either read the poems from close enough to the bar, or we need an alt to also guard this instead. Having an alt for the bar and one for the books shouldn't be a problem anyway, unless we have a server crash. ;)
About the prices: I don't see what's the big deal of charging for food/drinks. We aren't asking people to pay thousands for it. Even a player who just got out of the tutorial can buy a few dozens of drinks with those prices. Of course we can talk with the SH and have they serve the food, but I don't see a problem with using the Den's one food and event prices.
In the Den we don't allow any duels for our guards. Dangerous situations there are solved without any duels. Should it be handled like this during the event in the camp too? The problem I see with duels is that we only make it easier for players who only come there to mess up. And we will need at least one well trained guard if someone has the great idea to lure some monsters there. Sure, I could put some mana potions on Aiwendil and make her deal with this...but that would be only a OOC solution. She almost never shows her magic skills in public like this. On the other hand is luring monsters there a OOC problem for me as well...so maybe this could be an acceptable solution.
So long as the RCO guards the event, no dueling at all. RP-fights will do to deal with the annoyances. For a start, chances are that the guards we get don't have really trained chars. ;)
And yes please, have some mana potions and deal with the lured monsters if there's any. The solution is as OOC as the luring, so again, I don't see a problem there.
So my suggestion for the event:
- Greeting (Announcer)
- Pointing to the books and thanking the poets who contributed them (Announcer)
- The mandatory where to get drinks and that everyone should enjoy themselves (Announcer)
- Short break to allow people to look at the books and have some conversations
- If we find someone willing a short workshop on how to write poems (artist)
- break
- Announcing of poet (Announcer)
- Reading of poems, either by the poets themselves or with permission by someone else (artist)
- short break, then repeating the previous two point with all the poets we have
- Thank you and good bye (Announcer)
A lot of breaks, after what happened in the break of the fashion parade I'm not so sure if they are good at all. I'd rather keep running whatever has to run and players can or not decide if they want to step aside a bit to relax or just chat.
I'd rather have it like this:
- Greeting - Pointing to the books and thanking the poets who contributed them - Say where to get drinks and enjoy themselves (Announcer)
- Short break to allow people to look at the books and have some conversations
- If we find someone willing a short workshop on how to write poems (artist)
- Announcing of poet (Announcer)
- Reading of poems, either by the poets themselves or with permission by someone else (artist)
- Repeating the previous two points with all the poets we have
- Thank you and good bye (Announcer)
IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food
Not necessary in my opinion, but can do that.
Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better)
As mentioned above, Illysia already accepted, but I don't think we can get her IG to do that IC. I can only think of Jaycol as of now seeing the active players, but seeing that this thread is open... maybe somebody wants to apply here. Any "new" poets will be warmly welcome.
IC talk with Mordaan about all this.
Most important. ;)
And some OOC talking wouldn't hurt either.
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I will write and present a poem. Do I qualify?
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My apologies to Aiwendil and Lhaa. I should have checked with you before posting...my bad. :-[
I started a discussion thread for the cooking fair so decided to do one for this as well. Both to serve as advertising of the event and to have a place for feedback.
As far as drinks, Explorers have no problem providing the simple drinks...beer, red, etc... freely. As for guards that's probably something I need to organize...our other events didn't consider this and they went off without a hitch...but we probably shouldn't rely on luck. Although not having guards may have helped the Jacula RP develop. ;)
But I have no problems hosting it at the Outpost. The poll was Thoss's idea, he was only trying to help. Sorry for any miscommunications. Just goes to show you you guys are much better at organizing than I am. ;)
And yes, I am thinking that anyone who wants to attend and read a poem may do so.
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Aiwendil, Lhaa, I'll volunteer my character for a guard. I think I can make it. oh and she's stronger than that noob Hevore you hired xP
btw I really doubt anyone's going to cause trouble (rp wise). too large a crowd, and you don't want to mess with that many people in lawless territory.
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I really doubt anyone's going to cause trouble
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
You're funny.
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I really doubt anyone's going to cause trouble
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
You're funny.
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wtf you on, Timmothy?
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Life. I'm high on life.
and shrooms
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I vote the red crystal den, they have a stage and lots of seats. I also like the ambiance of the place ^____^
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I don't care where. As long as it happens! :D
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We discussed it last night and turns out the Den is not the ideal place for various reasons.
So we are going to have it at the Outpost.
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Event time
Okay, first of all we need to be very careful with the time at this event. I have no clue how it is in other countries, but in Germany we change back to wintertime on the 25th of October. So I guess there might be some countries which already have wintertime there. I think a link to a timezone converter (http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc) won't hurt this time.
Use "/shout"
To another, very important point, that mainly concerns the poets. Please prepared the poems in shortcuts. And if you do please add a "/shout" to each line. The camp is pretty large and without the "/shout" a lot people won't be able to hear your poem. This applies to all lines belonging to the performance. "/shout" also works together with "/me", so if you do any emotes while performing please shout them too. This is only to deal with the limited saying-range in PS. I see no problem with something like "/shout /me lowers his voice, going on almost whispering...". And yes, I know that bdroad2 is not an as small map as the guildsimple and that shouts will cover a much larger area there and should be prevented if possible. But I still think that it is acceptable and that people passing by the event on the way to the fortress shouldn't be to offended by a few shouts of poems.
Give people time to read
The problem with shortcuts is that it's easy to shoot them too fast. So I would recommend reading each of your own shortcut lines twice before shooting the next one. People listening are maybe not native English, slow readers (or like me both) or busy with another conversation. So give them time.
Posters
Draft for the Job-offering poster:
To prepare the Poetry fair at the Explorer's outpost we are looking for some strong man helping us to carry a few barrels there. This needs to be done at the [23th of October]. Interesting people should please contact the Explorers or some of the Red Crystal Staff. Of course we will pay you for the effort.
I have no idea about the payment. 50 liquor, 50 Cider, 50 beer have a value of 4000 tria for us (with event prices). a quarter of this we have to spend for buying them. And as we all know we will never sell them all. So a realistic payment can't be more than one circle...But we know the PS players....nobody will work for this, not even for the fun. So I have no idea and am open for everything there.
Draft for the event poster:
The Explorers
and
The Red Crystal Organization
present
The Poetry Fair
You have a weakness for poetry? You know about the power of words and their beauty? Then visit the Explorer's outpost on the [24th of October at 6PM GMT] for our Poetry Fair. We will have several poets presenting their work and of course we will also provide the guest with food and drinks.
We thank the Stonehead tavern for supplying us with food.
When is the event? I think 6PM GMT is too early and would guest it at least one hour later, preferable two hours. This would allow more US timezone people to come to the event.
I would post the job offering in the hydlaa and Gugrontid message board. The Event poster should go to those two as well and to the event thread (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.0).
ToDo list
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - pending (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- A poster for the forums - I know, not very creative draft from me, but I hope you can do something with it Lhaa (Lhaa)
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - OOC talk with Elady done, Mordaan will do the IC part (Elady/Mordaan)
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - draft for the poster ready, let's see if we can get anyone to do it (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Sarras - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Stelanso - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet.
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.0) for the help with the food - Not done yet (Mordaan)
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - Posters not ready yet, we need the forum posters first and use them as draft for the in-game books. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
I included the names of the people in the tasks. Some tasks we didn't discuss yet, so I included the names of those that seems most appropriate for these. Please post if I forgot anything in the list or if one of the tasks is finished.
Edit: typos
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Thank you Sarras and Beronden for applying here. I have added you to the staff list, here goes the updated one:
- Announcer - Mordaan
- Poets/Reader - Lace, Beronden, Jonoth?, Awendil/Lhaa (backups)
- Lector - None
- Guards - Remyl, Anaros, Sarras, Suati (unconfirmed)
- Barkeeper - Stelanso, Haraun/Lhaa/Aiwendil (backups)
- Carriers - None
I have no idea about the payment. 50 liquor, 50 Cider, 50 beer have a value of 4000 tria for us (with event prices). a quarter of this we have to spend for buying them. And as we all know we will never sell them all. So a realistic payment can't be more than one circle...But we know the PS players....nobody will work for this, not even for the fun. So I have no idea and am open for everything there.
The payment is quite irrelevant since very few people will care about any reward that makes sense IC-wise. But to make it a bit fancier, let's say we can pay two circles each. On the other hand, the Den looses income every single shift, so it's not that we aren't used to red numbers. ;)
So here goes the poster:
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7312/fairjoboffer.png)
The Fair's poster is kind of ready, but won't be finished until we can set a time.
Again, I think the most feasible time is 2000 or 2100 UTC, usually when there are more players online, including most of our staff.
Updated ToDo list:
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - pending (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- A poster for the forums - Fair poster almost finished, needs time and posting. (Lhaa)
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - OOC talk with Elady done, Mordaan will do the IC part (Elady/Mordaan)
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - Job poster ready, needs to be posted. Added category to the staff list (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Sarras - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Stelanso - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet.
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.0) for the help with the food - Not done yet (Mordaan)
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - Posters not ready yet, we need the forum posters first and use them as draft for the in-game books. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
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Thanks Lhaa, job poster looks great. And sure, two circles are still fine. Post it in the message boards?
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Sounds like I should take part in the barrel race...
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Then say you will, Ligh, IG. Else there is no way for us to tell which char you are going to use, and even less for our characters to know about it. ;)
I've posted the job posters in the Hydlaa and Gugrontid message boards:
Hydlaa Message Board (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=25642.msg411293#new)
Gugrontid Message Board (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=31986.msg411292#new)
Another thing we have to think about that came up to mind:
Will the Stonehead cater their food or will the RCO be responsible of handing it over?
Unless the food is spread around we will need to make a list with whatever food we have, so that people knows what can they ask for.
For sure, we will need a new list, considering these:
Options we have:
1 - Make two lists; one with the food, another with the drinks.
2 - Make only one list, removing prices for food.
3 - Spread the food on the tables and make only one list for the drinks.
Things we will need:
- Make a new list considering the reply to the points above.
- Unless 3 is the reply, a list of all the food the Stonehead will bring.
The main Fair poster is ready:
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8812/poetryfairposter.png)
I set the time at 8PM UTC, but it can still be changed, it takes me 5 minutes to do that and upload a new poster.
Just wanted to post it now so that the Explorers give their approval/dimissal.
Please lets set up a time quickly, we have only a week to announce the event.
Updated ToDo list:
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - pending (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- A poster for the forums - Fair poster above, needs only a fixed time (Lhaa)
- Sort the lists for the bar - Need to know if the Stonehead will cater, then make the lists in that regard (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - OOC talk with Elady done, Mordaan will do the IC part (Elady/Mordaan)
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - Job offer POSTED (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Sarras - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Stelanso - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet.
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.0) for the help with the food - Not done yet (Mordaan)
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - Posters not ready yet, we need the forum posters first and use them as draft for the in-game books. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
Changed both entries regarding posters.
Added entry about the bar lists.
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At past events at the Outpost we have just spread out all the food on the tables and let people sit down and dig in as they wish.
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Options we have:
1 - Make two lists; one with the food, another with the drinks.
2 - Make only one list, removing prices for food.
3 - Spread the food on the tables and make only one list for the drinks.
Of course I would prefer 1 or 2. Those solutions would force people into some more RP and talking if they want the food. But if you always just put it on the tables in the past then let's keep on doing this. We still have the bar for the drinks. People usually drink much more than eat, so there will be still enough casual RP when ordering drinks. And it makes it far easier to handle the bar. With the food we would need some place to store it...I doubt the barkeepers could carry it all. So let's go for 3.
Edit: Oh sorry, and the poster is great too of course, but I alread saw it before and said this. Now we only need the time (and I think 8PM UTC is a good time) and we can post it.
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Thanks for the poster, Lhaa. Good work with those as always.
8PM UTC is fine. Now I just need to know the GMT and US equivalents. ;) :-[
Oh, and an IC discussion about catering with Elady is done. Check! :)
(I'll update the event thread)
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UTC is GMT. central time in US is -5 hours.
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UTC is GMT. central time in US is -5 hours.
Aiwendil mentioned it will be changing on Saturday? I dunno...it confuses me. I should probably just get rid of UTC. It just adds to the confusion.
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Real men use UTC.
Tell me Mordaan, are you a real man?
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It is confusing. The thing is that the time savings change seems to be this weekend in some places, and certainly close everywhere else. But I guess we can manage a bit of confusion for this one event. Shall I change the UTC in the poster to GMT? Apparently they are the same, anyway.
Thanks Mordaan and Elady, will update the ToDo list below.
Of course I would prefer 1 or 2. Those solutions would force people into some more RP and talking if they want the food. But if you always just put it on the tables in the past then let's keep on doing this. We still have the bar for the drinks. People usually drink much more than eat, so there will be still enough casual RP when ordering drinks. And it makes it far easier to handle the bar. With the food we would need some place to store it...I doubt the barkeepers could carry it all. So let's go for 3.
Okay, so no food list.
Here's the drinks list ready to be put in a book (yes, spacing looks nice IG and no scrolling happens ;).
-THE EXPLORERS GUILD-
-RED CRYSTAL ORGANIZATION-
- Alcoholic drinks -
Beer 20 Tria
Cider 20 Tria
Spirits 40 Tria
Wine 40 Tria
- Non-alcoholic drinks -
Water Pouch 12 Tria
Sweet Tinga Tea 60 Tria
Milk 40 Tria
Staff list:
- Announcer - Mordaan
- Poets/Reader - Lace, Beronden, Jonoth?, Awendil/Lhaa (backups)
- Lector - None
- Guards - Remyl, Anaros, Sarras, Suati (unconfirmed)
- Barkeeper - Stelanso, Haraun/Lhaa/Aiwendil (backups)
- Carriers - Caraick (unconfirmed)
ToDo list:
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - Hopefully on Monday (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- A poster for the forums - Fair poster almost finished, needs time and posting. (Lhaa)
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - DONE
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - Job offer POSTED (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Caraick - Applied IC (pending to see if his char will be healthy ;)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Sarras - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Stelanso - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet.
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread for the help with the food - DONE
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - Posters not ready yet, we need the forum posters first and use them as draft for the in-game books. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
are you a real man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n647NFloDA
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UTC is GMT. central time in US is -5 hours.
Aiwendil mentioned it will be changing on Saturday? I dunno...it confuses me. I should probably just get rid of UTC. It just adds to the confusion.
I think daylight savings time is over by then... or British summer time... or something like that? idk this is a crappy system. atm no one's on GMT/UTC, we're all an hour ahead.
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In-Game posters
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/450/poetryfairingameposter.png)
The Explorers
in collaboration with the
Red Crystal Organization
present the
Poetry Fair
Have a weakness for poetry?
Then visit the Explorers' Outpost on the [24th
of October at 8pm utc] for our Poetry Fair.
Several poets will present their works and
catering won't be missing!
Food provided by the Stonehead Tavern.
So, any picky comments from anyone who is not satisfied with the spacing or the layout. *looks at someone specific without mentioning any name*
Time
20:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in UTC converts to
- 20:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in GMT
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in CET
- 15:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in EST
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in MET
- 15:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/Chicago
- 14:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/Denver
- 16:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/Detroit
- 16:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/New_York
- 15:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/Mexico_City
- 16:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in America/Montreal
- 03:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Asia/Bangkok
- 04:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Asia/Hong_Kong
- 23:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Asia/Istanbul
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Asia/Jerusalem
- 04:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Asia/Shanghai
- 04:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Asia/Singapore
- 05:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Asia/Tokyo
- 07:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Australia/Sydney
- 15:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Canada/Central
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Amsterdam
- 23:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Athens
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Berlin
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Brussels
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Budapest
- 21:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Dublin
- 23:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Helsinki
- 23:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Kiev
- 21:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/London
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Madrid
- 00:00:00 Sunday October 25, 2009 in Europe/Moscow
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Oslo
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Paris
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Prague
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Rome
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Stockholm
- 22:00:00 Saturday October 24, 2009 in Europe/Vienna
ToDo list
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - Hopefully on Monday (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- A poster for the forums - Mordaan agreed on the time. Can be posted. (Lhaa)
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - DONE
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - Job offer POSTED (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Caraick - Applied IC (pending to see if his char will be healthy ;)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Sarras - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Stelanso - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet.
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread for the help with the food - DONE
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - Poster ready for review. If all agree Mordaan can contact the GMs about it. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
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Wow, your planning is so meticulous, you don't really see the effort till it's all posted up for everyone to see.
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I knew it...okay, second version after dealing with the picky comments (Yes, it really looks better this way, I know)
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7828/poetryfairingameposter2.png)
THE EXPLORERS
in collaboration with the
RED CRYSTAL ORGANIZATION
present the
POETRY FAIR
Have a weakness for poetry?
Then visit the Explorers' Outpost on the [24th
of October at 8pm utc] for our Poetry Fair.
Several poets will present their works and
catering won't be missing!
Food provided by the Stonehead Tavern.
Fine with this Mordaan? Then we should try to get them put up as soon as possible.
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Ok, looks great! I'll create the books and will look to get them but up in various places as soon as possible. Thanks again for your efforts.
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unfortunately I can't make it, sorry :(
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Just a short update on the ToDo list.
Posters posted in the event thread (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36135.msg411384#msg411384), the Hydlaa Message board (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=25642.msg411385#msg411385) and the Gugrontid Message board (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=31986.msg411386#msg411386).
ToDo list
- IC talk with Mordaan about all this - DONE
- A poster for the forums - DONE
- IC and OOC contact with the Stonehead about the food - DONE
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - Job offer POSTED (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Caraick - Applied IC (pending to see if his char will be healthy ;)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Remyl - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Jonoth - Applied OOCly, no IC talk done yet
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Including the Stonehead in the event thread for the help with the food - DONE
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - All agreed, so contact the GMs about it. I suggest 6 posters in hydlaa (each gate, Library, Harnquist, Kada El's, Red Crystal Den) and three in Gugrontid (Malco, Blacksmith, Stonehead tavern).(Mordaan)
Edit: changed the in-game posters point
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I would have applied for to read poetry, though if i were to do it, then i would like to have poems that are IC. I found out to late now to make all of the preparations and writing. I am not so sure about making shortcuts for saying things that consist of multiple quatrains/paragraphs, though i will be more than happy to attend. I wish that i could have done the poetry in time. :(
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I would have applied for to read poetry, though if i were to do it, then i would like to have poems that are IC. I found out to late now to make all of the preparations and writing. I am not so sure about making shortcuts for saying things that consist of multiple quatrains/paragraphs, though i will be more than happy to attend. I wish that i could have done the poetry in time. :(
Never too late! (Except after the 24th :P) I'm sure some great poems have been written in a fraction of the time and under much more adverse conditions. If you want to write a poem, go for it, don't let a short deadline hold you back. :)
Hmm...
"There once was a Kran from Nantucket..."
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"There once was a Kran from Nantucket..."
Oh dear....
Anyways, I'm not sure if I am able to make it. :( I'll be there if I can.
Dralion puts on her glasses and squints. "Now about those 5 different projects I have to do that are due next week...."
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I would have applied for to read poetry, though if i were to do it, then i would like to have poems that are IC. I found out to late now to make all of the preparations and writing. I am not so sure about making shortcuts for saying things that consist of multiple quatrains/paragraphs, though i will be more than happy to attend. I wish that i could have done the poetry in time. :(
Hey now, we aren't asking for novels now. ;)
You have time to write, a day should be enough for a poem. Or if you like to write often perhaps you can do the workshop we'd have liked to run if... any of the poets was a bit more active.
As for the shortcuts, we tend to use one per command but for poems I guess you can join a few every shortcut, just have to make sure (again) that you are slow enough for people to catch up and deal with all tabs while they read your poem. Would look something like this:
<shortcut01 name="POEM 1"><![CDATA[/shout line1
/shout line2
/shout line3
/shout line4]]></shortcut01>
<shortcut02 name="POEM 2"><![CDATA[/shout line1
/shout line2
/shout line3
/shout line4]]></shortcut02>
<shortcut03 name="POEM 3"><![CDATA[/shout line1
/shout line2
/shout line3
/shout line4]]></shortcut03>
...etc...
Staff list:
- Announcer - Mordaan
- Poets/Reader - Lace, Daichie, Beronden, Awendil/Lhaa (backups)
- Guards - Anaros, Suati/Hevore/Caraick (unconfirmed), Haraun (backup)
- Barkeeper - Stelanso, Domec, Lhaa/Aiwendil (backups)
- Lector - None
ToDo list:
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Caraick- Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Hevore- Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Daichie - DONE
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - DONE
- Domec - DONE
- Stelanso - DONE
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
- Asking GMs to fix poster for us - DONE
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Gag Harmond already offered support for e.g. carrying food IC (remember the fountain meeting, Lhaa).
:o Boy, this tea gets more expensive each day...
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Okay, we transported the drink to the camp. So everything is prepared now. I have a Kran alt there holding all the stuff.
And to make it clear, this is no RCO event. Of course all people who want to read a poem are welcomed to do so, even if they didn't apply. We only did the applying because we wanted to make sure to have at least some poets there. So if you have a poem ready in shortcuts feel free to come and read it.
For the event I suggest that we put all barkeepers, announcers, guards and poets in a OOC group to help with the organization. We used to do that in the Den for our events and it turned out to help a lot if people are poked OOCly as well before they should get on stage.
Seems we have to do without the Lector. Not really a problem, It was just a nice to have.
Staff list:
unconfirmed
- Announcer - Mordaan
- Poets/Reader - Lace, Daichie (unconfirmed), Beronden, Awendil/Lhaa (backups)
- Guards - Anaros, Suati (unconfirmed), Hevore (unconfirmed), Caraick (unconfirmed), Haraun (backup)
- Barkeeper - Stelanso, Domec, Lhaa/Aiwendil (backups)
- Lector - None
ToDo list:
- Hiring some people ICly to transport the food and drinks to the camp - DONE
- Finding guards (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Anaros - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Caraick- Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Hevore- Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done
- Suati - Applied OOCly, IC talk needs to be done (and not really sure if she has time)
- Finding poets (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - (Aiwendil/Lhaa)
- Beronden - Applied OOCly, IC talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Lace - Applied ICly, talk half done (needs more infos after the IC talk with Mordaan)
- Daichie - DONE (Not sure if he can make it)
- Finding barkeepers (if someone applies OOCly playing it out IC...otherwise preferable IC) - DONE
- Domec - DONE
- Stelanso - DONE
- Getting at least the OOC permission of some writers to read their poems (IC would be even better) - Illysia allowed us to read her poems OOCly (Aiwendil/Lhaa/Mordaan)
[edit: Forgot something, I will create an IRC channel for the event tomorrow in case of a server crash. I will post the channel name here after I created it]
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I have bad news. I am unable to attend and read my poetry. I am without internet at my home, unfortunately. Until this thursday.
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Funny - I can't find "lector" as english term in http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de ... but I believe that you guessed the german term to exist, as "publisher's editor".
It may not be the same ... but I will try to ensure that one of the Knowledge Seekers will be there, to offer authors a review of their poetry for Jayose's expanded library, if they like.
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Thanks to an anonymous messenger, I got sources of different meanings - e.g. a native speaking foreign language teacher, or a lesson reader in a church.
About Akkaido's remark below: Well, that could be even better matching.
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I assumed they mean "Lecturer", someone to give out a lecture on how to write PlaneShift poetry IC.
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Sorry, leo.org gave me this (http://dict.leo.org/?search=lector), so I used the word. But I'm not a native english speaker so I guess that was wrong ;).
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##PS-poetryfair @ irc.freenode.net
Seeing the server's health today, this may become a relevant tool. ;)
Now a little reminder of things to keep in mind for staff and performers:
Grouping:
We'll have a group IG for the people performing. The group is for organizing the event so once the event starts please keep it quiet unless you have something relevant to say in regard of the event. We don't want the ones performing to be switching tabs for no real reason, so don't make it flicker for the sake of it. ;)
Last minute performers:
No need to have applied to perform, just please send Mordaan a tell beforehand so that we can invite you to the group, and try to stick to these points for performers below as well.
Have shortcuts:
Not strictly necessary, but try to have your performance in shourtcuts. If you need help making them just ask us about it.
Use /shout
All your shortcuts or lines need to start with /shout. Don't forget "/shout /me" works now so this shouldn't be limiting you at all.
Pace:
Try to read what you posted at least twice before posting again. If there is much "noise" (people talks a lot or are reacting to your line) please wait a bit more, even. We want attendants to read what you post, not to ignore it because they can't do with all the tabs and the RP.
Event time:
Performers: It would be nice if you're in-game at least an hour before the event (so 7PM GMT) so that you can be grouped and hear what talks go on beforehand. This will save us some work repeating everything twice or thrice. ;)
Guards: Please be there before the event starts. This is not the Den so we'll need to have an (even if short) IC talk with your chars to explain the differences for this specific day's job.
Auction tab:
For this short while, we're going to use the Auction tab to put the OOC Announcements in. We don't mean it to be used for OOC banter, but simply so that we don't pollute Main with OOC shouts. If you need to, you can still use it IC for sales/whatever you have in mind.
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This was a little "cozy" group we had, and it was just the right number to gather around the fire pit. There have been interesting poems as well as surprising ones.
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That was a perfect event! Not too short and not too long \\o//
I am glad I could make it this time and it was perfect little group :D
And to the GMs: No more talking fish or beware Suati's dagger of death :devil:
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Thanks to all those who participated. It was a very nice event.
Here are some screenies:
(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/th_poetry-fair3.jpg) (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/?action=view¤t=poetry-fair3.jpg)
(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/th_poetry-fair4.jpg) (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/?action=view¤t=poetry-fair4.jpg)
(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/th_poetry-fair5.jpg) (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx212/nymb242/?action=view¤t=poetry-fair5.jpg)
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After Event discussion
Okay, we got through the event and it worked out...somehow. But in my opinion there were a lot flaws in it this time. So please allow me to address a few so that we can do it better next time:
Server downtime
It was really unfortunate that laanx went down for half a day before the event and only came back about 3 hours before the event started. I guess we have to put that in the category "bad luck". But it made it very difficult to get all setup in time and prevented some necessary IC talks which we had to do OOC to save some time. But something like this can always happen and I don't think there is much we can do about it.
Discussion in public
Having this discussion thread in public also led to some problems in my view. First of all the people knew already in advance what to expect. There wasn't much we could surprise them with except the content of the poems. But the major drawback for me was that a lot of players simply can't make a difference between IC and OOC knowledge. It was not nice to have characters ask Aiwendil about specific things discussed in this thread long before she even had the IC talk with Mordaan about the event. This lead to the strange situation in game that almost everyone seems to know better how the fair will work out than Aiwendil. What brings me to a very stupid mistake I made...Asking to post a poster IC (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=36134.msg411291#msg411291) before having done the IC talk about it was very stupid and only worsened the situation. My suggestion about this in the future is to keep discussions like this in private forums and only post the official announcements in the PS forum...and to kick me if I want to do something stupid again. And this leads to the next point...
In-game Posters
Where were our in-game posters? One day before the event I noticed a cooking fair poster at Kada El's, but no poster of the poetry fair. Also no poster at the Red Crystal Den...Not sure what went wrong there. Not that i think in-game posters are really important, but after putting some work in them I think we should have tried to get them put up...Or were they in other places? I think in the future we have to be more careful of what to mark as DONE in the ToDo-list. After one point in the list is marked as DONE we usually don't spent much time on thinking about it anymore...so things like this can happen.
Cancellation of players
This was very unfortunate this time as well. Of course we always have to count with people who have to cancel taking part in an event because of RL issues. There is nothing wrong with this...RL is always more important. But this time we really had some bad luck as almost all people who applied before had to cancel for some reasons. I'm not sure how to solve this the next time. The only thing I can think of is to get more people apply in advance and hope for better luck. But getting more people to apply is also not really an option seeing the lack of interest of players to take part in such events. But this led to Lhaa and Aiwendil having to read two poems each just to fill the time of the event. I don't really like this very much...If it works like this we can just write a script for the next event and doing it all alone with some alts. I doubt that is what we all understand under a successful event.
Lack of time
Two weeks for the discussion and preparation of such an event are not enough. Okay, maybe it could be enough if we all doesn't do anything else with our online time than working for the event. But this is not always funny and at least I need some casually roleplay during that time as well to have some fun. And because of the different online times it's hard to catch some players IC. More time would allow more of such meetings as well. In the end we again didn't manage to do all IC talks in advance and had to do some IC talking with the guards 5 minutes before the event started. I think it would be better to count with at least 3 weeks preparation time for such an event.
General lack of interest to organize things IC
It seems for most players it is enough to prepare an event OOCly in forum posts or a group chat and only show up at the event. But I can't agree there. We don't walk around asking ICly for poets or do things like this (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=25642.msg411293#msg411293) just for the fun of it. We do it to involve more players in an event and to create some nice atmosphere for the event. And it's also some kind of advertisement for the event if people hear us talking about it. For sure such advertisement is better than the usual "Going to the poetry fair - To what? - Look in the PS forum - Ah, when? - PS forum - Can I get a reward there?" in guildchat and it improves the RP atmosphere in PS a lot. So for the sake of a successful event I think we have to go on with doing as much IC as possible.
Lack of communication
We again didn't talk enough with each other before the event. Things like the setup of the camp for the fair were never discussed at all and everyone just did what he/she thought fits best there. I'm sure we can improve the overall presentation of an event a lot if we agree on more things in advance. If this doesn't work out only in the forums we maybe should think about creating a event-IRC channel and telling all people to get there as often as possible before the event. This is for sure much easier with guild-chat if only people of the same guild are involved in the organization, but we never have this for the RCO and I doubt that the explorer's have this possibility in most of their OSP events...OSP events always involve a variety of people from different guilds.
And I won't even start about talking fishes here...