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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Zon on March 21, 2010, 05:52:50 pm

Title: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 21, 2010, 05:52:50 pm
The Protégés
[To be redone]
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Overtherainbow on March 21, 2010, 06:46:38 pm
I like this guild, my favourite part is the content.
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Earowo on March 21, 2010, 06:47:29 pm
I like this guild, my favourite part is the content.
i can agree with this completely

btw, isnt zonthek already in a guild?
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 21, 2010, 06:56:10 pm
I like this guild, my favourite part is the content.
i can agree with this completely

btw, isnt zonthek already in a guild?

Leaving EP soon
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Falcon Avian on March 21, 2010, 08:21:11 pm
Hehehe Jatitero joined, but he can't even protect himself.  ;D
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 21, 2010, 08:31:07 pm
Hehehe Jatitero joined, but he can't even protect himself.  ;D

Then the guild will protect kra
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Falcon Avian on March 21, 2010, 11:16:28 pm
Protect him from teh beer!
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Joale on March 21, 2010, 11:17:24 pm
This guild pwns
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Rigwyn on March 22, 2010, 01:35:29 pm
 :beta:
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 22, 2010, 04:50:25 pm
:beta:


sure. beta plus I started it... hehe
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 23, 2010, 04:09:11 am
Protect him from teh beer!

yep we provide that kind of protection too. plus I changed it. it is protection, guide, and learning new skills hehe
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Vakachehk on March 23, 2010, 06:10:26 am
Hmmm nice... but what? what do you do? 'RP' and 'Protect' doesn't really sound like a good strong background for a guild, are you based somewhere, or based around a race? or is this a very Octarchial guild where everyone mixes with everyone?
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 23, 2010, 09:16:07 pm
Hmmm nice... but what? what do you do? 'RP' and 'Protect' doesn't really sound like a good strong background for a guild, are you based somewhere, or based around a race? or is this a very Octarchial guild where everyone mixes with everyone?

This guild is not just all about "protecting". If you look deeper it is more of a "give and be given". All about building a society where everyone will stand for each other, protecting each other, learning from each other, guiding each other, lending a hand etc. It is about building strong bonds, getting along with each other, being there when you are needed, trusting each other . It is NOT just building a society it is more of the sense of what you are contributing to the society. Yes there is the protecting, teaching, etc. They are our "charge".

This guild will not be based on around a race. It would be racist for my character since it is about learning, guiding, building strong bonds etc.  It would hurt our reputation as a friendly and open guild

I cannot say if the guild is Octarchial or not, We mive as a group it means an agreement should be made between the people in the guild and the core. This is not the type of guild where everyone mixes with everyone. in terms of mixing it INSIDE yes but what happens inside the society will remain in the society, what happens outside the society, we wont care as long a no harm will be done inside the society.

Oh and let me also mention that some people in this guild are "temporary"  The ones in potential ramk, they might just be here only for the protection or whatsooever
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Rigwyn on March 23, 2010, 09:56:57 pm

(http://wolferadio11.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/04020302a.jpg)Something is missing here Zon .. not sure what.  Yeah, its a guild .. a society ..
perhaps its time to get out the crayons and color it in ;)
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 23, 2010, 11:46:05 pm

(http://wolferadio11.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/04020302a.jpg)Something is missing here Zon .. not sure what.  Yeah, its a guild .. a society ..
perhaps its time to get out the crayons and color it in ;)


Well I cant say anyhting if you dont specifically state what it is missing, eh?
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Earowo on March 24, 2010, 12:57:45 am
obviously your missing light beer
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 24, 2010, 01:35:03 am
obviously your missing light beer

 ;D  :P Parties? *sarcastic*
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Vakachehk on March 24, 2010, 08:42:00 am
hmmm I do agree there is something missing here.

I cant see how deep it is, what makes it fit really really really well into Settings, not just it fits with Settings regulations.

also what i mean by everyone mixing with everyone it is an Octarchial law that a person in Yliakum can live in any city (if there is a spare house for them) and that they don't just live amongst there races. It seems to be one of those normal guilds, that are based in Hydlaa, and they never go to Ojaveda, or Gug, unless training.

so this guild is trying to make a better society? right so how are they going to do that?
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 24, 2010, 05:37:17 pm
hmmm I do agree there is something missing here.


Then again what is it?

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also what i mean by everyone mixing with everyone it is an Octarchial law that a person in Yliakum can live in any city (if there is a spare house for them) and that they don't just live amongst there races. It seems to be one of those normal guilds, that are based in Hydlaa, and they never go to Ojaveda, or Gug, unless training.

well as it is stated, we go, we do everything as we please regarding what the law is. We could just one day break hydlaa law and live in Ojavedaor gug, we could steal something in Oja. But yeah.

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so this guild is trying to make a better society? right so how are they going to do that?


helping each other out, teaching each other, agreeing with each other, going as a group, standing by each other (protecting each other), teaching each other new tricks, and leaving the ones outside the society as a manority
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Rigwyn on March 24, 2010, 06:48:57 pm

Most guilds (including noob guilds) stick up for each other and share knowledge. In this sense, the description that you gave made it sound like an ordinary generic guild - just like that non-descript black and white can of GENERIC BEER.  :thumbdown: Yuck !

I would say erase the parts about sticking together, sharing info, and rank descriptions and rewrite it from a purely in character point of view. 

What draws your guild mates together ?
What makes your guild different from joe-noob's guild ? ( aside from name, rank descriptions, etc.. )
Why would an outsider who does not know you or any of your members want to join you ?
What sort of thing do you guys do ?

A merchant character might look to join a merchant guild because he knows that he will benefit from fellow merchants.
Another character might join a cult because he's drawn to the cult's philosophy, the cultist's lifestyle, mystique, etc...

Now if a character heard about Protege ... why would he want to join ?
 - Because its lead by Zon ? "Who's Zon", he might wonder.
 - Because he wants protection ? Well, the rest of the guilds would probably do that.

Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Falcon Avian on March 24, 2010, 06:53:20 pm
Rigwyn does have a point Zonthek  :-X
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Akkaido Kivikar on March 26, 2010, 10:17:01 pm
This guild's been done before, several times. Generic, purposeless, "RP" guild.

Before taking on the line that you only want serious RPers, you should create a history and distinctive flavour to your guild, and purpose, to attract real RPers.

Or you'll only get the PLers, who just want a generic guild.
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 26, 2010, 10:35:24 pm
This guild's been done before, several times. Generic, purposeless, "RP" guild.

Before taking on the line that you only want serious RPers, you should create a history and distinctive flavour to your guild, and purpose, to attract real RPers.

Or you'll only get the PLers, who just want a generic guild.

Thanks but this thread is not finished yet. remember  :beta:

Ill answer Rigwyn's later. need to make a small chart
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 27, 2010, 01:43:59 am

Most guilds (including noob guilds) stick up for each other and share knowledge. In this sense, the description that you gave made it sound like an ordinary generic guild - just like that non-descript black and white can of GENERIC BEER.  :thumbdown: Yuck !

They stick up for each other but the knowledge they are sharing is limited. Which means they would need a teacher, or someone that could add to the knowledge that they already know



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I would say erase the parts about sticking together, sharing info, and rank descriptions and rewrite it from a purely in character point of view. 


 :beta:

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What makes your guild different from joe-noob's guild ? ( aside from name, rank descriptions, etc.. )

humm? joe-noobs guild will not have the same history, they would not have the same activity inside, etc. oh and they are not outcasts

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Why would an outsider who does not know you or any of your members want to join you ?

if they are an outcast then they would be interested. and the ones willing to be
outcasted. If they do not like the idea or/and if they want to get rid of currencies [trias]

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What draws your guild mates together ?
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being a family.

Free food, weapon, armour, utensils, ores, etc. [provided by everyone in the community]
which means no currency. But currency is still useful for outside the community


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What sort of thing do you guys do ?

what we always do in life plus getting rid or trias


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A merchant character might look to join a merchant guild because he knows that he will benefit from fellow merchants.
Another character might join a cult because he's drawn to the cult's philosophy, the cultist's lifestyle, mystique, etc...

Now if a character heard about Protege ... why would he want to join ?
 - Because its lead by Zon ? "Who's Zon", he might wonder.
 - Because he wants protection ? Well, the rest of the guilds would probably do that.


This might be true but if you look closely, a merchant guild is just a merchant guild. There is no diversity in there. There is no one that could protect them if a thief attacks them. yes they could hire someone, but there is no loyalty there. A like minded guild is not really my thing. they might grow but that is the only thing, grow. 

Warrior guild - yes strength. what about knowledge? What I mean by knowledge is magic. Some might be capable of some magic but I dont think anyone could be an expert warrior and at the same time an expert mage (PS allows it for now).

 Mage guild- very powerful I should say. but in some settings, mages dont wear Plate armour. I do not know if planshift does, they have fragile bodies, unlike the warriors. They do not rely on strength, they rely on knowledge.

[If a Warrior guild and a Mage guild join forces. Their forces would pretty much strength up]

Single species guild: species have strenghts and weaknesses. they have something that others cant do so if they share it, itheir strengths would increase...
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Rigwyn on March 27, 2010, 03:56:13 am

If you really want to make an interesting RP guild then make some alts and join some well established rp guilds. Learn from them for 6mos or so and then you might have a better idea of how to make an appealing rp guild.
You need to be a student before you can be a teacher.

I wish you the best of luck and hope this guild does well.
Whisper bless :)
Title: Re: [GUILD] The Protégés
Post by: Zon on March 27, 2010, 10:49:01 pm

If you really want to make an interesting RP guild then make some alts and join some well established rp guilds. Learn from them for 6mos or so and then you might have a better idea of how to make an appealing rp guild.
You need to be a student before you can be a teacher.

I wish you the best of luck and hope this guild does well.
Whisper bless :)


Thanks. been playin this for 5 years. joined lots of guilds