PlaneShift

Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: DarkShadowSly on September 24, 2010, 06:05:27 pm

Title: Server Wipe
Post by: DarkShadowSly on September 24, 2010, 06:05:27 pm
Game Would Be Awsome If In The Final Game There Was No Server Wipe Of Current accounts, If There Is One, It Would ge The Crapyest game ever, Ive Puted alot Of Time On my caracter And Its At A Preety Good level now and i dont wana loose that on a wipe on the final game. Please understand  :(
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: novacadian on September 24, 2010, 06:11:14 pm
My understanding is that the Wish List is for things you would like implemented into the game. For just IC knowledge you might want to talk with someone you find working at one of the forges.

- Nova
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: RlyDontKnow on September 24, 2010, 06:16:01 pm
guess it qualitifes as a wish as armor crafting isn't implemented, yet (aside from helms)
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: novacadian on September 24, 2010, 06:17:58 pm
guess it qualitifes as a wish as armor crafting isn't implemented, yet (aside from helms)

Opps. My bad.  ::)

- Nova
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Vakachehk on September 24, 2010, 11:14:40 pm
but i doint know where to get the book, can you help me find out who gives the quest, where, and whats it called please

Sorry I haven't gotten the book myself... Wait, I haven't  :o Well another thing I need to do after Wednesday.

@Nova, its his wish to find the book  ;D
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Geoni on September 25, 2010, 07:00:57 am
DarkShadowSly,

There will be a wipe before the final product of the game. No if ands or buts.
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Overtherainbow on September 25, 2010, 10:41:03 pm
The wipe will occur 75-123 years from now.
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: mikeloeven on September 26, 2010, 12:58:42 am
i wouldn't mind the wipe persay but i would want to keep my character. you could simply reset all characters to the state at which they were in when they were generated. everyting could be zeroed and than the character traits and life events can be reapplied. you would have a brand new character while keeping your name and appearance?

the biggest issue i see with a wipe is the potential for identity theft. people stealing names just because they hit the character generator first. i wouldn't want to get an error that my character already exists because some jerk wants to steal the name. i think that wiping stats and inventory should be more than enough to constitute a wipe and maby even reset character apearances to default and allow people to change that. but i belive you should be able to keep a placeholder so you can recreate the same character you lost.
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Earowo on September 26, 2010, 03:31:26 am
i wouldn't mind the wipe persay but i would want to keep my character. you could simply reset all characters to the state at which they were in when they were generated. everyting could be zeroed and than the character traits and life events can be reapplied. you would have a brand new character while keeping your name and appearance?

the biggest issue i see with a wipe is the potential for identity theft. people stealing names just because they hit the character generator first. i wouldn't want to get an error that my character already exists because some jerk wants to steal the name. i think that wiping stats and inventory should be more than enough to constitute a wipe and maby even reset character apearances to default and allow people to change that. but i belive you should be able to keep a placeholder so you can recreate the same character you lost.
going on that what i would like to see happen, is before the wipe, one of the devs takes the time to write down every email address, and character name, match them, and if sombodies name is stolen, report to a developer, and they can just check the email adress being used, since you cant start an account without logging into the email first,
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: DarkShadowSly on September 26, 2010, 03:39:49 am
ok, but when will this final game be made?
a predicted year
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: DarkShadowSly on September 26, 2010, 03:43:18 am
DarkShadowSly,

There will be a wipe before the final product of the game. No if ands or buts.
I vote NO Wipe, you should start a formun to let the people vote on this eh
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Earowo on September 26, 2010, 03:46:50 am
the final product wont happen for years and years to come, its taken 8 years to get the game where it is now, and there are still many levels of yliakum that need to be made
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: DarkShadowSly on September 26, 2010, 03:52:56 am
yeah, now i wont mind the wipe since it seems like a really good game, as long as its still fre and they make more better looking stuff.

*couhelmetslookuglyth*
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Earowo on September 27, 2010, 07:32:23 am
The game will always be free
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Vakachehk on September 27, 2010, 10:36:36 am
From what I have heard, PlaneShift is only 5% made at the moment, so if it has taken them 8 years to do 5% then 5/100=20 20x5=160 so 160 years till full completion :)
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Earowo on September 28, 2010, 01:11:08 am
unless the game gets funding, with funding more developers can be hired to make it go faster
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Candy on September 29, 2010, 12:05:03 am
From what I have heard, PlaneShift is only 5% made at the moment, so if it has taken them 8 years to do 5% then 5/100=20 20x5=160 so 160 years till full completion :)

VR will render all the MMOs we currently know obsolete by then. They'll have to start from scratch.
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Earowo on September 29, 2010, 12:40:51 am
From what I have heard, PlaneShift is only 5% made at the moment, so if it has taken them 8 years to do 5% then 5/100=20 20x5=160 so 160 years till full completion :)

VR will render all the MMOs we currently know obsolete by then. They'll have to start from scratch.
wtf is VR
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: novacadian on September 29, 2010, 12:44:53 am
wtf is VR

Virtual Reality?

- Nova
Title: Re: helo =)
Post by: Candy on October 17, 2010, 10:03:15 pm
Yes, that's precisely what I was talking about.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: DarkShadowSly on October 18, 2010, 07:15:22 am
if theres a wipe that people with HUNDREDS of lvl's are gona go to waste, there gona be pissed. me myself have alot of lvl's gained and if theres a wipe(even if its light years away) its gona go to waste, screw u
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: jaculapundactum on October 18, 2010, 07:28:24 am
if theres a wipe that people with HUNDREDS of lvl's are gona go to waste, there gona be pissed. me myself have alot of lvl's gained and if theres a wipe(even if its light years away) its gona go to waste, screw u

I doubt you'll still be playing this game when it reaches 1.0 champ. In fact, you might find yourself in a retirement home playing checkers. Moaning about how the nurse is stealing your applesauce.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: novacadian on October 18, 2010, 08:19:04 am
I doubt you'll still be playing this game when it reaches 1.0 champ. In fact, you might find yourself in a retirement home playing checkers. Moaning about how the nurse is stealing your applesauce.

With such linear thinking, you sound like your in the home already.  ;D

- Nova
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Candy on October 18, 2010, 08:47:09 am
if theres a wipe that people with HUNDREDS of lvl's are gona go to waste, there gona be pissed. me myself have alot of lvl's gained and if theres a wipe(even if its light years away) its gona go to waste, screw u

If people get pissed that they lost their hundreds of levels, when they KNEW there's eventually gonna be a wipe because they've been on the forums for more than twenty minutes, that's on them.

It is gonna go to waste. Screw everyone.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: jaculapundactum on October 18, 2010, 09:42:56 am
I doubt you'll still be playing this game when it reaches 1.0 champ. In fact, you might find yourself in a retirement home playing checkers. Moaning about how the nurse is stealing your applesauce.

With such linear thinking, you sound like your in the home already.  ;D

- Nova
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4760/oldman.png)
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Drey on October 18, 2010, 10:00:11 am
seen it done it got the tshirt

plus, it's not that hard to re-level.

(draklar can hold testament to my awesome power levelling abilities)
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2010, 05:47:38 pm
if theres a wipe that people with HUNDREDS of lvl's are gona go to waste, there gona be pissed. me myself have alot of lvl's gained and if theres a wipe(even if its light years away) its gona go to waste, screw u

Oh gosh, somebody please direct Talad's attention to this post is this is typical of the very type of player that his direction of this project attracts... i.e. the average MMO player. He says good riddance to the players that make long detailed posts about what needs to be changed and scoffs at the notion that those people tried to help and that they might be right. Get a good look... those people he was happy to see leave are going to be peanuts compared to having basically people with this kind of mindset around. ;D

I doubt you'll still be playing this game when it reaches 1.0 champ. In fact, you might find yourself in a retirement home playing checkers. Moaning about how the nurse is stealing your applesauce.
With such linear thinking, you sound like your in the home already.  ;D
- Nova

What Jacula says is factual. We knew years ago that we'd be old farts still working on this game. But back then, we didn't care, and we were still willing to work on PS. Now, those willing hands have gotten slapped enough times to wander off to other places. To be honest, the only way this game will make 1.00 now is if they just decide to change the version number on a whim.

If people get pissed that they lost their hundreds of levels, when they KNEW there's eventually gonna be a wipe because they've been on the forums for more than twenty minutes, that's on them.

It is gonna go to waste. Screw everyone.

But Candy, that's expecting people to actually read what's left  of what can be considered important on the forum... we can't have that now. ;) Not to mention, if PS wants to mainstream and become more like other MMOs, it's going to have to be far more considerate of player's levels.  ;D

seen it done it got the tshirt

plus, it's not that hard to re-level.

(draklar can hold testament to my awesome power levelling abilities)

Only if you do nothing but all day. But then PS is like most MMOs now, so leveling instead of RPing is perfectly ok. ;)
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: novacadian on October 18, 2010, 07:06:29 pm
I doubt you'll still be playing this game when it reaches 1.0 champ. In fact, you might find yourself in a retirement home playing checkers. Moaning about how the nurse is stealing your applesauce.

Maybe some real life olbie, like myself, (not to be confused with the bitter olbies of this forum) will leave a small trust fund in their will to ensure that things get finished around here before the next millennia. Such a concept is called thinking outside the box; which seems beyond the scope of those stuck firmly in their bitter past.

One thing learned in my oldbie-ness is to never discount anything as being possible.  ;)

Oh, another thing in the life lessons of a rl oldbie; enjoy yourself and every moment and don't get stuck on the bitter side of life. Life's too short and precious to waist it in a pool of bitterness. My advice would be to move on from that which makes one bitter.

- Nova

[ Edit - spelling ]
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Illysia on October 18, 2010, 08:09:48 pm
The depth of your ignorance astounds Nova and the fact that you must have some age on you make it even worse. ;D I feel bad for anyone crazy enough to put PS in their will. It's one thing to contribute to it as a sort of lifelong project, it's another thing to put it in your will... Nice sucking up and attention whoring there Nova. :thumbup:


And in Jacula's defence, he did leave the game, he deleted his forum account after his last post, and he didn't make a habit of posting a lot in the forums after he left the game. I think he's done admirably, especially for someone that hadn't played the game for very long.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Sillamon on October 18, 2010, 09:03:17 pm

So you think money will make the game better?
That's a pretty youthful assumption for a real life old timer.

Prove me wrong; Donate some money today and see if it gets any better.






Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: novacadian on October 18, 2010, 09:12:28 pm
Nova chuckles at the youthful feisty-ness and how easy it is to stir a bitter pot.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: lilura on October 18, 2010, 10:16:36 pm
it may be easy to stir a bitter pot but why insist on stirring it constantly until it bubbles?  ;)  Time would be better spent helping to create a less bitter soup (if it is indeed bitter .....i dont go around tasting other peoples pots of things) ..
/me takes out the Wooden Spoon of DOOM(tm) and starts smacking people with it.

 :offtopic:


so.... WIPE!?!?!?!???!    ::|
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: RlyDontKnow on October 19, 2010, 05:50:49 am
/me wipes the wooden spoon of doom(tm)
feeling better now?
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Aiwendil on October 19, 2010, 09:16:27 am
hehe...really, just ignore him Illysia. Novacadian managed to set a new record for becoming a "bitter oldbie"...okay, oldbie really is wrong in his case...so only a "bitter player". It took me 3 years until my posts got as bitter as his...Illysia more than 4 or 5 years, Lhaa also 4...even Akkaido needed 2 years. And he managed to get like this in what...4 months? We should pay him respect for realizing in such a short time what PS makes of too dedicated players. So better just ignore his trolling and only take the very few pearls of wisdom he has to offer before he disappears into void again mumbling in insanity "But the timeline...the timeline is wrong":

Oh, another thing in the life lessons of a rl oldbie; enjoy yourself and every moment and don't get stuck on the bitter side of life. Life's too short and precious to waist it in a pool of bitterness. My advice would be to move on from that which makes one bitter.
Seems we have a good example in him what happens to someone if realization of this happens to late.


But back on topic...LOL...people are still afraid of a wipe? The last full wipe happened at the version change from atomic blue to molecular blue...that is 7 years ago now and there wasn't that much to wipe. It took 4 years to move from 0.3 to 0.4 (okay..and only one year to move to 0.5, but still...). At this rate the game will reach version 1.0 in what...20 years? 40? And before that I wouldn't expect any major wipe...not as long as Talad is in lead. Keeping people PLing is more important than such minor things like cleaning a database or allowing some major mechanic changes.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Illysia on October 19, 2010, 06:36:42 pm
hehe...really, just ignore him Illysia. Novacadian managed to set a new record for becoming a "bitter oldbie"...okay, oldbie really is wrong in his case...so only a "bitter player". It took me 3 years until my posts got as bitter as his...Illysia more than 4 or 5 years, Lhaa also 4...even Akkaido needed 2 years. And he managed to get like this in what...4 months? We should pay him respect for realizing in such a short time what PS makes of too dedicated players. So better just ignore his trolling and only take the very few pearls of wisdom he has to offer before he disappears into void again mumbling in insanity "But the timeline...the timeline is wrong":

Well, it seems that Timmy was right (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=37650.msg433909#msg433909). Wow, now that felt funny to say.  ::|
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: potare on October 21, 2010, 11:21:05 am
I think if the wipe goes (more likely it will). Everyone one should be able to max 1 skill.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Earowo on October 22, 2010, 12:58:49 am
I think if the wipe goes (more likely it will). Everyone one should be able to max 1 skill.
what about the people who have never one? all the newbs, are you just going to let them skip the experiance of massive training?
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: potare on October 22, 2010, 12:01:02 pm
You could have a quizz to tell between the newbs and the people who knows planeshift
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Earowo on October 22, 2010, 09:01:17 pm
You could have a quizz to tell between the newbs and the people who knows planeshift
Any newb, can look up planeshifts. abck-story, and any newb could look online to find out about guilds, quests, or trainers, so there isnt really a quiz a newb wouldnt be able to pass
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: HHH on October 25, 2010, 11:28:24 am
wipe the server yay
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Vakachehk on October 29, 2010, 09:00:46 am
Wipe away, hopefully this will push the levelers off the RP server, and bring more greater RP!!  \\o//
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Sangwa on October 31, 2010, 03:31:00 pm
hehe...really, just ignore him Illysia. Novacadian managed to set a new record for becoming a "bitter oldbie"...okay, oldbie really is wrong in his case...so only a "bitter player". It took me 3 years until my posts got as bitter as his...Illysia more than 4 or 5 years, Lhaa also 4...even Akkaido needed 2 years. And he managed to get like this in what...4 months? We should pay him respect for realizing in such a short time what PS makes of too dedicated players. So better just ignore his trolling and only take the very few pearls of wisdom he has to offer before he disappears into void again mumbling in insanity "But the timeline...the timeline is wrong":

Well, it seems that Timmy was right (http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=37650.msg433909#msg433909). Wow, now that felt funny to say.  ::|

Don't worry Illysia, you can safely disagree with both of those guys. I'm pretty glad with what PlaneShift has become and 3, 4 years is what I call an oldbie's break. I've been here longer than most of you, but I don' consider myself an oldbie... I'm a midbie, right where the virtue is.

It's just not true that most dedicated players become bitter. LigH's usually got a smile on his face and so have plenty of people who are actually players and not forum dwellers. Hey, I have a smile on my face and I have to put up with all the sobbing and sulking!
The ones that become bitter are those who perceive the task of improving PlaneShift as impossible to be carried out by their mortal manifestations. Let me say I state my pity and compassion for that kind of people, for I have been in that same mud.

As far as wipes go... I think they're actually required, once in a while (for mechanical reasons). I don't agree with propping up the old players, but I won't mind using whatever is given to me, like I used my ring of the past until I gave it to someone who actually used it.
Title: Re: Server Wipe
Post by: Vakachehk on November 02, 2010, 05:28:35 am
LigH's usually got a smile on his face and so have plenty of people who are actually players and not forum dwellers.

Are you pointing this at me?  ;D