PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Vakachehk on October 19, 2010, 10:12:07 am
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
split from http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=38318.0
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
I would say that Roman numerals are quite alright to use, seeing as the IG laws in the Octarchal Decree all have Roman numerals.
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
I would say that Roman numerals are quite alright to use, seeing as the IG laws in the Octarchal Decree all have Roman numerals.
Or maybe that just shows how fail PlaneShift is to its settings :P
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Or some people love nitpicking so much that they do it even with absolutely unimportant details.
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Or maybe that just shows how fail PlaneShift is to its settings :P
Without higher mathematics a system akin to Roman Numerals seems much more natural a development and more fitting to PS settings. Our modern numeric's set should be on the same par as the use of smilies in Main.
- Nova
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
I would say that Roman numerals are quite alright to use, seeing as the IG laws in the Octarchal Decree all have Roman numerals.
Or maybe that just shows how fail PlaneShift is to its settings :P
Roman numbers, first of all, are numbers. Is not OOC to write "1" or "15" or "6377" even if in fact these are Arabic numbers. So let's not be racist! ::)
I would also like to emphasize that we are going :offtopic:. This thread exists so that interested citizens can help the development of the newspaper and I would ask everyone to avoid discussions about topics that are not of any real utility.
Thanks to all for the participation!
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I would like to ask to a moderator to move all this useless discussion to the "Hydlaa Plaza" forum, please. The topic is "Are roman numbers OOC?".... :(
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If they're in the Octarchal Laws, then they're not OOC, unless the settings team decides to change that. Honestly, is it that much of a stretch to assume that in a land full of so many intelligent races from different backgrounds, there would be a few different ways of writing numbers?
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That's possibly the most retarded suggestion I have ever heard. 6=VI. It's said "six" whether written in roman numerals or the simple number.
Therefore, one could write it however they please in Main.
There is no zero in roman numerals; thus a less developed numeric system. I, II and III are straight from finger counting. The rest looks like a mishmash building upon that theme. Interestingly, a Roman Numeral conversion program was the first programming assignment given me in university so they hold a soft spot to me still.
If memory serves, on some semi-official posting or settings page, it was suggested to not use regular numerics in Main. i.e. use three instead of 3.
- Nova
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
I would say that Roman numerals are quite alright to use, seeing as the IG laws in the Octarchal Decree all have Roman numerals.
Koios is right, the laws in the Octarchal Decree are written in Roman numbers
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[ :thumbup: Nice guild structure.
BUT yes me and my name hating, still finds your name lowly thought out. I also find your list OOCly named as I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, are the Roman numerals, Roman Numerals are not IC. Other than that great work with your guild so far!]
split from http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=38318.0
0123456789 <- These are Arabic numerals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu-Arabic_numerals)
abcdefhijklmnopqrstuvwxyz <- These are latin characters.
Hope, you play a deaf and dump character in game, as otherwise, I can not perceive how you'd able to communicate ICly.
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(http://planeshift.ezpcusa.com/pswiki/images/6/6f/Numbersystemenk.png)
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I spoke with Venalan and he said that the new laws that will be released sometime in the near future are in Arabic numbers, obviously because Roman Numerals are OOC.
It is pretty obvious they are OOC as you cant really say in main: "Oh those Roman Numerals, I so don't understand them" Rom, Roman, are both OOC because they exist in the real world, as also the same as naming a character William or John... etc. To the PS settings it is OOC imo.
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k, but Arabic numbers would be OOC too, in truest sense
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... I wonder if OOC phobic roleplayers could be pleased if the devs would stop working on the actual game until they have come up with a synthetic language, totally unique to PlaneShift (actually one per race and dialect) that has an equally unique glyph set as an alphabet. We could finally eliminate OOC once and for all by no longer having OOC words.
Well ... we probably wouldn't have any players any more either, but hey, that's an acceptable tradeoff in order to turn PS into an RP heaven, isn't it?
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heaven is OOC, lol
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Then all text and characters being used in the software is OOC. Why use ASCII when you can invent your own language and symbols?
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you're not getting what i say, i am considered PL, read my comment again :P
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heaven is OOC, lol
Sweet. I think this is the first time I'll quote someone else in my sig.
EDIT to correct: What is and isn't IC is decided by the developers. There's no other logic behind it. In other words, if you bother a GM or a Developer long enough you might get an actual response. I doubt they'll bother with this particular issue though.
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well, if we die, we go to DR, that's it
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You can't blame me for loving your reaction.
Oh you weren't blaming me. Cursed Rinenud. He's making me paranoid.
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[off topic: you're awaiting a slow chat reaction, aren't you? :P]
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k, but Arabic numbers would be OOC too, in truest sense
Wrong again, Arabic Numbers are classified as Lemur or Common, as Arabic Numbers are the main numbering system used in the English language, English is the translation to Lemur or Common for IG.
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Not that I would be remotely bothered to try and learn a completely new writing system for a game but I just wanted to point this out.
We could finally eliminate OOC once and for all by no longer having OOC words.
Well ... we probably wouldn't have any players any more either, but hey, that's an acceptable tradeoff in order to turn PS into an RP heaven, isn't it?
We already lost most of the players and most of them were the RPers. Apparently they are necessary to the game, even the overzealous ones, as apparently other people didn't see fit to rush in and fill the void that disgruntled RPers left.
And Vaka, settings can change on a dime. That which is classified as common now might be out tomorrow.
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let's not turn to a different subject again, this is about Roman numerals
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Yeah, listen to him. We don't take kindly to pessimism here. We can do well without you and the disgruntled RPers that hired you to act out their vengeance. And without Rinenud as well. Take him if you're thinking of leaving.
So Roman Numerals... Roman Numerals. Rom. An. Num. Erals. Really, why are we talking about this? It seem Devs agree Roman Numerals are OOC since V's dev friend said they're taking off Roman Numerals from the laws. And if laws can't have roman numerals then, my friends, nothing else is entitled to have it.
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If you arent capable of writing advanced oxford english style you are OOC automatically, evidently.
I had to obey to this rule and leave this game.
Follow me. (Yes you too, Vakachechk).
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The Crystal works like a giant ...
(http://www.globalwatchtower.com/images/gwt/img_babel_fish.jpg)
;D
Stop nitpicking the unimportant. It wastes time for real creativity. Like supporting the whole community.
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Haha, dudes, you're all so geeky.
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It's not to do with the IC/OOCness of 1,2,3 etc.
Agreed. The off topic posts that lead to the creation of this thread had nothing to do with numbers what-so-ever. :-X
- Nova
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I wouldn't say it was 'off topic' I was suggesting my idea to the creator of that guild to change it because in my own opinion it was OOC. If someone says ohh Im going to make The Order of the Maori, and I go "ayy that's OOC" absolutely does not make it have to be an off topic post, and does not have to be placed in another thread. In my honest opinion I just think that leader was just trying to cover up his own guild from looking OOC from one little mistake. But really no guild is fully developed when created, there will always be changes done to it.
But if you really think its IC, then next time I get back on the RP server I will just begin using Japanese Numerals :)