PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Talad on November 16, 2010, 04:52:13 pm
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[News taken from main site]
Some updates! :)
We are working on the next release, which will make the client more stable and will add some new interesting elements to the game. New areas, some improvements to the user interface, more animations and better game progression through the faction and quest systems.
:detective: To make all the above possible (in a reasonable timeframe!) and for the future expansions we need your help in finding new PS developers and contributors, and we decided to launch a new recruitment campaign where everyone can help!
We ask you to download one of the flyers below, print it, go to your university/school/office and stick it in the public board. Yes, physically! As an alternative, if there is an electronic place to share such kind of messages within the university/school/office you can use the electronic file.
We will be very grateful if you can let us know where/when you posted it, so we can track the progress of this initiative. For this purpose you can use this forum thread.
Flyer for artists, to be used in any art school/course: Color (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_artist.jpg), black and white (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_artistbw.jpg).
Flyer for programmers, to be used in any computer science school/course: Color (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_engine.jpg), black and white (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_enginebw.jpg).
Flyer for writers, to be used in any literature/art school/course: Color (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_writer.jpg), black and white (http://www.planeshift.it/download/prospects/flyer_writerbw.jpg).
Thanks! We want to see a greater and better PlaneShift! :thumbup:
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I can definitly do this, all of the walls in my whole school, have a cover, of posting board, its like, clothy, and meant for posting things, so if i can get my printer to work i'll post them all over the place :thumbup:
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Running out of team members?
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Having designed plenty of college billboard flyers before... these could stand a little improvement, tbh. :whistling: Too much text, awkward grammar, address not prominent enough, etc. etc.
And is that "500.000 registered players" meant to convey 500 or 500,000? If it's just 500, ditch the decimal. If you're claiming 500,000, then even if it's technically true you're going to get people logging on and saying "... Where are all the people?"
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And is that "500.000 registered players" meant to convey 500 or 500,000? If it's just 500, ditch the decimal. If you're claiming 500,000, then even if it's technically true you're going to get people logging on and saying "... Where are all the people?"
Well, i have'nt been on the site since V 4.03 of PS, but back then when the server went down all the time, I would check the website, for the server, and it had a little part in the corner saying there were around 20,000 accounts or so
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I do believe that saying 500.000 like that is jus5 a more European way of doing things.
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I'm glad other people saw fit to point out what I was thinking... ;D But two things...
1. what happened to the old flyers? I remember one from before and it was actually nicer.
2. what happened to the people from that game design class that used to have people posting all over the place looking for where to get info on what they were supposed to be working on?
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Having designed plenty of college billboard flyers before... these could stand a little improvement, tbh. :whistling: Too much text, awkward grammar, address not prominent enough, etc. etc.
And is that "500.000 registered players" meant to convey 500 or 500,000? If it's just 500, ditch the decimal. If you're claiming 500,000, then even if it's technically true you're going to get people logging on and saying "... Where are all the people?"
mmmmmh yes I agree with you, the poster isn't very attractive, I could probably come up with a far better one.
I do wonder, why isn't there oe for players to join?
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Well, I could volunteer in terms of developing a coherent judicial and legal system in game. The courts practice and judicial reasoning here could see better days. :-p
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It is a common notion that there are two types of people in this world, one who creates, and one who follows and criticizes.
Then again, when the latter is justified I cannot help but to be enticed to ask a few questions.
Talad,
- Is a "strong focus on roleplay" really envisioned for the future of Planeshift?
- When on the topic of roleplay. How would you personally define it, do you enjoy it?
- Does Planeshift really need public settings, as in at least a background for each race at all?
- How is it to work within the team, is it a pleasant, learning experience?
- What direction is the game going in from an administrator standpoint?
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I do believe that saying 500.000 like that is jus5 a more European way of doing things.
A fair point. I wonder if it would be possible to get versions that just said "500"? My American eyes see five zeros and I automatically assume 500,000.
- Does Planeshift really need public settings, as in at least a background for each race at all?
Well, if it's meant to be a RP focused game, then yes. It strains credulity to say everyone except the Lemurs and the Kran have forgotten their origins, when Yliakum hasn't been inhabited for even a full thousand years yet. Knowing the backgrounds would be helpful for figuring out what the cultures are supposed to be like.
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I do believe that saying 500.000 like that is jus5 a more European way of doing things.
A fair point. I wonder if it would be possible to get versions that just said "500"? My American eyes see five zeros and I automatically assume 500,000.
Americans always liked to do things backwards (the nomenclature was created first by Europeans after all) Americans use a comma (,) to denote the thousands place, while they use a dot (.) to represent the zeros place. Almost the entire rest of the world uses dots (.) for denoting thousand places, and a comma (,) for the zero place.
anyone who has gone through some chemistry or physics, or upper level math courses will simply read this as five hundred thousand regardless of where they are from. As the posters are designed for people in college (people who are 18+), and if you are a studying to be a developer, you have had those higher level academics courses, these people will know of the differences in notation and will read the number correctly.
As such, I don't see the need to really worry about it. But on the other hand, I think it would have been nice to have a few different copies created that use both ways of denoting it so people could have used whichever version they wanted.
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Americans always liked to do things backwards (the nomenclature was created first by Europeans after all) Americans use a comma (,) to denote the thousands place, while they use a dot (.) to represent the zeros place. Almost the entire rest of the world uses dots (.) for denoting thousand places, and a comma (,) for the zero place.
anyone who has gone through some chemistry or physics, or upper level math courses will simply read this as five hundred thousand regardless of where they are from. As the posters are designed for people in college (people who are 18+), and if you are a studying to be a developer, you have had those higher level academics courses, these people will know of the differences in notation and will read the number correctly.
Having gone through a fair bit of upper level math, I'm gonna have to say I've always seen the numbers adjusted for the American nomenclature. But my experience is probably in the minority, so, no biggie.
Edited to add: it is impressively stupid that I misinterpreted what Dracaeon meant, though. Um - it's early in the morning here and my brain is only at 50% functionality apparently? :-[
Regardless, that's besides the point: so the posters are indeed saying five hundred thousand player accounts? Even if that's technically true, only a small sliver of those accounts are actually being used. I have a feeling these posters might foster a slightly unrealistic expectation in possible recruits.
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Regardless, that's besides the point: so the posters are indeed saying five hundred thousand player accounts? Even if that's technically true, only a small sliver of those accounts are actually being used. I have a feeling these posters might foster a slightly unrealistic expectation in possible recruits.
Take a look at the guilds page on the main website... it's part of a long standing tradition. Fudging statements with misleading info and throwing out unqualified numbers are considered perfectly acceptable behavior for luring people to PS, and that might explain why the new recruitment drive is needed... after all, if you manage to get in, you are eventually bound to stumble across the the parts that weren't explicitly stated. Unfortunately, reality getting a jump on you when it was completely unnecessary is rather discouraging and contributes to people burning out faster than necessary.
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wow are there really 500k accounts created? Although that doesn't mean 500k people nesessarily... anyway, i will definintely let people in my school know of this. Personally i have already offered to help with modeling in any way i can (info@planeshift.it is a valid e-mail to ask helping with PS, isn't it?) I tried Talad's address on PS site about a month ago but i got a message my mail was never delivered
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Having designed plenty of college billboard flyers before... these could stand a little improvement, tbh. :whistling: Too much text, awkward grammar, address not prominent enough, etc. etc.
Ruya!! make your own !! http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34865.msg400842#msg400842 <--- promotional poster contest thread! :)
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wow are there really 500k accounts created? Although that doesn't mean 500k people nesessarily... anyway, i will definintely let people in my school know of this. Personally i have already offered to help with modeling in any way i can (info@planeshift.it is a valid e-mail to ask helping with PS, isn't it?) I tried Talad's address on PS site about a month ago but i got a message my mail was never delivered
no you've to use http://planeshift.ezpcusa.com/nexus/
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Having designed plenty of college billboard flyers before... these could stand a little improvement, tbh. :whistling: Too much text, awkward grammar, address not prominent enough, etc. etc.
Ruya!! make your own !! http://www.hydlaaplaza.com/smf/index.php?topic=34865.msg400842#msg400842 <--- promotional poster contest thread! :)
I guess I could put my money where my mouth is :lol: I'll see if I have time soonish to do so.
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I know some colleagues from Microsoft Student Partnership in my University that may be interested, they are in the club of game developers at the University (Club's Site (http://students.info.uaic.ro/~vlad.manea/fiigamedev/?page=contact)) but the problem is that they mostly make games using Microsoft products(especially XNA and Visual C# and the open source cross-platform Irrlicht Engine).
Anyway, I just sent an email to them with the Flyers... I don't guarantee anything.
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Im only in highschool but there would probobly be interested teachers...
and yeah, I have 8 or more characters :P
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Some answers to your questions:
1) Number of accounts: it's 500k not 500. That's the current number of accounts on zeroping. About 300K have been deleted in the past, and we are not adding up the ones of ezpc, so it's just a number to give an indication of how many people tried PlaneShift up to today. If you think it's clearer to say 500000 or 500.000 I can change it easily.
2) If you can make a better one, please proceed!! I'm all up to get a nicer one.
3) If you find grammar errors, please list those here, so I can correct those.
4) As for roleplay there is surely a strong focus on it from us, the definition is on the web site here (http://www.planeshift.it/roleplay.html).
5) Working in the team is a great experience, but not an easy one. We are not throwing ideas and sleeping. We are working hard and discussing all the time! Like a real company.
6) In term of future direction, we are willing to expand the game more in terms of playability and fun factor. One of the main themes of 0.6 is to improve the fun factor by removing some of the current limitations, and by streamlining better the progression through factions and quests.
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1) Yeah it's funny how around 500k people have tried planeshift yet only 30-50 people are playing these days. Great success rate for ya.
4) On your roleplay guide it has a kran being referred to as a he.
5) Working on the team has been such a great experience that many have quit it or been fired from it. Well at least you got the "like a real company" part right.
6) What progression are you talking about and how is it being streamlined through factions and quests?
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If you think it's clearer to say 500000 or 500.000 I can change it easily.
Noooooooooooooo, we think it should be 500,000 that way no one will think it's a decimal.
But yes, this poster isn't that much of a great idea.
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1) Yeah it's funny how around 500k people have tried planeshift yet only 30-50 people are playing these days. Great success rate for ya.
4) On your roleplay guide it has a kran being referred to as a he.
5) Working on the team has been such a great experience that many have quit it or been fired from it. Well at least you got the "like a real company" part right.
6) What progression are you talking about and how is it being streamlined through factions and quests?
I can see it coming now
Talad: /ban geoni forever bwahahahaha
XD
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What in the world could you be talking about? Talad loves me.
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Reference the 500k
1. Many players have two or more accounts. (Note accounts not players) Another little known fact is that players expressed the desire to be able to play several characters at the same time, so there are no restrictions to number of accounts you can have, just a different email per account.
2. The forums have many posts of players returning. Some just for a look to see how the game is progressing or to look up old friends.
3. About 2. It is a lengthy process to restore an account if it is deleted, and frankly time is better spent looking into bugs/fixes.
4. Would you rather this game did the same as many other games;
A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
We would rather keep the accounts so returning people can pick up where they left off, or if they so desire make new characters, this game is as has been said many times, a game in the making, yes it is taking time, Devs move on as RL dictates their availability, so new have to be found, who in their free time can help with making the game.
So it is a low priority to remove unused accounts, but nothing stopping you asking for your own to be removed, and when time permits it will be.
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Your ability to be a troll is incredible. Try to find a job on this, maybe you can make money. Just stay out of here if you don't like the game.
About the current players we have thousands of active players, I have no idea where you got the 30-50, and sincerely I'm not interested in knowing it.
For the people willing to create a new flyer, just post your ideas and layouts in here, so we can evaluate to use that in the future.
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Your ability to be a troll is incredible. Try to find a job on this, maybe you can make money. Just stay out of here if you don't like the game.
OMG I laughed so much I almost wet my pants XD
About the current players we have thousands of active players, I have no idea where you got the 30-50, and sincerely I'm not interested in knowing it.
You just og in game, make /who, write the number down… at 10 AM, 14 PM, 19 PM and 12 AM. I can tell no more than 70 players at the same time.
For the people willing to create a new flyer, just post your ideas and layouts in here, so we can evaluate to use that in the future.
Perhaps I'll do that… but does it have to be medieval-ish and so? The question looks obvious but it isn't at all…
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Mishka, your calculation assumes that every players plays 24/7 ;)
an example:
assume these numbers (I only guessed them!)
30 players at every given time on average
and 1/h per day per player on average
gives you the relation:
1/24 * number_of_active_players = 30
-> number_of_active_players = 30*24 = 720
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A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
Newsflash, that is completely confusing. You have to log in once a week or once a year or the account is deleted, which is it? Where is this information detailed on the site?
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mmm... out of topic again... anyway... We delete accounts which have not been logged for the last 3 years. We delete the characters and the account. This has been the policy up to now. If we change it, I will let you know. :)
About the active players, Minks reasoning is the correct one, and that's usually how we calculate active players (people logged in at least 1 time in the last week with different IPs). In addition you have to sum up players from zeroping and ezpc. There are players who play few hours a week only, so they don't show up in the raw /who calculation (which is wrong).
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mmm... out of topic again... anyway... We delete accounts which have not been logged for the last 3 years. We delete the characters and the account. This has been the policy up to now. If we change it, I will let you know. :)
That has always been my understanding of the policy. Thank you, Talad!
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A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
Newsflash, that is completely confusing. You have to log in once a week or once a year or the account is deleted, which is it? Where is this information detailed on the site?
You have quoted this out of context. I was referring to how some other games do it, we do it the way Talad explains.
4. Would you rather this game did the same as many other games;
A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
We would rather keep the accounts so returning people can pick up where they left off, or if they so desire make new characters, this game is as has been said many times, a game in the making, yes it is taking time, Devs move on as RL dictates their availability, so new have to be found, who in their free time can help with making the game.
So it is a low priority to remove unused accounts, but nothing stopping you asking for your own to be removed, and when time permits it will be.
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Here's my artists flyer in colour:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5346/planeshiftartflyer.jpg
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Looks very good ! Do you have a layered version of it? (like Photoshop PSD or Gimp file). We may create a new series of flyers and release those in few months for another developers search.
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I put it together in InDesign but I can supply pdf of the whole flyer and the background in photoshop.
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Have hanged a flyer for programmers in T-Systems in Kosice, Slovakia
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I dont think it looks very good at all, An X that is about 1 by 1 CM doesnt really show anything
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For some reason the link is not working for you. Try this one; click the black image to see it properly:
http://yfrog.com/f/jbplaneshiftartflyerj/
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that frog site doesnt work for me, period, im good with photobucket, or whatever its called
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okay, i ve been lucky enough and out teacher let me make a small presentation of the game in our class... also i ve let the school's manager know of the game, hopefully he will put the poster on the message board or may even present it to the gamer's department although they are making their own game already... i couldn't post it without asking for anyones permission sadly. Hope that brings one or two devs :)
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If I had a printer I would spam my school with them. ;D
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I could do some molding. it i could have the meshes of the currant avatars I could try to reform them in to other races it should be a hole lot quicker then starting from scratch. the races I count still needing molding are:
Ylians- Female
Xacha –Female & Male
Nolthrir-Male
Lemurs-Female & Male
Diaboli- Female & Male
I also wonder if thes races still need molding
Stonebraker- Female & Male
Klyros- Female
Let me know what still needs to be molded I am happy to help. Please send me a privet message so I know you replied.
Sunhear
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Thank you for your offer.
Get in touch with the developers - usually via IRC. weltall and RlyDontKnow are often present (e.g. in #planeshift-build) and will tell you the matching contact person or IRC channel, or the next steps to go towards getting recruited (apart from the obvious recruitment page on planeshift.it).
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A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
Newsflash, that is completely confusing. You have to log in once a week or once a year or the account is deleted, which is it? Where is this information detailed on the site?
You have quoted this out of context. I was referring to how some other games do it, we do it the way Talad explains.
4. Would you rather this game did the same as many other games;
A. You must log in at least once a week or account is deleted.
B. You must play within a year or account is deleted.
C. And you have to pay.
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I am currently working on my own flyers it will probably be A4 size. Will be done in PhotoShop when I get it :) hopefully will looks good!
HEY Sunhear, didn't know you are on these Forums, I replied to your PM on KIC's forums, sorry for my in-activeness lately!
I have heard that a certain dwarf is in need of modeling either Hammerwielder or Stonebreaker, and also Saraghi pack of the Enkidukai are in need of modelling, but I don't know when, as I think they are waiting for some new feature in CS.
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I may try to help with settings a bit.