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Complaint Department / Re: Some observations
« on: August 14, 2010, 04:03:36 pm »
If i understand this correctly, and speaking in general, in certain situation one just creates an alt to rp weird stuff.

People play alts for lots of reasons, one being to RP different experiences and personalities that are inconsistent with their current character.

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Complaint Department / Re: Some observations
« on: August 13, 2010, 02:24:23 pm »

[ For the purposes of this post, I will make the distinction between what I refer to as 'cybering' and what I refer to as 'RP sex' and 'RP violence'. RP sex is sex that happens within the confines of the dome and is done completely ICly between two or more characters. RP violence is violent acts, including rape within the confines of the dome and is done completely ICly between two or more characters. Cybering is sex that happens OOCly between two or more players. Whether or not these definitions are widely accepted and/or held by you, the reader, is irrelevant. The intention is simply to clearly differentiate the two for this post ]

I have thoughts I'd like to share regarding the Stonehead banning, but will do so in a different post. I'd like to address the issue of RP sex and cybering in PS that have been raised by Troyyer and commented on by others, and I will try to do it with a logical flow, top down.

The first thing we all need to remember is that PS is not a public MMORPG. It is a private MMORPG offering public access. What does this mean? Simply that whatever the authorities say is law, becomes law. They don't have to follow any common civil liberties practices. Talad's law is the final word. That said, it is in their best interest to try and accomodate the public masses, if they desire players to flock and enjoy their MMORPG. So talking about these issues becomes a vital step in their discussions of rules and regulations, and this thread is a good place to let your voice be heard, regardless of your stand on the issues. I believe they are paying attention.

Next and OOCly, we all must realize that one person's ideology regarding sex and violence is likely to be quite different than the next person's. We cannot impose our own beliefs on a population simply because it's what we believe. We must allow each other our own thoughts and opinions, even if they are drastically different from ours. That is the fundamental principle of individuality. We may choose not to befriend or participate with someone who is diametrically opposed to our thinking, but we don't have the right to pass judgement on them.

I am of the opinion that RP sex and RP violence should be allowed without restraint, under the following conditions: 1] It is performed by two consenting adults (Definition varies widely but is commonly accepted as 18 or older in the US), and 2] It is kept completely in private channels and absolutely nothing that could be considered offensive in any way is done in any public channels. Now, the term offensive is inherently subjective in nature. So for my purposes, I will limit this to sexually offensive.

My character, Eelin, is a male Diaboli who plays as very sexually active. Not only is it completely within the 'settings' of the game, it is quite fun to RP him that way. So in the normal course of RP, Eelin may find himself attracted to a female character (or 3 female characters) and choose to act on his instincts. If he does, these acts are done entirely ICly and shouldn't be a problem for anyone as long as the basic assumptions for RP sex are followed. After all, Eelin is a character on an RP server and encouraged to 'immerse' into his role.

And too there is a great difference between sex (healthy) and rape (not to be tolerated). If one cannot figure out the difference they should refrain from it all.

Assuming this opinion is spoken about RP sex, I mean no offense nor anything personal here. I know Qata and we have RP'd together as well as spoken OOCly, and I have no issues with him. But this illustrates something that I think is important we stop and consider. Both sex and rape are very common fantasies played out on RP servers and RP forums, both done between consenting adults with the same interests, and further...both done in often valid RP situations. The statement concerns me for two reasons: 1] We cannot impose our own beliefs on each other by saying that one's choice of RPing a rape scenario is 'not to be tolerated' or 'If one cannot figure out the difference they should refrain from it all'. We have a right to take offense to anything we want, we don't have a right to see everyone through our own filters and paint them all to look like us with a broad sweeping brush. 2] This can easily be misconstrued as a bit self-serving in that we justify what 'We' do ingame (eg. healthy sex), making anything else unacceptable because we choose not to do it. Again, no offense intended to Qata, just and opportunity to illustrate what I feel are common traps we all tend to fall into.

Most everyone who knows Eelin also knows that I play Ahriman as well. He has been talked about a lot on the forums recently. For the record, Ahriman was created for the sole purpose of participating in a major RP. Every one of Ahriman's victims were volunteers and every one of them was given full reign to control the boundaries of the RP (eg. sex, rape, torture). There was never one incidence involving Ahriman's participation that was not discussed and agreed upon OOCly before it took place ICly.
And as Sarva pointed out, Ahriman did pay for one of his crimes, and he made a rather remarkable self-atonement for another. The point, RP crime has consequences and Ahriman is facing them.

As far as 'cybering', I believe that is the choice of the players. I do not condone nor condemn it, I simply feel it's irrelevant as it's done OOCly and usually outside PS itself.

We, as players in PS, are from a plethora of locations and cultures. This is one of the most diverse RP communities I have participated in. If we always have respect for each other, and open our minds to the fact that our opinion isn't always right for someone else, all of these issues will become moot. Let's make the choices that work for us personally, and allow others to do the same.


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What a great idea! I love your imagination and creativity. It shouldn't be too hard to get folks interested. I wish you the best!  :)

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I realize how wrong I was and will be working to correct the harm I have done.

I'm guessing this is spoken ICly?


*edit*


Elady has taken off for the wilds to find a heard of Ulbers figuring they will beat her up less than what has been happening in Hydlaa lately  ;)

I think each of us needs to do what makes us comfortable as players and characters. Sometimes a little break is definately required, I'll be the first to attest to that! That said, I hope your stay in the wilds is short, Elady.

*edit*

Those who shade the truth to further their position end up in darkness.

And those who leave cryptic and undecipherable messages will be forced to wear a pink foofy dress and paraded around the Plaza!

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The whole idea of this was to have fun and draw others more deeply into some new and different RP experiences. There is an abundance of talented RPers that many of us have never had the opportunity to interact with. From those I've talked to, these have been some rich encounters that have expanded their characters. But as with anything that requires the involvement of many different players, each with their own opinions, we have to realize that there will be times when there is some disagreement. So the real test for all of us, as players and characters, is how we choose to come through this. A common theme that I am seeing is that there is sometimes some confusion in differentiating things that are done ICly and those that are OOC. That can be a difficult obstacle to overcome for many, but it's far from impossible.
Personally, I'd like to see DoX come through this much stronger than they went into it, and I think it would be easy. They have faced some trauma and turmoil, but isn't that just the thing that makes us stronger? I know ICly each member of DoX, and I know they each have the character and backbone to turn this into a positive experience in the end, and I'm pulling hard for them because I know they can do it!

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: A Kidnapping Gone Wrong
« on: July 08, 2010, 01:07:59 pm »
err what about dannae? those tards let her die.  :o

Cause Dannae looks absolutely stunning in the dim light of the Death Realm!

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Marsuveus' Saga (Hunting the House)
« on: July 08, 2010, 12:59:54 pm »
Marshy is going down! Those holes in my torso are slowing down my love life!  ;D

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: Dining at the Stonehead Tavern
« on: July 08, 2010, 12:57:56 pm »
I'll be there! Reservations for 3 please!  :P

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In-Game Roleplay Events / Re: [A post for RPers to find Rpers]
« on: July 04, 2010, 07:29:40 pm »
Forum ID: Eelin
In game characters: Eelin, Malano
Hours in game: 6:00pm to 2:00am weekdays, weekends vary.
Time Zone: US Central
Frequent hangouts: Kada El's, Stonehead, Red Crystal Den, Hydlaa
Religious Orientation: Eelin-Talad, Malano-Atheist
Guild: Eelin-House of Trayus, Malano-None
Description: Eelin is quite tall, even for a Diaboli. His face is somewhat less than handsome, by most standards, more rugged and distinguished. His long dark hair sharply contrasts his short-cropped white goatee. He bears a long scar across his forehead from a childhood injury, though only vaguely recognizable now. His oily skin reflects the light, giving him a warm glow in the daylight. He smells of safflower, which he uses to cleanse himself, when not overpowered by the distinctive odor of his favorite refreshment.

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