pvp......
do you have any ideea how hard it is for someone to rp evil?
imagine 10 ppl jumping a "poor" traveller on the hills somewhere, he just goes on with his buisness ignoring them...how do you do it then?of course, when there are 20+good guys against me i got a shot, don't i???

that's not exactly my ideea, Sherlock, actually you got it pretty much all wrong
first i DO believe in ballance, second I don't think that a player can RP whe they are camping at a rogue or glad 24/7, and third, i am AGAINST helping people at this moment, because the ballance of yliakum is too much inclined toward good allready.
And last i don't require any more interpretations or translations, thank you. I'm pretty sure the persons to whom this post is intended understand it quite well.
If you don't have anything important to say, just shut up

there is no need to have an alligment system, alligment, is not something you choose once and then get stuck with, alligment is forced upon your character by his actions
what i am suggesting is that all new players should choose a starting alligment
Of course that choice won\'t be final

Kiwisol,
Thank you for you remark, i appreciate it, but this isn\'t about who gets credit or not
It\'s about improving the ps performance, improving the allround atmosphere of the game and eventually making sure there is a game...
that would be the point of RP
i was asked on my ideea of RP, quite simple there should be no such term, From the very word comes from role-play as in playing your role
if i was to compare it to RL, the closest thing i can get would be something like Roleplay=living your life
--Makita

Xilix,
you say you came here for advice, well i\'m going to give you my ideea on how you should start, because all i heard so far were either praises by people that dont know a thing about what you are doing, but are supporting you to get on your good side, or critticism by me
anyway, i did your initiation test with an alt char to see what it\'s all about. I did that 4 days ago and then deleted that char.
I also dont know much about your guild, but if you want to be like a tutorial....there goes:

So here\'s my ideea
firstly ok, it\'s a good ideea to send them to your website, you seem to have things covered there.
but when they come back you send them to purchase all armour and all glyphs...errr why?
i suggest that you ask them a few questions about game lore and if they answer correctly you give them a reward [300 trias max]as for an initiation quest here\'s a few pointers:
1. First you ask them their alligment you could use the alligment box:

2. Second you try to ask them what path they would take, possible paths:
2.1Fighter[most obvious]with sub-paths
2.1.1 Soldier [sword/medium armour[light armour untill then]]
2.1.2 Warrior[Axe/Heavy armour[light armour untill then]]
2.1.3 Rogue[Daggers/Light armour]
more to come, if you want to know more, pm me
2.2Mage sub-paths
2.2.1.Sorcerer[red way]
2.2.2.Necromancer[Dark way]
2.2.3.Healer[crystal way]
2.2.4.Enchanter[Brown/Azure]
again if you want to know more, pm
2.3Craftsman with sub paths
2.3.1Weapon crafter[utill then, just stocks]
2.3.2Shield crafter[utill then, just stocks]
2.3.3Armour crafter[utill then, just stocks]
2.4Miner with sub paths
2.4.1 Ore miner
2.4.2 Valuable materials miner [gems]
2.5Merchant
2.5.1Weapons merchant
2.5.2Armour merchant
2.5.3Misc. merchant
2.5.4Potion merchant
and more to come, if you want to hear more, PM me
3.You give them starting equipment apropriate to their class
for fighters [basic ss for soldier, basic axe for warrior, basic dagger for rogue, and so on, and armour]
for mages[glyphs]
for crafters [tools, books, who knows?]
for miners [tools]
for merchants[some trias and tell them how to start]
after this is done, make a starting quest depending on their alligment and on their chosen proffesion, again if you need help, PM me
here\'s an example:
lawfull good fighter-help clean out the sewers of rats, reach lvl 1 in chosen weapon and bring 5 rat hides as proof
chaotic evil sorcerer go and terrorize the wild life reach lvl 1 redway and bring some animal parts proof
and so on....
after they done this you give them some final tips and they\'re ready to go on their way, they have basic equipment in their chosen profesion and they have some trias 300 from the questions and 300-400 from the first quest
well that about wraps it
--Makita

Xilix,
     I want you to know that what you are doing, is ruining the Rp-value of the game. I\'m not just saying this, i\'m argumeting below.
     One problem is that you help new players, ok i can agree to that, but you claim you teach them how to roleplay, which you don\'t.
      you teach them your ideea of roleplay, wich really isn\'t adequate for the current state yliakum is in, for there is the problem, most [90%] people that learn roleplay from you will orient their character towards good-alligments, and that is a problem
      I have completed a study and have found out that over 90% of all active RP-ers in planeshift are good alligned and with more good people coming from your direction the number is increasing
      My point is that for a RP-world to trully be rp, a certain ballance needs to be kept, meaning the number of good alligned players should be equal [or almost] with the number of evil alliged players, otherwise, the whole game purpose will fall to what it is now:
bashing the skull of that rogue ro gladiator or mercenary 24/7
i am playing this game for 5 months now and my skills are as follows:
14-sword
15-light armour
11-melee
i hit for about 50 damage
i\'m seeing players that have started under you tutelage that hit for 200-250 damage and have only started a week ago
      And i believe that that\'s why this happens, because of the shortage of evil-alligned players, if more evil alligned players would be available, then the ballance would start shaping, would start taking form, and then, mostly because of conflict, the game would become a lot more entertaining.
     And as for the economy crisis you are creating, you really give far too much trias for rewards, i mean what\'s the point of stealing if i can get far too much from you just for completing one of you insignificant quests.
     As for a finallization for this message, i would like to stress some more on the ballance issue, for a any world to  work, real or virtual, the ballance of alligments must be kept, the good ones and the evil ones must cancel each other out, and the neutral ones should allways shift just to preserve the neutrality.
     I have stated my point, i would see what that has earned not me, but the entire planeshift community

                                                                   Makita



Postscriptum:
for some reason, the forum won\'t let me make paragraph, so my letter won\'t look quite lettery (

actually, it is quite possible to use pvp or pk without killing the RP value of the game, and that is easy:
-zones
Zones for pvp and zones for stealing
zones for pvp could be something like a war going on or something, or maybe on some shady parts of town, where thieving could be enabled
by using certain zones, you should be safe; and of course some warning like a post or something:
\"Warning, point of no return\"
or
\"Warning, cross this line and you enter a warzone\"
or some sort of militia office where they could warn you on stuff, with lots of books like:
\"   the sewers
for as long as Hydlaa existed, so had the more shady elements of the city, most of them seemed to be very drawn to the sewers, you should be very carefull when you enter there, because all maner of thieves and pickpockets run there.\"

or something similar for other zones like behind the temple, or behind jayose\'s lybrary, or maybe down into the  lower levels of the laanx dungeon [the mines]
there are a lot more zones that can be used, these are mere examples, and considering the pre-beta state of the game, i\'m sure many more will be added
so basically, the ideea would be to add certain free pvp, pk and thieving zones and maybe warn players when they enter them