I use axes, but make my own (don't bother me in game, I'm not selling).

I don't think with the currrent costs to train axe crafting, the time it takes to dig your own materials or cost to buy them make it viable to try to market a 160q axe. I think you have to get quality to closer to 250. At that point people will pay more along the lines of the what it costs to train and make.

I followed drrdoombot's advice and just typed typed the following in my browser:

http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CB_Mac_019a.dmg.torrent

It gave me the bittorent download. I'm running a G4 using 10.4.10 and it works.

When the gold rush took off prices for ore were in flux and finally seemed to have settled down where they are. Why? because most miners seem to feel that is a fair price and most smelters seem to feel it is a fair price. Most miners seem to want to unload their ore as quickly as possible to get back to the mines. On occasion I see miners dropping the price hoping to get someone to buy their load quickly instead of standing around waiting to find a buyer willing to pay a higher price.

I mine and smelt my own gold ore when I need tria so I don't have a vested interest in the price of gold ore other than the impact it has on people willing to mine ore and create steel at an affordable price.

But if I did decide to buy ore I would have to look at the time and effort involved as the price goes up. If I dig 10 ore and smelt it myself I make 6080 trias. If I buy it at 400 then I have to smelt 29 ore. If I buy it for 500 I have to smelt 61 ore. If I'm able to mine 30 ore in one trip to the mines I make 18240 tria or I have to smelt 183 ore bought at 500 tria apiece. I prefer the trip to the mine.

The only way for miners to get the higher price is a union that no other miner is willing to buck. But at that point most of your smelters may just start to mine their own ore.

Yes, I do know of one quest that can go different directions. I went one direction, a friend went another.

Great job, very creative quests.

On topic.

I do think the pvp room should be given some time for development and not tossed as everyone doesn't immediately like it. Everyone doesn't have to like every aspect of PS. Everyone doesn't have to go in there just as everyone is not required to go fight an ulber or required to sit in the tavern and play groffletoe.

Adding the gladiator in there has attracted people willing to take more risk. If he were in a different room then people would be camping him. You take a risk in trying to camp in the pvp room.

I think too that a number of people are still just finding out about it in game. We have creative individuals who may come up with some rp use for the room once given a chance to think about it.

One thing you might consider is marking the room from above. If you are in the stands you might accidently drop down not knowing you were jumping in to the pvp room.

I think it would be good to give this concept some time. Maybe people will start to use it and maybe they won't but at least it was an attempt to give everyone something new. This was provided to us to see if we could be creative enough to use it. It shouldn't be up to the devs to somehow force us to use it.

Give the PS team some credit.

Trying to get back to the original question. I'm trying to leave out the doubt I had that someone had made only 2 or 3 trips to the mine, had spent hours digging and then had all days worth of work disappear. But that's just me.

Is the question one of intent?

Was there a player one that intentionally led the rogue to Trasok's with the idea of killing a crafter or is that just suppossed?

If I'm running fom a rogue and dissapear over that horizon and then the rogue drifts on and kills someone am I interfering with that individual? It would seem to me that under a strict definition of the rules that it if I am unable to deal with an NPC and that NPC goes on to interfere with someone then I could be seen as guilty of violation of those rules.

So back to the question, if I am player one then am I guilty or innocent if the crafter dies based on my intent? In one scenario he has been interfered with and in the second scenario he is a victim of fate.

Hoping not to incur the wrath of the moderator, I point out another thread that relates to wearing armor, helmets and carrying weapons while crafting.

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=28167.0


I would think Trasok's to be not as safe as Harnquists as it is in a smaller town. When I go to Trasok's I expect it more likely that I might be attacked on the journey. I don't think it is out of line for a rogue to get in to Trasok's. Maybe he didn't have to kill Trasok, he could have climbed in through a window. Obviously he knew what he was doing as he was able to slaughter a crafter. A cafter who can't defend himself should have stayed at Harnquist's.