Jeraphon, I am so sorry,     Posting without re-reading the posts !

                                                Won't happen again

                           Thanks to the Devs for quickly fixing this oversight !

Greetings

     If answering is not a spoiler, can anyone confirm or deny the existence of a Charisma trainer for levels over 120 ?


                                                                                 Thanks

Hi

    Hey, I'm not complaiing but, When I logged out I had 2 stacks of 4 bronze stocks, 1 single bronze stock, and 9 bronze ingots.
When I logged in I went mining for gold. upon filling up with 32 Gold Ore, I decided to check weight of my bronze.
   The is what I found.
            1 single bronze stock is now iron stock.
            9 bronze ingots are now 9 gold ingots.
 This an I'm not even trained in Alchemy! Let me know if I am wrong, but I don't think metals should change from one type to
another for no reason. Now, I had just leveled to Metallurgy lvl 30, maybe I have new tricks I don't know about!

                                                               Curious !!??

Thanks for the Info

    However, was wondering if they disappear during certain times of the day. Then appear at others. I have seen
figures with "light blue" names around Harn's sometimes and not others. Also when searching for NPC's for quest
am told they are in a certain area, but not when I have looked

                                                                      Thanks

          Zan, and Zanzibar, Please except my sincere apology. Not the way to make friends and influence people.

You judge me wrongly Zan, I said,

 "I admire your Society of Vaalnor Roleplay model, as I do that of the Dark Empire. They both have a place in the game."

You can't really fault me for saying that. I continue,

 "Your vision for the world of Planeshift may be different than mine, and there is nothing wrong with that."

You can't really fault that statement either, I continue

  "Just be careful not to impact players that do not share your vision. If they choose to play with you fine,
   but don't alter play for others."

  That statement is the one you had a problem with.

Zan asks:
  " Now about your last remark ... mind pointing out to me how I might be forcing other players to play things my way
when they don't want to? If I'm doing it I'm completely not aware of this and would like to correct that."

    Please excuse me, I was not clear enough. I did not mean to accuse your guild nor DE of anything, it was simply
a general plea, to all groups with a grand storyline for thier RP. I have not had my play impacted by any guild in
Planeshift, and do not know any character who has, although I have read about some, here in the forums.

   Forget all the BS I wrote about "Good Guys organize and fight evil, etc" in my first post. This discussion provoked thoughts
in me, and my thinking about the subject, has evolved, during the course of these posts. After all I was the only one posting
that was concerned (thus my comment, that my thought's had not provoked a 2-sided discussion. I don't count myself)
   We are all here to have fun and enjoy Planeshift. Let's not get too serious, even if you have spent considerable time
constructing the mods, that you find enhances your experience. It is after all, just a game.

           I have nothing else to add to this "discussion", and concede to the impeachable logic and wit, of the debators of
the opposing view.
                                  May the Azure Sun, brighten your day, light your path, and bring you immense Joy !

                                                                   

Citizens, Brothers and Sisters, This is supposed to philospohical in nature and not mean spirited, or disrespectful in any way.
I know the most vocal critics of this post have been ranking members of the Dark Empire, what else would you expect them
to say about a post such as mine?

     Everyone is entitled to RP Planeshift, in any way that they choose. The Planeshift world is rich and varied, and has
the potential to keep us all amused. Maybe too much so. A person's character, can have good or bad alignment, They
can affect a few other players with the way they RP. They are quickly identified and avoided, if they attempt to scam
you, etc.
    Guilds are a collection of players gathered together to RP a common theme, learn from each other, and enjoy
each other's company. It can add a new dimension to the game.  Guilds can also be a powerful force in the game.
Guilds are the creation of it's founder, his/her RP extended to a group format. A guild is only as strong/weak as the
founder's vision and embraced by a strong/weak collection of other players. The "best" guilds seem to have all the
"best" players. It's the vision of the founder that attracts these players, the players stay because they get something
out of the guild, it adds something extra to the game. In the members eyes, it is essentially a "mod" to the game.
They exist with thier friends in a game slightly different than that of players who are not in the guild. This can be a
good thing if it doesn't impact the play of others in Planeshift. However, guilds that are founded on the premise that
they are going to change Planeshift into thier founder's own RP vision, could have unanticipated consequences for
the average player that does not share the guilds vision. It depends on the power of the vision and those players
who share it. Have your guild, roleplay as you like, enjoy the world you've created for yourselves, just don't expect
me, a non-member, to enjoy it also. Do not expect me or others to stand-by and watch as you remake Planeshift
as you see fit.

 Jan 2005, It was asked:
"about ur global domination project, how u gonna conquer and destroy all the guilds in PS with only 8 members :rolleyes" Ashamn

Answer:
"It may not be possible but we still have the ambition to do it. Thats what really counts, and thats the foundation of the guild"
Princess Aelya

From present day Website:

                                    "the dark ones are gathered in their quest for domination and control"

                       "Through cooperation and solid leaderance we shall evolve to claim everything Vodùl created"


      This may seem like a big deal about nothing, but,  "Mighty Oaks, from little acorns grow",  and from another
cliche, "nip it in the bud" Keep your RP, have fun with your guild, just bring down the vision to only include yourselves, please.

                                                                             Back to the Game !

Hello Good Citizens

    Beware! - There are those who are hidden and are bent on control. They are well organized and well funded. They
remain hidden. They do not mind lying, cheating, stealing, or murdering. They have plans, and they intend mastery over all.
   Opposing them is an unorganized loosely confederated bunch of "good guilds" Nice people surely, but it takes better
organization to fight good organization. Are you "good guilds" going to let the "secret guilds" rule ? No !, you say, we
will fight the good fight! Guild Wars ? with Individual Combat ? Following rules ? Who are you kidding ? yourselves ? It will
take the "good guilds" some disrespect, depreciated value as seen by new players, and yes, loss, before they awake. When
they do they will realize they need to ban together NATO vs Warsaw Pact style. They need to form an uber organization
similiar, but better, than the Dark Empire. They need to recruit quality serious, players, not just anyone who wants to
belong. There can be guilds for those folks, the "good guilds" can continue the good work towards all new players, but
during this coming crisis, they need to grow strong, prosper, defend thier rights, thier members, and thier "turf". As an
interested outsider. I see people picking sides, and the lure of the dark side is growing and becoming ever popular. Have
some guilds as your "farm teams", in baseball lingo, pick the best to join your cause against evil, but put-up or shut-up,
and resign yourselves to be also rans, in a game ruled by The Dark Powers !

                                                       Mean't to generate discussion, and provoke thought, lets hear it !