When I play PS, I am one of the 24 hour players. I have maxed every skill that interests me as much as I want. This suggestion is not to address my personal problems, and it is not very relevant to PS in it's current state.

It is an idea for the devs to consider for the long-term development of the game. I'm sure enough has been said, and they can consider the merits for themselves.

We should be able to RP an insomniac, without being one ourselves.

The only question is, should you get a point for every hour (period) or should you get a point for every hour spent playing.

It should absolutely be every hour that passes, regardless of whether you are playing, otherwise it defeats the whole point. I still think logistically a weekly reset will give more people an even chance of spending their points.

I don't know why do you want so desperately stop PLers.

Actually I agree with all your points regarding this. I myself am serious PLer, and an RPer. However, I would be happy to sacrifice the benefits of my PLing for a more naturally progressing community.

To people who RP a lot and train much less: ...
If you never spent enough time on training, you can never call yourself a good warrior.

There is a lot of debate about this. Personally I cooperate with people RPing good warriors/whatevers if they have earned it through a history of RP. They have time limitations and they have sacrificed levelling so we dont miss out on all of their good RP. My RP experience is much richer and I deal with a much wider range of characters because of it. What my suggestion seeks to do is make it possible for such players to keep up with levelling and thus more closely allign actual char skill with what is RPed without sacrificing the richiness of RP.

Point 2]
Your idea only slow the process. If you stay at side and look at everything you won't really bother about individuals. It won't matter for you how long did it take to some people to reach some skill rank. You will care about having both trained and untrained in the character base. And as i said, you are only slowing the process, people will still learn multiple skills, but it will take them a year instead of 4 months.

This idea will not slow the process, it will even it out. Ideally it should still take 4 months to learn skills which take 4 months now. Make them easier to level, but make it so you can only do so much levelling in a week. The point is, all dedicated players interested in levelling will be able to progress at a similar rate over time, whether they play 28 hours a week or 140 hours a week. I would suggest enough points in a week to enable about 14-21 hours of levelling (2-3 hours a day, or if it suits you, 10 hours on saturday and 30min other days, with the rest of the time free to RP). Players who dont want to level still wont, but many more players will have a chance to progress in a meaningful way if they want to.

It will create a better illusion of all characters perpetually existing in the world of PS, and it will encourage people who might usually only PL to explore the world of player interaction, learn to RP, and enjoy the game rather than desperately trying to keep ahead.

Hmm I dunno, it seems to me that levelling isn't as easy as alot of people make it out to be.

I wasn't saying it's too hard too easy to level. The point is, no matter how easy or hard it is, if some newbie can spend 24hrs a day doing it, they'll end up ahead of a 3 years player. What counts is not how many levels you have, but how much levelling-time you have under your belt.

I actually dont think it should be too hard to level. It should be rewarding, and I think it should progress faster than RL, even with weekly limits. We need to be able to RP the lives of our characters faster than we live our own.. or we'll never have time.

Quite wise, Cyl.

And from the ground up and the top down, PS is all about RP. This means the grass-roots community are being encouraged by the Devs to support encourage and educate new players in RPing, so that even if they prefer to PL, they can understand and respect RP. If there is disrespect to the point of disrupting, then it willl be a small part of the community and the GMs will be able to keep things bareable.

I'm not worried about the future of the PS. Don't look at other, bigger MMO's and fret. PS is different in fundamental ways. The seed planted was different. The roots that have grown are different, and the tree that springs forth from it will be different.

 

I'm mostly in agreement with Drahlian on this one. The H&R system may not be what the devs intended, but it's probably better, and it gives training and skill a great balance.

It's good skill is important. Making combat purely the realm of PLers would be lame.

Of course Drahlian and I are biased for this action-packed format because we're good at it. If two people have uber training, but one has no skill, their training is of no worth, which should not be the case.

I think solutions should be simple-stupid, so I'm going to suggest a bar which fills up really quickly if you run at all, and takes a bit of time to drain. Unless this bar is empty, your strikes are far less accurate and powerful. Arcadey people can make use of their skills, but not to the point of neutralising character training.

This would reduce the impact of hit-and-run melee, without removing movement which enriches combat and adds a lot to the strategy of fights. Why couldn't someone good at climbing go up something high then rain arrows on the swordsmaster? When climbing is implemented, and jumping buffs agility, and chars can glide etc., this will add even more. Even now it means players have to think, not just go blindly into a fight because they PLed their SS and they will Pwn you.

As before, my view on a usable combat system is that it needs to be either a fully manual or a fully automeated one.

Give players a choice. Fully automated can only be accepted when the chars are toe-to-toe and they can't move until combat is finished. Manual can be accepted by players wanting to run around. It can be initiated from any distance, allowing chases and hunts.

What if the game mechanics would be made so that they are meant to be 'exploited' like that, making them a part of combat mechanics?

The single best decision Id Software ever made for the success of their Quake franchise was formalising the strafejump/bunnyhopping bug, instead of 'fixing' it.

Devs, if you love us, set us free.

OW MAN 

Rivers n Lakes - proper ones!! *dies*

 
Those shots are so beautiful. EVEN BIGGER WILDERNESS ROAD? - and by the look of it, more prettier. uuhhhhhhhh someone kick me!

I am ecstatic.

A sign is wedged proudly in the grass near Harnquist's:
There seems to be a footprint where an angry shadow-lubber may have booted it.

No More Shadow Celebration

To celebrate the success of the Party to the underdark, the averted invasion, and the continued life of Hydlaa, we will have a fair in Hydlaa Plaza.

Bring your mugs and your pets and your best fireworks (show off sparkly spells) to the Hydlaa Plaza around the Fountain. Everybody to run around and drink and cheer for the peace we can all enjoy again! Bring your cameras!

[ 2100 GMT, Saturday 3 June ]

When you come, don't forget to /shout out and remind the bystanders of the event!



[ For the full tale of what occurred with the Party in the Underdark, read here:
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23345.120 ]