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StitchedChin

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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2008, 09:59:23 pm »
What's a klingon?
Somewhere a Trekkie has a heartache...

Personally, I think settings and descriptions of races should be as general as possible, especially for a game with a changing population.  Just because you are a Stonebreaker doesn't mean you have to be stubborn, only good at mining, untrusting of anyone taller than you, etc.  I also don't agree with concrete limits to a race as well, there are always some that can stand out from the crowd.  You can't roleplay a dwarf that is 3 meters tall, but you should be able to accomplish whatever you work at, whether it is magic, painting, archery, climbing, etc.  Trying to stereotype fictional characters, just seems like a losing battle.

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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2008, 10:28:09 pm »
What's a klingon?
Somewhere a Trekkie has a heartache...

Personally, I think settings and descriptions of races should be as general as possible, especially for a game with a changing population.  Just because you are a Stonebreaker doesn't mean you have to be stubborn, only good at mining, untrusting of anyone taller than you, etc.  I also don't agree with concrete limits to a race as well, there are always some that can stand out from the crowd.  You can't roleplay a dwarf that is 3 meters tall, but you should be able to accomplish whatever you work at, whether it is magic, painting, archery, climbing, etc.  Trying to stereotype fictional characters, just seems like a losing battle.

I full-heartedly agree. I always try to stick to these stereotypes, but I find it a bit hard to do, as well as boring.

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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2008, 10:38:27 pm »
Stand out from the crowd? That's about the only thing we might be a little bit envious of you taller people.
Apart from that, we've got all the advantages: we're closer to the ores, in combat we can launch a frontal attack on the kneecaps while ducking all counterattacks... need I say more?
As for the supposed rivalry between  Hammers and Stones - that's internal, a friendly family fued if you want (but not even that), no problem at all. Please don't make a problem where there isn't one.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2008, 10:41:47 pm by Grimr »
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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2008, 12:26:16 am »
       If you mean by rivalry that we should go about our day killing each other simply out of our own  blind selfish pride over our differences, we may have to go about attacking everyone for just the same reason. I doubt very much you'll see that. That stubborn pride that you mention only means we prefer to keep to ourselves or our kin for the most part. That, by all means doesn't limit or restrict us from being an active part of the community'

       If you wish to see the Dwarven rivalry at it's best, watch the marketplace and auctions closely. I often find myself being out-bid or undersold by the very Dwarves whose company I  enjoy. Then, again I do the same.  Now, haggling with these guys trying to get the best part of sale has been one of the funnest aspects of this game. This is not limited to Hammerwielder vs Stonebreaker however. Just a friendly rivalry between each other and is seldom anymore offensive then an arm wrestling match. You beat me once doesn't mean you'll beat me twice.

     The two races are different, but as you said neither are from the areas presently in game. So one would tend to mingle with others of similar traits or skills. Being both of the Dwavern race in general and having a common interest in the ore, metal, and crafting trades. I think in reality you would find them working  together out of common goals, and interests with each other more then other races. The rivalry you suggest is of some separated, unschooled, secluded sect that had been brought up in generations of hatred for some long ago forgotten offense.

     The term "Brodr," Broder," or "brother," are all shorts, slang for "brotherhood."  Under the meaning of those who share a common bond. This does not imply by any means that we are family.
        I don't use the term "Brodr," but I do use "Brother" as a greeting or a title of respect to other dwarves regardless of their race. I for one see no offense or difference to that vs "Mi-lady, Lady, Miss, Sir, Mister, Master, Lord," or any other title used to greet or address someone with a form of respect. Only that I limit it's use to the Dwarven races, my guild, and two other characters who arrived in Hydlaa near the same time as I and we grew together through our infancy. [who are not dwarves by the way]

     You did make a point that once the graphics are added to Hammerweilder's characters we would see a change in how many characters are played. Of this you may be right. But, keep in mind that many of us have already bonded our friendship of each other. So it may not be as big of a deal as you propose. There will be some offspring guilds that will form up exclusively for either Stonebreaker's or Hammerwielder's. Making room for the type of rivalry that you have mentioned. But, through it all I think you will find that the Dwarven guilds that exists will weather that storm well.

    That, all being said if you wish to play out the rivalry that you wish to see, that is entirely up to you. As an individual dwarf that is at your discretion. I would advise as an elder Stonebreaker.  "Dat,  yah be aware o' where yah be scratchin' yah line. B'cause, yah may just find yahself bein' held ta it's confine's."



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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2008, 12:35:22 am »
What about the girls?
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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2008, 12:39:46 am »
*Jaycol watches what he calls the girls he hates to get clouted

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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2008, 01:06:52 am »
I wish Dwarven women were a more popular character to play, but they are scarce.  Xillix posted the registrations of the races by gender on page 3:
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=33915.30

I think I know of less than a handful these days.  I'd think they are pretty strong, supportive and protective.  They'd be able to whoop up on any Male Dermorian, but then again who can't... pah, ha, just kidding.  I'd imagine they'd fight along side any of their husbands or brothers, and get their hands dirty building, creating, managing, and digging just like the men.  Not sure of any friendly, dwarven nickname, but Sister has been used.  And usually if they bring you beer, if they bring 5, 3 for her, 2 for you.  If they just got a better mesh than those diaper butt pants and could maybe sit, maybe they'd be a little more popular to play.   :D


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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2008, 01:48:10 am »
Yes, that is a shame. I think I have met or seen maybe a dozen or so. There were more females in the other versions then there are now. I would like to see more.
"Dat would add a lot more zest ta da kettle." Jaycol chuckles.
I think it would make it better for the Dwarfen community as a whole.  That for sure would cause a ruckus of rivalry.

Jaycol dreams of sturdy lass that could step into a brawl, so he could finish his beer.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2008, 01:34:01 pm by jaycol »

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Re: Dwarven Clans
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2008, 05:36:27 am »
In extreme examples of what the cultures lean towards, I like to say Hammers are closer to Klingons (pride in individual strength and a love of battle), and Stones are closer to Hippies (pride in community and a love of hard work and progress). In both cases, there is a strong pride in just being a Dwarf.

Just came across this and I thought it might be of interest to point out that this Apollonian and Dionysian dichotomy is present throughout much of our literature and folklore, in the PS world and outside of it. Talad vs. Laanx, then Elves vs. Dwarves, Hammerweilders vs. Stonebreakers, Ylians vs. Enkis, etc. Whats more, it would be perfectly valid to throw out the whole alignment idea, take a wholly morally nihilistic view and judge your character on a spectrum based on this. It would not only be perfectly valid but might add more to the depth of your character.
I suggest the statue of Laanx gets turned into a statue of Parallo <3. An NPC could never replace the huge hole he left in my heart when he died  :'(