Xacha's Vision...

[Elegrand]

I just noticed that in the races page it says that Xacha have normal vision, but it also says that the reason their skin is so pale is because they have come from a land where light was rarely present. So shouldn\'t that mean that they would have nightvision?

[Trianas]

ahhh yes check the wish list and add that to the endukai post

[FESFES]

lol I guess they had too many races with night vision so they gave them normal vision, they could just change where they come from........

[karakth]

But then they\'d need to change the colour of their skin. Perhaps their eyes have adapted to the new light-filled world  

[Kiva]

Originally posted by Elegrand
I just noticed that in the races page it says that Xacha have normal vision, but it also says that the reason their skin is so pale is because they have come from a land where light was rarely present. So shouldn\'t that mean that they would have nightvision?

\"Some old Xacha tell about a land where light was very dim and not always present, and that can be the reason why their skin is very pale and similar to the people who are born underground.\"

Now, there\'s a diffrence between reading the text your way, or reading the text as it is on the page.

First of all, only the old Xacha tell about this place where sometimes there was no light, and at other times, there wasn\'t a lot of it, thus their skin is pale due to the lack of pigment coloring. This has no effect on their vision. They have simply adapted to not being able to see a lot, just like you would do if you were sitting it a dimly lit room.

So, there\'s nothing in the text that indicates whatsoever that the Xacha should have nightvision, and there would be absolutely no reason in giving it to them.

[Elegrand]

I see your point Gronomist, and a good point it is.

[Stydracos]

While I agree with Gronomist completely it would be interesting to see Xacha have a slight vision alteration not nightvision though more a defect.

In high light they could be slightly blinded, in dim light their vision could be slightly enhanced and perhaps colours could have a washed out effect. Alternatively maybe they could hear slightly better?

Ok so I didn\'t add much to the thread, hopefully no one gets upset about me posting in this quiet thread, an idea struck and I couldn\'t resist not posting.

[shangralah]

I think it would be more creative if xacha had specail abilities or there stats greatly improved during night. That would also mean there stats drop during the daytime because of the sensativity of there eyes(because of the rarity of light)

[Adeli]

I think over time, the Xacha\'s sensitive vision would have disappeared through exposure to light. Evolution (not from apes to men, but adaptive evolution) can be reversed, so the sight they had developed long ago in the dark, would go away with prolonged exposure to night. This is how I understood Grono\'s post. The Xacha that do have ultrasensitive sight, would be very old, that is my understanding.

Stydracos, I\'ve long been accused of pedanticism...
\"couldn\'t resist not posting is a double negative\"
it means, you couldn\'t stop yourself from not posting... the not is redundant.

[Stydracos]

The main idea behind posting was not to talk about evolution in too much detail otherwise I\'d have been comparing the azure crystal with our sun and suggesting the Xacha\'s need sunburn cream.

@Adeli : Thankyou for pointing out the double negative,  I\'ll try to remember that when I next post at 2am. Infact I think from now on I can sleep tight knowing you\'ll correct my english for me .

[Bobkat]

i personally don\'t think  you can leave out adaptive or standard evolution because really thats the focus of this whole thread, they have pale skin because where they had lived there was very little light and thats evolutionary  

if i\'m not mistaken a major pigmentation change takes a few hundred thousand years to happen in a group of people (this is a very slow adaptation because it is usually non-essential to survival) where something like vision or smell can change in as little as a few years (because they are nessasary for survival)

if the Xacha had just crawled out into the sun this morning then yes giving them nightvision and pain to light makes sense but if they\'ve been up in the sun for even a few generations then the current Xacha haven\'t known anything else but the azure lit world

just some thoughts
Bob

[Stydracos]

Yup I didn\'t say leave it out, I just haven\'t gone into too much detail for fear of bringing up too many questions. (the old answering a question leaves us with nothing but more questions)

We shouldn\'t forget behavioural factors as well as environment have their effects on evolution. If the light was in fact too painful I don\'t think becoming nocturnal or seeking the dim light areas would be such a far fetched thought. If true it would suggest they might still be in a similar state to their arrival.

However the problem with this is we can hypothesize all we like I mean hypothesizing on their evolution we might think about the types and concentration of rod and cones cells on a Xacha\'s retina; or they might have relied on other senses (which are enhanced or not). I wasn\'t planning on that depth of detail though, so I apologise.

I was looking at it simpler more as a suggestion for a story then a strict reality grounded concept. It interested me as an interesting variation on night / daytime vision of the other races. Afterall it only become feasible if someone in charge say \"yes I like that idea\".

*edit* ... early morning posting again ...
just fixing up the obvious errors before my english is reviewed again */edit*

[Reikar]

Since they did come from the under world i think that their eyes should atleast be more adaptive to the darkness. Basicly instead of going black and white and being able to see night like day (I believe that\'s how night vision will work on PS, can\'t remember for sure), the night just doesnt get as dark for them.