anti cheating and anti noob solution

[Shadowfalcon]

IP banning isnt a solution, for obvious reasons. I can change mine in under 15 seconds. but MAC (Media access control, NOT MACintosh ) banning is a very permanent way of protecting the PS world.

[SeiferRune]

The whole anti-noob solution is okay but I don\'t agree on just pushing them to the side, atleast start them off in a town and let them leave whenever. I for one would never decline a noob for help... but hey I want from a noob to hmm lets say intermediate/expert in a day (Not that there is much to learn but how to \'exploit\' all the roof jumping bugs. I am sure all the Dev\'s know of this so no need to write a report.)

but yeah back to it, I won\'t decline a noob if he/she asks for help but instead show him/her around the place and the sort of tricks they can do, (Like I have showed atleast 7 people how to roof jump.) We should all keep up PS\' good reputation as I have now made many friends (GO KEPTO AND MACHAMARU!! oh and infernal :S hehe).

It makes you feel better when a noob says, \"Wow thanks guys everyone answers your question straight away, I heard they do that.\" and it just makes you feel great that the community is so helpful and nice to each other, unlike those fools who tell everyone to \'rack\' off etc.. it\'s just not going to help.

Well moving on from that, anti-cheating can be implemented into the game but it won\'t be until later stages I guess when they find someone who can write a cheatbuster script just like many FPS Multiplayer games have.

One thing I am worried about seeing is people that use macro\'s and bots to keep their character mining and training. That will ruin it because you will have people gaining a load of experience and they are sleeping in real life! It is retarded

Well that is my essay on Anti-Noob and Anti-Cheating.

[Zellgadess]

Man, your the greatest!
A++
What you speak is so ture, if only there were more people as wise as you on PS!!! aaahhh

[SeiferRune]

hehe thanks Zell, I do what I can. =P

Well I hope there are more people, people that won\'t turn their backs on noobs by pushing them into a town where they cannot leave MANY people hate tibia because of that reason as your only fighting rats. I used to play it, 2nd day I got bored and uninstalled it. I played my friends account, it is alright when your out in the proper wild but the whole noob thing is still so stupid. So like usual there should just be a regular spawn point for first time users at a town and they can leave whenever they want. That is all we need to do!

[Schlaxo]

Well I am playing Tibia for 2 years now, and the \"noob-island\" (aka Rookgard ) doesn\'t help very much in my opinion. In Tibia the most new players are getting annoyed of the noob island since its a big waste of time..

In planeshift there should be a Tutorial Garden or something like that, so noobies can learn the game and older players which want to start a new char haven\'t got to spend so much time at getting off from the noob isle.

[Kiva]

In my oppinion, the best way to get newbies started is to simply drop them in the middle of everything, ignore them and see if they can find out how to play. If they can\'t, they\'re weak and they can just go play something else.

Well on a more serious note, a help file is of course needed, so people have something to refer to. But making a whole seperate island isn\'t necessary at all. It\'s just like real life. If you don\'t do anything yourself, and try to learn how to play the game, you wont get anywhere. There\'s no mom and dad here to help you.

[Toadhead]

Originally posted by Gronomist
In my oppinion, the best way to get newbies started is to simply drop them in the middle of everything, ignore them and see if they can find out how to play. If they can\'t, they\'re weak and they can just go play something else.

What if you see a child in a river, but he can\'t swim?
Will you let him find out how to swim?
And when he dies you\'ll just say: \"Well.. he was weak, he would never be able to survive in this hard world\".

Thats just the same. No! I think we need to help these poor guys who doesn\'t understand the game even after reading the help file, but realy want to play the game. Is it so hard to answer a few questions and show him how you need to do things?

[Kiva]

Originally posted by Toadhead

Originally posted by Gronomist
In my oppinion, the best way to get newbies started is to simply drop them in the middle of everything, ignore them and see if they can find out how to play. If they can\'t, they\'re weak and they can just go play something else.

What if you see a child in a river, but he can\'t swim?
Will you let him find out how to swim?
And when he dies you\'ll just say: \"Well.. he was weak, he would never be able to survive in this hard world\".

Thats just the same. No! I think we need to help these poor guys who doesn\'t understand the game even after reading the help file, but realy want to play the game. Is it so hard to answer a few questions and show him how you need to do things?

Have you ever heard Darwin\'s theory about Survival of the fittest? It\'s harsh, but it\'s the truth. If you can\'t swim, don\'t jump into the water, and the same with a MMORPG. If you can\'t figure out how to play a game that takes brains to figure out, find something less challenging, like WoW or SWG.

By the way, I\'m a horrible swimmer so I don\'t go near the water myself. So the chances of me finding someone who is drowning aren\'t too high. But yes, I would help. And even though I think people should just start out in the middle of everything, I still help them out if they bother asking, right?

[Toadhead]

Originally posted by Gronomist
I still help them out if they bother asking, right?

so...
If they are unconscious (if I say it right becuase I have never used this word before), so they can\'t speak, you will just let them die? Thats what you say

but back to the topic,
I know that only the strongest will survive..
But thats no reason to not help the \"weaker\".

If someone need help you will need to give him help, thats my opinion.

[Kuiper7986]

well noobs are the future of Planeshift, they are the ones to keep the tradition alive, even when we stop playing one day. (yes its true, stop denying it). I say only teach the noobs just barely enough to survive, then just let them be afterwards...

[sesmi]

how about this idea from a game called wyvern:

the tutorial teachs you how to move and then you can just skip the rest by just wallking out the door.

but if you want to do it, you get rewarded (like a free level in 1 skill of your chioce )  and you can come back AT ANY TIME!!!! so if you forget how to do magic or something, you just go back to tutorial tower, and go to the magic room!!!! simple as that!!!!!

[Kiva]

Originally posted by Toadhead

Originally posted by Gronomist
I still help them out if they bother asking, right?

so...
If they are unconscious (if I say it right becuase I have never used this word before), so they can\'t speak, you will just let them die? Thats what you say

but back to the topic,
I know that only the strongest will survive..
But thats no reason to not help the \"weaker\".

If someone need help you will need to give him help, thats my opinion.

Well, what I meant with that is, that if someone asks me for help, I\'ll help them. Ingame, or here on the forums, that is. You shouldn\'t be taking things too literally, especially not when it includes sarcasm.

[Xordan]

Originally posted by Gronomist
You shouldn\'t be taking things too literally, especially not when it includes sarcasm.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit...

(Yeah, I couldn\'t help it )


Anyway, if someone asks nicely for help, you should give it. If someone is spamming \"G1mm3 t3h tR1z0rz!!!\" then you give them a good kicking.

[SeiferRune]

I ahve just been thinking... something that really annoys me ingame... people DONT read the help on the site and come in going \"How do I move?\" or \"Whats a crystal?\" they should read the site first BEFORE asking. So maybe we should stick a picture on the site saying \"LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME HERE>>> YES LEARN HOW TO SOLVE YOUR NOOBISH WAY>>> THIS MEANS YOU WONT HAVE TO HARASS MEMBERS WHO TOOK THEIR TIME TO READ THIS >>> CLICK HERE!!\" there simpe enough.

[Ikarsik]

shadowfalcon good idea =P MAC is better to ban than ip but you can still mask MAC address cant you?