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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2004, 02:01:31 am »
Thanks for that little note at the end jose, I was about to ask what it meant :).

Anyways, Toru is proof that there are people in the background who are loyal and have been here for a long time but just aren\'t in the foreground because they don\'t make themselves known.

Edit:  Tangerine, 15 people got chosen?  I\'ve heard 2 Fragnetics guys are there to represent Fragnetics (of course) but only about 7-8 Planeshifters...
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2004, 02:06:42 am »
Toru what I said wasnt aimed to you. Sorry if I made you cry :P
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2004, 02:17:55 am »
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Dude the only people (in my opinion) that have any right to complain are the mods that didnt get picked. Thats right, MODs didnt even get picked and just cuz you\'ve been inactive longer than others you think you should get in. I have been here since early july and have never seen you until now.


No No NO! No one has the right to complain not players, not mods, not ANYONE! The devs pick who they want because after all you didn\'t create this project..they did! Not you or anyone else has the right to tell a Dev whats what, especially  new people. So just settle down all you whiners, complainers and just let the work that needs to be done, get done!

Then we can all join in the fun together once its ready for us!

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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2004, 02:19:12 am »
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These testers are allowed to see the release art as a reward for their services.


Remember that the term \"release art\" includes all the new areas and models, etc. Part of our testing is looking at models and level design and pointing out the flaws and bugs in those also.

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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2004, 02:24:32 am »
In fact, the only things you are missing are art and the server database (containing things like settings).

You\'re perfectly welcome to test the engine from the CVS repository. You will probably find the same bugs that they find. The rest of the bugs are those that come with release issues. For example, testing the updater needs to be done in a release environment. They also need people to test the gameplay.

So what if the selection process is undemocratic? The PlaneShift project can do whatever it wants. They chose to make the code (engine) GPL. They chose to make the art closed, under a proprietary license. Now they choose to select people for testing--testing the game as a whole, engine + art. And in fact, they already had a loyal base of players in the GM\'s that were selected earlier. So it only seems logical that these proven loyal players test the closed alpha.

Whether you have been waiting a year, two years, three years, four years, or 1 month, just wait another few weeks and we will all be partying in Crystal Blue.

If nothing else, you should thank them for ironing out the bugs you will face. Let\'s hope we have a great release.
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2004, 02:29:49 am »
you know what, I really was going to add that :P but then I decided my post was getting to a comfortable length so I stopped. Apparently it was still too long for iceeey.

I suppose one thing that may have been found was that that darned dwarf kept stabbing himself in the throat... hopefully that has been fixed.

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2004, 03:01:57 am »
I see nothing wrong with the dwarf\'s actions... :baby:

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just wait another few weeks and we will all be partying in Crystal Blue.


Have you learned nothing?
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2004, 03:28:18 am »
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I see nothing wrong with the dwarf\'s actions... :baby:

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just wait another few weeks and we will all be partying in Crystal Blue.


Have you learned nothing?


i think we may be able to celebrat the new year in cb, and i can wait that long

ps.yes, i mean new year as in 2024


my how times have changed.....

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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2004, 03:50:10 am »
What I would do for the 2nd or 3rd phase is select @ least 5 people randomly, make a signup sheet then have the computer randomly pick @ least 3 to 5 or more lucky people & then no-one will say it\'s not fair, becouse they would have had a chance to test. but is really not up to me...

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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2004, 03:51:40 am »
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but is really not up to me...


That\'s right, which is exactly why it\'s not gonna happen.

Only n00bs don't quote themselves...
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2004, 03:58:26 am »
i like the devs choosing, more organized, dependable, etc.


my how times have changed.....

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2004, 04:25:26 am »
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No No NO! No one has the right to complain not players, not mods, not ANYONE! The devs pick who they want because after all you didn\'t create this project..they did! Not you or anyone else has the right to tell a Dev whats what, especially  new people. So just settle down all you whiners, complainers and just let the work that needs to be done, get done!

Then we can all join in the fun together once its ready for us!


Hmm you may have mis understood me. I was saying that no one should be complaining. And that aendar, xenia, and golmir deserved to.... look for bugs :P what fun
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2004, 04:43:57 am »
It\'s amusing to see how people react in the forum\'s to the final message of release and closed testing.  I\'m not saying it wasn\'t foreseeable.. but it\'s still interesting.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2004, 03:18:37 pm »
I find it an utopia to think of a selection process without the dissatisfaction of many of those that were left out. Fortunately enough, it seems that the community of PlaneShift has, in its majority, been significantly mature about the closed testing of the new release.

Realise, for all of those that \"BWM\" about not being picked, that it is ultimately the developer team\'s choice. It is their divine right, for having created the idea of the game and given it tangible shape.

Not to mention their admirable efforts as voluntary and unpaid developers.

There is no room for complaining, because they can do with their creation as they deem appropriate. They can limit who tests and who does not, as they can limit if willing to do so the number of players in the game once it is released. And even then, we cannot complain. We will always play by their rules (and rightfuly so) and if you do not agree with them, then I am afraid there is not much else to do.

It is more than enough that they go out of their way to allow the players to participate in EVERY stage of the process of development. Be it via forum, testing, or IRC. They could as well limit their public relations to the website and continue their work behind closed doors and at a comfortable pace, without allowing us to intrude.

Nonetheless, it is amusing - and commendable - to see how many people jump in the defense of the staff whenever someone is unreasonably demanding and selfish in regards to these matters.

Patience, as it has been said, is a godly virtue.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2004, 03:53:21 pm »
Toru wow ... welcome back :P
 Golbez! Oh man please add to your profile your AIM, MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger \"screenies\". I really really have to talk with ya :D
 About this problem here, I really can\'t understand why the he*l you\'re crying because you weren\'t selected. And you also say you\'re \"old enough in here\"! haha ...
 I really don\'t think I see your type to test the new version, I remember how you were in here.
 Anyway, do like us ... consider the boards here the actual game, role play in here, and play the game when the final version (I don\'t think there will be one, but the 1.0 is good) will come ...
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