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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2004, 01:02:44 am »
Why are we discussing the encryption merits of this? It only needs to last--AT MOST--a week. At worst, we\'ll have huge server loads.


Also, maybe we should have these people using it on the other filesharing networks also--Edonkey, Gnutella, etc.
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2004, 02:39:38 am »
Whoa, I wasn\'t expecting this much conversation.  I just wanted to throw the idea up for the Devs if they didn\'t already know.  If the Devs don\'t want to do this encryption stuff, they could release it to *trusted* people (i.e. mods) who wouldn\'t mind helping.  I\'m sure they will think of something.  I don\'t get the resources stuff so you can download fast.  I have a 1.7GHz with only 256MB RAM, and I download full speed.  Maybe I didn\'t understand that correctly.
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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2004, 03:13:51 am »
There really is no need to start a torrent early to build up seeds for downloading.  Already there are ~15 people with the full client (how many are in the closed test right now), another 20-30 will come in the next closed test phase, and then of course there are the devs.  If a few of them agree to start up a torrent and seed for it, everyone can get good speeds right away.

Besides, 200-300MB for a torrent is not large by any means, a week in advance would be overkill.
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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2004, 03:30:24 am »
Heh, the Sims 2 came out a week before launch on SuprNova.org!  Apparently Maxis was pretty mad about it, but there isn\'t much they cold do.  There were some issues, like not being able to build, but they were quickly resolved.  3.5 Gigs is just too much for me to download though...

After a few people get some of the donwload done, it will just keep getting faster and faster until everyone has it and nobody really downloads it anymore.  I hae another question though, will people w/ MB recieve and update, or do we have to re-download the entire game?
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2004, 03:44:25 am »
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I hae another question though, will people w/ MB recieve and update, or do we have to re-download the entire game?

Re-download. There is nearly nothing left of MB in CB, so you\'d have to \"update\" just about everything anyway so a complete re-download is more easy to do and the effort of making it \"updateable\" would be a waste.
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2004, 04:01:56 am »
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Then again, it\'d still take a while, especially if some sort of required delay were programmed in.
It\'s open source.


Just for the record, any encryption program they wrote would NOT use CrystalSpace and would be used only to distribute CB, not be a part of it. Therefore it would not have to be open source.

Back on topic: Ghostslayer is right, assuming of course, that the closed testers get the final version... Then again, there\'s also the option that the devs release the client all at once, but don\'t start a server up till a few days later. Most people will understand that if they wait they\'ll get better DLs. The devs and those that DL from the main site will start torrents and everything will be good. :)
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2004, 04:11:51 am »
People don\'t even have to be finished downloading really.  Most people\'s (if not everyones) upload is slower than their download.  Therefore, if they are half done, and start uploading, they willprobably finish downloading before they need to upload the final parts.  I guess it really depends on how many people, but after a few hours, I\'d say it woul all go smooth.  It\'s not like it will take ages, just a few hours, and then people will start downloading faster and faster and faster.  Then after the initial bulk of people, it will gradually decline, and eventualy you will probably have to use the HTTP, unless the devs keep seeding.
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2004, 04:40:45 am »
*Nodding, nodding* Yup, sounds good. Now the devs just have to do it...

P.S. On an unrelated note, I believe the new Blizzard download client is a torrent-based program... If the multibillionaires are using it, why not PS? :D
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2004, 07:34:25 am »
You can\'t use time delays anyway. Computer clocks are not guaranteed. You cannot make it check with a time server because that would be silly AND easily overriden. If you need to distribute it before the release(I still fail to understand why), just don\'t launch the server.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2004, 11:37:08 am »
Couldn\'t they release unencrypted the rar file, and just pause the signups?

Like only devs can create a new account until they release it officially?
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2004, 12:14:18 pm »
hmmmm ok so is the exact size all figured out yet i mean there is already the first wave in and so there must be a round number of Mbs it is now just in case cause still even using bit torrent and other speed up programs it will still take a long time for dail up users and still in turn need to find a cable/dsl user to dl from
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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2004, 04:15:48 pm »
I was hoping that if it were possible they could also have a BT download that is just the art to reward the faithful testers who have been puttering around with the CVS version and it\'s un-artyness...

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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2004, 04:16:43 pm »
I certainly hope this won\'t be the only way to download it.  My computer has an allergic reaction like I have *never* before seen to some programs.  No matter how many times I wipe it or how many components I change, I cannot get it to download a few files, and every single version of the BT client I\'ve tried stops at 99% downloaded and simply will *not* go anymore. >.<
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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2004, 05:20:43 pm »
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Already there are ~15 people with the full client (how many are in the closed test right now), another 20-30 will come in the next closed test phase, and then of course there are the devs.  If a few of them agree to start up a torrent and seed for it, everyone can get good speeds right away.

Besides, 200-300MB for a torrent is not large by any means, a week in advance would be overkill.


still alot for players who don\'t have dsl or cable. And 30ppl seeding over the world isn\'t much, knowing loads of ppl will download CB.

hehe, funny how one reply can turn a little thread in a big active discussion  8)
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2004, 05:31:39 pm »
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You can\'t use time delays anyway. Computer clocks are not guaranteed. You cannot make it check with a time server because that would be silly AND easily overriden.

I think it was meant to be a self-extracting archive that requires a password and will simply wait some time if you entered the wrong password before letting you try again. Still, with some creative programming, this delay could be gotten rid of, but as has been said, the server will IMO not be open and one week isn\'t all that long to be worth the effort. I\'d assume the ppl. who still do it would have earned a look at the 1337 content, if they manage to bust it within a week. :)
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If you need to distribute it before the release(I still fail to understand why), just don\'t launch the server.

To give everyone the option of an immediate start. The first few downloaders would otherwise be the only ones who don\'t have to wait 3 days to complete the download (which in itself isn\'t possible for everyone, especially if you pay per minute!), and also the ppl. on non-broadband connections wouldn\'t be at a disadvantage because they can as easily get it within a week as can broadband users.

Therefore, everyone who wishes can sign up immediately (thus swamping the server :P ), which is a good thing, for it\'s as fair as it can AFAICS get.

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I certainly hope this won\'t be the only way to download it. My computer has an allergic reaction like I have *never* before seen to some programs. No matter how many times I wipe it or how many components I change, I cannot get it to download a few files, and every single version of the BT client I\'ve tried stops at 99% downloaded and simply will *not* go anymore. >.<


\"The\" BT client? There are innumerable (well, several) clients. Try ABC, or Azureus. They\'re all available from http://www.sourceforge.net
 (use the \"search\" facility and you\'ll quickly find them)
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