BItTorren Download

[Xolon]

ya i used a few..BitTorrent...BT++

but Azureus is really good...nice UI and no problems with any torrent (yet)

[Specialfighter]

A streaming system like it is used in Guildwars would help with that matter.

However, i would make the client available before the official release. Just turn off the servers so that nobody can log in and play.

[Keknehv]

The problem with that, specialfighter, is that the server code is open source--you could make your own server.


Personally, I use Shareaza for p2p (it\'s open source, does most stuff, can do bittorrent, etc.).


Any estimated release dates for CB ?

[theRealGorbulas]

The server is open, but the crucial data the server uses is not. There would be no benefits to running your own server other than looking at the new artwork, but there will be screenshots to do that already. Encrypting the data is pointless, and actualy poses a disadvantage to people who need to compile the code because they will be thirty minutes to a few hours late getting into the game.

(delayed sending: cable broken)

[Xordan]

Originally posted by theRealGorbulas
Encrypting the data is pointless, and actualy poses a disadvantage to people who need to compile the code because they will be thirty minutes to a few hours late getting into the game.

Takes me 5 min to compile CS, cel and PS. I don\'t really think people will be able to use that 5 min to a huge advantage In fact, even a week wouldn\'t make any difference in the long term.

[Zeraph]

I\'d be happy to seed a Torrent, I think it will be first-come first-server... what about hosting on a p2p client as-well, or has anyone thought of setting up bots on IRC?

But no, I think Torrents may be the way to go if you do not want to DL from the server...

[Adeli]

I\'d happily seed too, I do it all the time, doesn\'t bother me, since I\'m in Australia, while I\'m seeding and asleep you guys would be playing, so it would be fine. I could have it seeding all night no problems.

[Xolon]

most PS active Ps players won\'t mind to help seeding the files in my eyes. It\'s another great way to help the community

And all that discussion about security etc....whose willing to go through all that trouble for just a few days? You won\'t be able to get an advantage anyhow.


real P2P is the way to life

[theRealGorbulas]

The stuff with the security is just weird. Why would you try to protect it so much? Will the art files ruin the game? I don\'t see the point in encrypting the archive if you need an account on a running server to connect. No advantages will be gained by running your own server because the quest data is not distributed with the client or server.

[Mr. GworthoX]

LOL

I like the discussion about the Password protection.

I Agree with Jordan that not many ppl in RL do have a super computer.
But you don\'t really need a Super Computer. Make a cluster of some smaller ones wil also do. (besides that, I\'m working on a big university, and believe me: I think there is plenty calculation time for me to use it.......)

But anyway, I think the discussion should be: Do you want it that way.
I think distributing the version to ppl be4 the release, you can counter a couple of problems. Of course you get ppl who try to crack the password. Some ppl do everything to reach there goals. (ppl beg/offer dia\'s to join the pre-release......ask poor moogie ;-) ).
But another reason for not doing it, will be that you can get a server flood of ppl try to join the server simultaniously. (Cause everybody has already the downloaded file.....they wait 24/7 for the password......depack the file.....install CB.....and join).

(note: maybe I\'m wrong, and the server CAN handle it. Anyway.....this is not ment as a flame to the devs :-) I only expect a busy time during the first days in the CB release. After that the \"new\" is gone, and the normal thing goes on).

So.....maybe the fact that 56K users take longer to download may not be that bad. However...I like the P2P Idea. not only will the download wider availible, but the resume ability will be loved by those 56K-ers.

(ps.....I\'m not writing this down, cause I\'m so lucky with my T3 line. I\'m really sry for those others that do have a 56K modem. I\'m sure the devs thought about the join-flood that can happen. Only they know if it\'s a real thread).

Anyway...to my oppinion is the rar-password idea nice but not a good thing. The download has to be done anyway.......so then let some ppl wait one more day, be4 there download has completed. (after 2 years....you don\'t care anymore about the fact you played 1 day less :-D ).

[Pegasus]

In my opinion it doesnt make sense if all players connect to the server at the same time. Also what is the problem if you wait a day to play CB after its out? You have waited like 2 years now - 1 day wont kill you (at least it wont kill me ).

P2P got a downside for people with transfer-limits (like me). It creates a lot of additional traffic due to negotiating the transfer with every single user.

Well maybe we could make a vote to see how many people would like to download CB the day it comes out (how many have the possibility to use BT or would prefer another way of download). That way you can at least have an idea of what load you will have on the download and on the gameserver (since after 2-5h those first-day-downloaders will be playing).

[Xolon]

Originally posted by Mr. GworthoX
you can get a server flood of ppl try to join the server simultaniously. (Cause everybody has already the downloaded file.....they wait 24/7 for the password......depack the file.....install CB.....and join).

If i remembered it correctly the server only creates 1,5Kb/s traffic for each client. So flooding the server wouldn\'t happen that fast.

Anyway...to my oppinion is the rar-password idea nice but not a good thing. The download has to be done anyway.......so then let some ppl wait one more day, be4 there download has completed. (after 2 years....you don\'t care anymore about the fact you played 1 day less :-D ).

The pain of not being able to finallly play CB after waiting 1 year is terrible...one day is very very long then  8o

Originally posted by Pegasus
P2P got a downside for people with transfer-limits (like me).

For those ppl a normale FTP/HTTP link should also be available on the website

[Efflixi Aduro]

Why don\'t the devs put a link on download.com?
I get like 450 kbs from their server
And one of my friends gets like 600, we both use cable

[Mezasa]

Once again, the Devs should just put it up on release day.  None of this eraly-release crap is neccasary.  The SIms 2 had/has nearly 3k people downloading just fine.  Sure, there is like 200 seeders, but we have 23 seeders for like 500 downloaders.  It really won\'t be that bad!  Besides, most people just turn it on at night and leave it.  I only D/L at aroung 26kbps, and thats really rather slow compared to most DSL/Cable users.  We have already established (in other topics) that a lot of people playing PS are not on Broadband, but dialup.  

Even if it takes a long time to upload, know that the Devs don\'t have to even upload it.  They could make you wait another freaking year if they want.  It\'s OK to want the game, but quit whining about having to wait a year and then another day will kill you.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Mezasa
Even if it takes a long time to upload, know that the Devs don\'t have to even upload it.  They could make you wait another freaking year if they want.  It\'s OK to want the game, but quit whining about having to wait a year and then another day will kill you.

So what? Just because it could be this way means that it should be this way, and that we shouldn\'t even try to improve the situation? Geez, if everyone was thinking that way, we\'d still be on the trees!

If it can be accomplished with low or moderate effort, it\'s OK to at least consider it, isn\'t it? Nobody said it\'s necessary to take extreme measures to ensure everyone will get it at the same time.