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virsophus

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« on: October 04, 2004, 06:04:30 pm »
I find MMORPGs or any RPGs for that matter have little or no blood. Is there some sort of law i\'m not aware of? Well in any case I\'d like to see more blood when I\'m killing (makes it more satisfying) or being killed. Also when your health is low, it would be neat if your character actually looked beat up.
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2004, 06:09:09 pm »
In order to reach the maximum number of potential players, it makes sense for any MMO game to have the lowest age rating possible. PlaneShift has many players younger than 14 years old; so if we were to see this in the future, it would definitely be an optional setting.
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my thoughts exactly...
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2004, 06:11:30 pm »
http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=10232&boardid=11&styleid=2&sid=589747d46837a9524099852661d03414

I wished this that you might disregard the healthbar where you should be able to see on any person if he/she looks injured of poisioned, perhaps a bit pale of poisioning?

elaborate this PLEASE!
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2004, 06:13:43 pm »
This works great in a text-based game, but it\'s gonna be a li\'l harder in PS, and definitely not a priority.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2004, 12:50:24 am »
I think that there should be a system that asks your age when you run the game fer the first time. So it would cencor the game correctly for different age groups.

1-6 = No ability to play the game whatsoever.
7-9 = All gore cencored as well as profanity.
10-13 = Some blood effects and mild profanity.
14-ADULT = Ability to cut heads off... full profanity...

I also recommend sencoring some parts of the game. So that little kidswould not go to scary places or engage in combat with err... zombies...
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2004, 01:12:24 am »
Profanity? Not real profanity I hope, but something that involves roleplay, and even then it should be limited...

Also, don\'t you think that people will lie about their age to outsmart the system?

Graphic violence is truly unnecessary, and wouldn\'t add to the roleplay world, which is exactly what Yliakum is trying to become.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2004, 01:17:43 am »
Xero: I don\'t know where you live, but in most civilised countries, 14 is NOT an adult age. 18+ is universally considered the maximum range by many game rating organisations, such as the ESRB.

And FYI, 1-6 doesn\'t exist. That would be 3+ for educational/learning games.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2004, 02:09:44 am »
I live the United States of America. Here it is hard to find somebody 14 that does not play M rated video games and deos not watch R rated movies... I know ratingz...

Karyuu, maybe you are right someone may outsmart such system, easyly... maybe a test of somewhat or...

I do not think that the game will look good without violence. What will you substitute that effect by?  Dead dissapearing into thin air? Sparks flying insted of blood? No ability to behead people? That aint realistic, espieccially if I am gonna play the way I want to...

PS, please call me Coga...
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2004, 02:23:27 am »
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I live the United States of America. Here it is hard to find somebody 14 that does not play M rated video games and deos not watch R rated movies... I know ratingz...

Karyuu, maybe you are right someone may outsmart such system, easyly... maybe a test of somewhat or...

I do not think that the game will look good without violence. What will you substitute that effect by?  Dead dissapearing into thin air? Sparks flying insted of blood? No ability to behead people? That aint realistic, espieccially if I am gonna play the way I want to...

PS, please call me Coga...


Ahem!  Persons of age 14 or under engaging in activity relating to \"M\" rated console and/or computer games, and/or observing motion pictures with a rating of \"R\" are the result of poor parenting.  I will not permit planeshift to have realistic beheadings so long as I have any influence over the course of development.

Any system is easily outsmarted, foo\'.  Systems that are not easily deceived and are based on computers tend to involve heavy restrictions, which are unacceptable.

A little blood won\'t hurt, but it must not be overdone.  Corpses dissappearing would be acceptable given limitations of the engine.  I do not want to see the sickening image of a rotting corspe.

No ability to behead would be a good thing, I do not see how you fail to understand that.  You aren\'t planning on taking hostages and filming said beheadings in a mockery of terrorist radicals in Iraq, are you?
« Last Edit: October 05, 2004, 03:39:56 am by Monketh »
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2004, 03:01:01 am »
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  You aren\'t planning on taking hostages and filming said beheadings in a mockery of terrorist radicals in Iraq, are you?


That is just plain WRONG! What is wrong with you?!!

PS, I think that corpses disappearing is the best idea for the battles... if this game is gonna be for all age groups...
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2004, 03:16:41 am »
Ah, so he understands why we don\'t want beheadings now, then. :)
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2004, 03:49:53 am »
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  You aren\'t planning on taking hostages and filming said beheadings in a mockery of terrorist radicals in Iraq, are you?


That is just plain WRONG! What is wrong with you?!!

PS, I think that corpses disappearing is the best idea for the battles... if this game is gonna be for all age groups...


Yes, something is wrong with me, I like politics.  That was the first immediate abuse of the ability I foresaw.  Not to mention that it is grotesque, grizzly, and unnecessarily bloody to begin with.

This game is currently intended to be for all age groups.  Dissappearance solves several issues.
+It strains the server less with broadcasting that position to clients (reduces real lag slightly)
+It strains client-side computers less because they do not have to render that object (reduces render lag)
+It solves the problem of how to depict a fallen character (no ethical & conservative values & gross-out vs. realism issues)
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2004, 01:00:06 am »
I agree. We shouldn\'t have really grotesque things. If you want that, go play DOOM3 or something.

Maybe we could have a \'death\' position, which you collapse to when you die and dissapear (maybe sink into the ground?) after about 30 seconds/when the engine decides (FPS too low, etc).

And we should maybe make blood (if any) an optional compile setting; most 10 year olds wouldn\'t know how to set that.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 02:00:23 am »
Keknehv: That\'s what happens when you die in CB. You fall to the ground in a death animation, and after a few seconds, you are transported to the Death Realm.

If there\'s gonna be a blood option, it shouldn\'t only be accessable through compiling. It isn\'t only 10 year olds who have no idea how to compile from source; from what I\'ve seen in Freenode #planeshift, it\'s a bloody awkward thing to attempt. :P Just another setting in the Options page would do fine.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2004, 02:24:45 am »
Hey, when killing somebody they should drop all their possesions (like in diablo). Right? Or would that be unfair in somesort of a way?

Makin\' blood an optional setting sounds ok.
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