Author Topic: Colours (not ways) of Magic  (Read 4131 times)

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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2004, 02:42:22 am »
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Sorry if I seem rude, but was my thread title not clear?
Zeraph seems to be the only one who understands.
I do not mean a the spell effects, I do not mean the actual ways of arcane power. I am simply referring to the representative colours of each way.

My interest in this is purely for a story, and that\'s it.

Sorry if this seems like a flame of some sort.

Let me phrase it this way.
There are six mages, one in red, one in brown, one in white (crystal I decided), one in black (dark), one in blue, and one in blue-green? (azure)...

white
red
blue
brown
black
blue-green?


Actually I\'ll have to agree with Moogie. It does not make any sense to be discussing the individual colors (or shades) of magic. The developers made it, it\'s their system, it works satisfyingly as you have been the only one to bring up any discussion on this matter (a rather trivial one I might add), therefore it makes no sense to debate it.
There is no one saying that the ways of magic have to be described by a colour.

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2004, 02:53:10 am »
Thats what I was atempting saying earlier.  :O I would rather not have all the spells of one Way have all the same color scheme. Quite boring if you ask me...

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2004, 06:31:37 am »
Sorry to contradict, but you are misunderstanding me again.
I must say I disagree with you on this one.
All over the world, things are represented by colours, whether you know it or not. eg. Yellow is symbolic for freedom, white for purity. Yliakum is a world, thus they\'d have representations.
Moogie, I know they are on the character creation, but I am currently having problems with the client and have yet to download it again. I shall do so later today.
I do not mean spells, erase this though from your mind completely.
Simply representation.
As for why it matters, it\'s my story and I\'m fussy like that.

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« Last Edit: October 17, 2004, 06:41:00 am by Adeli »

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2004, 06:36:43 am »
As far as PS is concerned I always thought Azure was more of a green-blue.  Like a sea-green.

The reason for this can be found in the Nolthrir description: \"Nolthrirs appear as slim elves, with skin and hair colored from azure to green, and icy eyes colored from light azure to light green.\"

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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2004, 06:41:57 am »
Thankyou Aendar, I\'d forgotten that, it does sound suitable.
OT: Sorry to hear about you missing out on phase 2.

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2004, 06:54:55 am »
The quirk us humans have of assigning a certain \"meaning\" to a colour is  called \"synaesthesia\". This capacity means that each hue evokes in our psyche a determinate concept.

Which is why a man in a dark suit of armour invariably represents \"evil\" and one in golden plate mail will always strike the average individual as \"good\". Or another example, the division of the chromatic circle in \"cold\" and \"warm\" colours.

I understand Adeli\'s point, though. A society instinctively tries to delimit the different meanings in conventions according to their ease of recognition (Any form of language being the prime example of this), and it can be a bit odd to see two slightly different hues of blues representing two completely different aspects of magic. Not that it bothers me, particularly, but it is something I had never noticed before.

I am assuming that you are writing a story in which the different ways of magic are involved, and you are trying to recreate a separation of each way through the colours.

I would suggest considering Azure as a green-tainted blue for your story, if you are attempting to make a clearer visual distinction for each way of the arcane arts. And remembering that not only this visual distinction is given by colour alone: Other variables such as differences in garments and their styles, jewelry, amulets, and particular symbols and anything you can think of can help to convey an idea of individuality.

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2004, 07:51:04 am »
Thankyou for your informed reply Golbez.
That\'s exactly how I meant it.
Currently I am doing a rough cut, as stated in my story thread, I am restricting my descriptiveness, but I hope to make a better version one day, and will take into account things such as design of clothing, and accessories.
So light, blue-green it is then.
Thank you to all who replied.

http://noz.day-break.net/webcolor/azure.html
I have decided that #3399CC will be Azure,
Blue will be something akin to #0033CC.
Thank you for this colour chart.

Golbez, how did you get so knowledgeable?
« Last Edit: October 17, 2004, 08:13:12 am by Adeli »

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2004, 08:37:14 am »
*technically, pure blue is #0000FF, but that doesn\'t mean that is how most people think of it.  I think your choice on both azure and blue are good.  The only other one I would consider for azure is #0099CC, which is very similar.  Also, realize that if your monitor, or the monitor of whoever is looking at the color, has bad color management then the color can be completely different.  Web safe colors won\'t fix that (web safe colors were for back in the day with bad graphics cards, nowadays they are basically obsolete).  For instance, I know my monitor has bad color management (Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 930 SB, great monitor if you can figure out the colors), and that is why #3399CC to me looks hardly green tinted at all.

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2004, 11:15:39 am »
To be honest, #0099CC was my first thought. I know #0000FF is true blue as red/green values are zero, but I prefer my choice.
My choice for Azure is slightly tinted green, not fully, a mix of say cyan and sea green...?
It reminds me of a derwent pencil called Kingfisher Blue that I liked.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2004, 11:16:27 am by Adeli »

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2004, 06:54:01 pm »
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Thank you to all who replied.


You are welcome! ;)


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Golbez, how did you get so knowledgeable?


Pffft. I am not knowledgeable. Graphic Design is what I study, and the basics involve topics such as morphology, theory of colours, language (oral, written and visual), etcetera.

This just happened to fall right in my area of interest.

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2004, 01:50:51 am »
Just come to France, have a look at our sky and sea and you will know what azure really means :)
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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2004, 03:41:54 am »
A thought for describeing crystal robes; I read that you choose to describe them as white because you could not describe them as being the colour of a rainbow with enough flair to make it interesting. However; some thing similar to what J.R.R. Tolkien used to describe Sauramons multicoloured robes would be verry addequat. Some thing along these lines: His robes shimerd as he walked across the floor, shifting from from colour of the rainbow to the next as he passed before your eye. While not quite to Tolkiens level of litterary skill that should suffice quit well for anyone who would like to use it as a guid for describeing crytal robesas being the colour of a rainbow

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2004, 09:51:05 am »
I thought this thread was closed a while ago, guess not...
I already got my answers... but thankyou anyway.
As for Tolkien, I don\'t think Lord of the Rings has enough flair to make it interesting. It\'s quite a boring read, and if you look, in the movie he is Saruman the White, in White robes, guess Peter Jackson didn\'t like the mother of pearl look.

Mods, I believe this has now exhausted its usefulness.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2004, 09:52:48 am by Adeli »

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