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corsairk8

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Communication And Transportation
« on: January 08, 2002, 08:33:15 pm »
I was thinking, if this world is so large people may have trouble contacting others. People may wanna chat with friends but not be able to. In real-life we have a number of systems to communicate and transport, which versions of which may be useful in this game.

  • Telephone
  • Mobile Phone
  • Pager
  • Written Letter
  • Computer / Email
  • Computer / Chat
  • Network / Internet
  • Bus
  • Car
  • Taxi
  • Subway
  • Airplane
  • Space-craft
  • Train


Im thinking if we are to keep things interesting we need simular devices for this game. Perhaps a telephone-like device for all houses and appartments, I dont think a mobile-phone would be realistic nor would a pager. I would love to have a telephone system and a letter writing system where you purchase stamps and send it to a post office. We could even have post men who deliver it to each house.

One thing that would be great would be a network-within-a-network sorta idea. This would be to have an internet in the game. This would mean, if there is technology like computers, or perhaps some races may discover magically-driven devices simular to computers, there could be a network simular to the internet with pages on magic, personal pages, roleplay pages, magic-mail and the magi-internet-chat-system or mics.

Another thing that would be great would be transportation, a good job could be a taxi driver who makes money by transporting people to areas and stuff. I for one would like to put myself for hire as a mercenary for fun, and perhaps drive my employer to areas of the wilderness and then rent out weaponry all for a charge. We could incorperate this into a law-system by having contracts where if broken a court appearance be made, and if they fail to turn up the guards can hostile them and kill / forcefully make them show in course.

This may make things a little too realistic, but I think some of these ideas may be quite useful and when worked effectively into the game could make it much better. These are just ideas so please comment on them on which ones you like, thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2002, 09:02:31 pm »
LOL acraig, have you ever heard of FANTASY role playing? ofcourse there\'ll be transportation methods (maybe even including teleportation) but all will have it\'s costs. and the other things are just plain stupid. Have yu ever seen a dwarf calling his elvish contacts with his mobile phone from behind his laptop that he\'ll be little later for buissness dinner because his private yet doesn\'t want to take off? GIMME A BREAK MAN! :D

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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2002, 09:10:05 pm »
Some great ideas there  :D
I agree and think that \'modern\' devices from our world should definately stay out of the PS world as should modern transport etc. But, as you said, communication could be a problem and I\'m not sure if a mail system would work unless it is instant, as people tend towrite things for the moment and would lose their point or meaning after any time delay, for example having to be be retreived from a house or post office.

Do the majority of other MMORPGs have instant messaging available to use with people currently in other locations?

If you are trying to avoid this due to the lack of realism involved - after all it is just like having an in game mobile phone  ;) you could perhaps have a system of NPC \'runners\' or messanger birds - these services could be town and village based  services, bought items or even just an option everyone has all the time as a way to include some form of instant messaging between players.

If you wanted simple messaging as it currently exists in many games, maybe you could have available to buy or win in a quest, somekind of mystical orb thingy which allows the transfer of ones thoughts to another who also has such an orb?

As for transport, horses or any number of beasts would do the job nicely. Maybe one day we could raise and train animals, then you have a whole other branch of gaming to explore...but maybe that\'s something for the future...
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2002, 09:20:28 pm »
Well, I was just listing what we have in modern-days and I am corsairk8, not craig. Anyawy, id love to have enchanted rocks or shells you can listen into that works like mobine phones. Again, I wouldnt want anything ive mentioned to be in the real game under the name they have in modern days. We should use creativity to attain that functionality yet present it in a attractive role-playing style. For example:

  • Telephone = Magic Horn
  • Mobile Phone = Call Shell
  • Pager = Magic Slate
  • Computer = Personal Command Hive
  • Internet = Plane Shifters Network (Run by government?)
  • Bus could stay
  • Car = Magic Sphere or HexaTram
  • Space Craft = Space Crawler


Please note that I am rubbish at coming up with good names and I havent put much thought into the names or what they look like, but rather what function they will serve in the game. I would like to know what you think of having *simular* devices, not the exact same things.

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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2002, 09:27:00 pm »
Hmmm, did you post that before seeing my post Corsairk? Just like I have just done with Thekkur\'s post before me?

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2002, 10:19:09 pm »
hmmm... it\'s odd we both said acraig instead of corsairk8...

It seems that I mis-read your post corsaik8 (or you might have adjusted it after I replied. ;) The idea is good, but i think there shouldn\'t be too many of such magical devices. The internet system wouldn\'t be possible in my opinion. About the runners: imagine dozens of like-mailmen-dressed npc\'s running around and bumping into everyone... I think there shouldn\'t be too much communication either. In a real medieval world you couldn\'t have contact with people over great distances too. It would be far more realistic. And say for yourself: how many imes would you send an urgent message to someone on the other side of the map? if you want to meet: call eachother in real life and meet on certain coordinates.

WE might add somthing like the palantir from LoTR. but not with webcams ofcourse, but with in game over distance viewing. (imagine somthing like a webcam but then entirely in-game) the ppl who read LoTR know what I am talking about, and the ppl that saw the movie should also know it.

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2002, 11:45:30 pm »
If you want to bend the \"fantasy only\" rules a little bit, you could incorporate private messaging like in RS and other games - two players could communicate with each other, no matter where they are in the game. But since there\'s no real reasoning behind it (it\'s telepathic!), and it lends itself to player harassment, I wouldn\'t recommend it.
  I read LotR long ago, so I don\'t recall exactly what the palantir are - weren\'t they orbs or something? That would be neat, though - magical orbs in certain places that are accessible by the players, and they can contact another orb anywhere in the game, as long as they know about it (maybe they type a name in or something).
  In one game I player for awhile, they also had e-messages - you could go to a desk and send a message to someone else in the game, like an e-mail, but it could only be sent or read at a desk.
  In most fantasy settings there are \"runners\" who take messages across town for a few coppers, and there are people who carry mail (send it along with a merchant caravan, e.g.). It might be a little harder to implement in-game, though.
  Or you could just do what many RS players do, and hang out in the chat room while you play. Many\'s the time we communicated through there - if someone had stuff to give away, or wanted to get a group together to go hunting. You could also, of course, use AIM or MSN or whatever.
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2002, 12:30:13 am »
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Originally posted by Thekkur
About the runners: imagine dozens of like-mailmen-dressed npc\'s running around and bumping into everyone...


LOL, you don\'t actually have to have the npcs running all over the landscape, all that would happen \'behind the scenes\' - I thought it just might be a nice way to explain and incorporate a message system if one was required. But I do agree that much of the distance communication is often unecessary, so may not even be needed  ;)

Are palantirs similar to what I suggested about the orbs in my earlier post then?

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2002, 12:32:29 am »
Alright, fine, then if thats unrealistic then lets do it like in MUDs and have it so you have to goto a post office to get your mail and then you can read it or take it home.

I dont see whats wrong with a mobile rock, that you dial into your friend, then if he picks up his rock, you can chat. We could have a telephone number for each player or have it so you dial in their name, and then it would be cool. Of course, it would only be for high level players, or maybe those who spent alot of gold.

I think stamps and items like these enchanted rocks shuold be very expensive, so people cant just go and make tons and keep posting hundreds. Maybe have it for a few Hexa for a stamp, because of how hard it is to transport letters. There should be different classes of stamps, like \"City-wide\", \"Zone-wide\" and \"Global\" with Global being very expensive and City-wide being cheaper.

Enchanted rocks would very rare and so there are a finite amount could be found, and they are geneted periodically perhaps by the gods. I think these should be luxuries for only the best warriors, adventurers or merchants.

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2002, 01:06:33 am »
Yeah...At lest some sort of communication spell ;)



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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2002, 01:36:34 am »
Maybe you should go to a wizard and the wizard would telepathicly contact your friend, and these wizards could also put a \"block\" spell on you so that you cant recieve any telepathic messages and the very rich people could afford something like a permenant telpathic enchantmet whereas they could contact anyone at anytime (of course they couldnt  contact \"blocked\" individuals)

Well those are just some ideas,... but the only problem with these wizards and with mail is that they STAY at one place and cant come with you so that you arent mobile.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2002, 01:59:39 am »
I like the nonmagical communication best, and think that having a postoffice and some sort of hireable messenger pet (bird, rat, snake, bat etc..) is a must!!

I vote that magical communication should be expensive and rare.

Of course you could use a few objects for low range communication, like a horn, signaling with a mirror, waving a flag or the arms.

You might have skills to cover the rest, like making smoke signals, using telepathy or special spells, though I still don\'t think the magical stuff shuld be easy to master.

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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2002, 02:48:38 am »
We migh include encumbrance, you might only walk 2 hours without resting for half an hour. and a maximum could be 6 hours a day. Then you would get damage from walking further.

It would be nice if you could ride with a wagon (either one of yourself or a public one) and set a destination on the map (you might have to buy/find) Then you could log off and go to bed. Using a distance calculation system the you would reach your destination some hours later.

If you log in earlier/stay online, you\'ll find yourself sitting on the cart riding towards your destination, being able to stop/redirect it at any time. (just like moving in a vehicle in other games) If you do log off your cart won\'t be visible for other players, and you will arrive at your destination without risking to be robbed.



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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2002, 02:52:52 am »
Then we come to the Familier discussion again. How about your \'furry\' companion can deliver mail to other characters (and their familiers). Also Psicic Type Familiers could send automatic IM type msgs and Mage\'s could do it too. But then again...What about not magical types (like me)



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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2002, 03:07:27 am »
You could always use animals, Like a Spider for instins, You would pay it *Any Amount* and it would let you sit on its back while it takes you to a optional destinations.

Or any other kinda of animal.
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