Royal Navy to allow devil worship

[snow_RAveN]

clearly something strange, this is not a joke but it sure is funny and the worshiper dosent belive that iraq war is all satan\'s fault

Royal Navy to allow devil worship

[DepthBlade]

How can you have a satan worshiper in your ranks? When you are trying to rid such ideals from a nation..like they are in IRAQ (Don\'t mean rid IRAQ of devil worship but of terrorism)

[Dameon]

Well, you can\'t persecute someone for a religion when it isn\'t hurting anyone. It does seem odd, but it is freedom of religion. Once he starts slaughtering officers for rituals, then we use him as fish bait.

[Olig]

It isn\'t suppose to matter what \"ideals\" you worship. As long as it does not interfer with the tasks at hand, you can worship any religion, as it should be.

If anything, the wars on Iraq are, ironically, God\'s fault (although some call it Allah) because there are different sides trying to reach heaven by eliminating \"the wrong guys\". Everyone\'s just doing what they think is best, and it turns out to be a war.

[Watcher]

From a Atheists point of view (note no person is meant to take personal offence to this) It is ironic that a being created for belif is the cause of so much strife.

[Draklar]

Quite interesting... I did some research on the satanism (I don\'t like to talk about different religions without getting to know them first) and I must point out that all you people who consider this event \"odd\" did the 1st satanic sin

1. Stupidity: The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It\'s too bad that stupidity isn\'t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

Why? Because it is christians going for war that is weird, not satanists. Satanism doesn\'t mean you\'ll go around sacrificing children and stuff (actually hurting children is against satanic rules). Sure it advices you to use violence, but only if someone intrudes your territory and does everything to annoy you [hint]terrorism[/hint]. The mass picture of satanism was created by media and the-religion-that-shall-not-be-named.

It\'s sad that not denying belonging to nature is considered \"wrong\" nowadays... sad and stupid :rolleyes:

- Swords

[Phinehas]

Well, I\'m a Christian, so you can all probably figure out my stand on this.

[Boldstorm]

Well according to some \"Christian\" beliefs, and I do mean some not all, 67% of the world are Satanists.

So if that is the case I am sure he isn\'t the only Satanist in the Armed Forces. Buddhists, Muslims, NeoPagans, Druids all religions or belief systems like that are considered Satanists or Satanistic to some.

IMO as long as your beliefs do not effect your performance or the safety of yourself or others around you then you should be free to practice your beliefs.

[Ionas]

According to a satanist on another forum real satanism isnt about worshipping the devil or evil. Its about being strongly atheistic. Sort of kicking against religion in general and christianity in particular.

But there are probably different groups with different thoughts.

[Draklar]

Yeah, the first form  of satanism was opposite to the-religion-that-shall-not-be-named, so also contained disbelief for God and satan. Considered satan not as divine being, but a force that is in every one of us... or something like that... now satanism can be either the old form of it or the devil worshipping... if I remember it correctly.

Of course the-religion-that-shall-not-be-named won\'t stop at calling everyone around \"satanists\", it\'ll also lie about what it stands for...

- Swords

[Boldstorm]

The man who is now the first registered Satanist in  the Royal Navy is a follower of the Church of Satan. The Church of Satan was founded by Anton Szandor LaVey and it\'s basic beliefs are...

1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.
5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
7. Satan represents man as just another animal sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours -- who, because of his divine spiritual and intellectual development, has become the most vicious animal of all.
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years.

This post is in no way for or against these beliefs I just thought it would be intresting to show exactly what this persons beliefs were that the whole article is about,

[Ionas]

Originally posted by Draklar
Of course the-religion-that-shall-not-be-named won\'t stop at calling everyone around \"satanists\", it\'ll also lie about what it stands for...

You almost sound like a satanist yourself . The christians (i believe your referring to) not all lie, many like other people probably are confused by the name satanism and just have the wrong image of it.
Im not sure what to make of satanism either btw.

Boldstorm, Interesting seems like its very much about individuality. One does as one feels like.

[Karyuu]

*applauds for Boldstorm* :D

I myself have a copy of LaVey\'s Satanic Bible, and it\'s an excellent work. It\'s amazing how people often refuse to do their own research and jump to conclusions on Satanism, which has nothing to do with drawing pentagrams on the floor, summoning demons, or slaughtering animals or people. That\'s the Hollywood take on the path.

Why allow Christians on the job but not Satanists? About time Her Majesty got some up-right people in her navy ;)

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Ionas

Originally posted by Draklar
Of course the-religion-that-shall-not-be-named won\'t stop at calling everyone around \"satanists\", it\'ll also lie about what it stands for...

You almost sound like a satanist yourself .

Well actually I\'m Wiccan (NeoPagan). And I don\'t mean christians, but Christianity in all. Since the burning times, it was always the same. Back then Christianity declared pagans \"devil worshippers\" and started hanging/burning them for worshipping something they don\'t even believe in. It never stopped, just changed the methods. Now you can see christian websites telling lies about other religions. And what are results? If you say you\'re a pagan, you can get fired from job for worshipping satan.
However, I agree with what satanism stands for much more than christianity... We are who we are, we are part of nature... and no one will convince me that following our natural instincts is \"wrong\" or sin or whatever...

- Swords

[Xordan]

Bleh, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and AFAIK, christianity has caused more death and violence than satanism, so I see nothing wrong with following it. I\'m the same as Draklar on that I agree more with satanism than christianity.

\"There is no such thing as sin, moral or anything like it, survival is what matters at the end of the day, it is how we\'ve evolved in this world, like all other creatures\"