Royal Navy to allow devil worship

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Olig
You got to understand that its not the religions that are to blame for violent actions in the name of god,

Heh... you mean that religion where God states that he\'s the only god and only one by who you can go to paradise and that if you believe in other gods you\'re a sinner and will end up in hell, isn\'t to blame?
People take a lot from their religions so yes, I will blame some religions as much as I blame some people...

- Swords

[Olig]

Originally posted by Draklar

Originally posted by Olig
You got to understand that its not the religions that are to blame for violent actions in the name of god,

Heh... you mean that religion where God states that he\'s the only god and only one by who you can go to paradise and that if you believe in other gods you\'re a sinner and will end up in hell, isn\'t to blame?
People take a lot from their religions so yes, I will blame some religions as much as I blame some people...

- Swords

In my eyes, god did not say that, a man with a pen said he did. I blame it all on the people, because thats where religion came from in the first place, IMO. Most religions are supposed to be good in heart, but those who change the laws to their own benefit, like kings, are the ones I have trouble with. Its a mass brainwashing on the people, by the people, particularly the wealthy.

[Psycon]

Originally posted by Olig

You got to understand that its not the religions that are to blame for violent actions in the name of god, its the people. Those same people would probably bomb a building for another god if they were born in a different area. Most people suck, but there are always exceptions.

The religions have it\'s part of the blame too. It shouldn\'t allow violent actions in the name of god because when people talk about religion they don\'t agree with logical arguments. The whole point to having a religion is to explain the unexplained and all of it\'s theories are based on belief. Belief is bad as sometimes excludes understanding. To get back on religion\'s fault I must say that religious fanatism is mostly based on stupidity and ignorance of people and it\'s common knowledge that hydrogen and  stupidity are the most common things in universe . So there will always be religious leaders wich will make ppl do what they want having a really strong argument on their side: belief. I must say that belief is the ultimate argument. Another thing I observed is that all priests are trained in psychology.... good thing to know is they don\'t learn only about their religion, but about others too. A priest\'s welfare is based on ripping off a bunch of ppl in the name of belief. The funny thing is that ppl know this but they give things willingly and the religion underlines this. So the religious system is really a very old and effective tool for manipulating the masses.

I\'ve been talking mainly about christian like religions but one must be carefull what he belives in because you never know what the preacher really wants from his belivers. I don\'t say religion is bad, but one should be carefull about it not to push things too far. Religion si kindof like fire usefull and destructive in the same time.

[Isolis]

1-14 u believe in what your parents tell you to
15-18 Heraotic
19- rest of your life thir u go back with \"god\" or what ever religon  your parents taught you.

Hey it dont bother me none there practicing devil  crap as long as it dont effect me

[Boldstorm]

Originally posted by Isolis
1-14 u believe in what your parents tell you to
15-18 Heraotic
19- rest of your life thir u go back with \"god\" or what ever religon  your parents taught you.

Hey it dont bother me none there practicing devil  crap as long as it dont effect me

Hmm I am over 19 years old and I still denounce everything my parents taught me and pretty much believe in much of the opposite.  ?(

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Olig
In my eyes, god did not say that, a man with a pen said he did. I blame it all on the people, because thats where religion came from in the first place, IMO. Most religions are supposed to be good in heart, but those who change the laws to their own benefit, like kings, are the ones I have trouble with. Its a mass brainwashing on the people, by the people, particularly the wealthy.

But in the eyes of Christianity he said that (Holy Ghost passing God\'s word to man). Nuff said

The religions have it\'s part of the blame too. It shouldn\'t allow violent actions in the name of god because when people talk about religion they don\'t agree with logical arguments.

Christianity doesn\'t allow it, yet it happens. The violence can be caused by highly non-tolerant religions.

1-14 u believe in what your parents tell you to
15-18 Heraotic
19- rest of your life thir u go back with \"god\" or what ever religon your parents taught you.

replace Heraotic (Heretic?) with \'Poser\' and it\'ll be true for some people.

- Swords

[snow_RAveN]

bashing Religions

 
wow, ... i started the 1st religon bashing thread in these fourms :]

Note ive got nothing aginst any religions because generaly more religions = more holidays (you know its ture)

If satanisum was called something eals it wouldn\'t be so \"targeted\". Calling your self a satanist is like calling your self a \"screw christianityian\" and with the general populace worshiping God ... you get the point

besides to my knowledge, religons tell us to \"love\" or respect one another and \"no war, war bad\", and it really pisses me off when i see people mistreating some one cause of belife or race.
really it does

[Draklar]

Originally posted by snow_RAveN
besides to my knowledge, religons tell us to \"love\" or respect one another and \"no war, war bad\", and it really pisses me off when i see people mistreating some one cause of belife or race.
really it does

to my knowledge Christianity was the first religion with morals
Now it\'s Christianity and Wicca (perhaps more, but I don\'t know any) which tell you to be \"good\" to others.
If you take Odinism, the paradise will be the hall of the slain (Valhalla), which is the palace of immortality, inhabited by the souls of heroes slain in battle.
So it doesn\'t say \"no war, war bad\"

- Swords

[snow_RAveN]

If you take Odinism, the paradise will be the hall of the slain (Valhalla), which is the palace of immortality, inhabited by the souls of heroes slain in battle.

Lies ! ( sunday school teachings/brain washing:P )

Now it\'s Christianity and Wicca (perhaps more, but I don\'t know any) which tell you to be \"good\" to others.

theres taoisium, budhisum(sp), hinduisum(sp), zen ?, confuses(sp ?) just to name a few ...

i know theres a after life. No, i didn\'t have a near death exp. its a long true ghost story. but their ghost storys and you can\'t trust me can you ?

[Draklar]

Yeah, I thought there might be something on the east, but I\'m not interested in those religions...

I don\'t believe in the afterlife... well not the way most of the religions show it. Imo there should be reincarnation or if there really is afterlife, it would be rather something like state of nirvana. Just because world where everyone are happy isn\'t possible to come true. Everyone have different view on happiness, so only one paradise isn\'t quite possible.
Pagans would roam the summerland, while brave warriors would spend their time in Valhalla laughing at the Christians who are now close to their cruel Father God
But if our views on \"happiness\" are too different, then paradise would mean something different for each of us, thus we would all end up in different realities. But that means loneliness and that means sadness.
but this is going way off-topic

- Swords

[Boldstorm]

Hmm Christianity tells you to be good to people???

Oops I forgot about the Crusades and the Holy Inquisitors.  8o

A couple of quotes from Adolf Hitler
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator:

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.

The way I see it is the main problem with most religions though really isn\'t the religion and it\'s beliefs it is how us as humans choose to use and abuse these beliefs.

[Draklar]

Christianity itself was against Crusades and Burning Times. The only problem is that it is full of bs like \"all who don\'t believe in The One God will be thrown into hell\" or forcing children to be Christians before they are able to say \"no\" (heh, can you imagine what would happen if a baby would actually say \"no\" on christening? The Church would call it antichrist or possessed xD).

- Swords

[hook]

I\'m going from the start of this topic.

The fact is that most of the time (big) arimes were the most belief-tolerant in the whole society.

Take the Roman empire for example. In the era when the whole society had a belief in the roman (=romanized greek) gods and any other religion was banished or looked down upon, their army was a melting pot of many religions (with a legal background). It was even recommended that the warriors were followers of the Cult of Mithras (a version of the Persian sun-god Mitra), which was waaaaaaay different then the Roman religion. If not for anything else - it was monotheistic and it was a cult.

more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithra

[Karyuu]

Originally posted by Draklar
to my knowledge Christianity was the first religion with morals :P

You mean it was the first religion with Christian morals. Morals are subjective, and each religion (even each person) has their own. Even so, many of the beliefs and practices of Christianity existed long before the \'official\' foundation of the Judeo-Christian-Islamic branch, with Mithraism and Zoroastrianism. Not to mention that their \'Golden Rule\' is an ancient ancient thing.

[Draklar]

Bleh, I meant it was first religion with \"do good\" thing.
But not all religions have their own morals. Simply believing in some gods won\'t give you any morality rules... for example if you believe your sock is a god and that\'s your whole religion then it won\'t have any morals...

- Swords