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[leji]

I witnessed this kind of problem yesterday on MB and was wondering if I should post a thread about it or just keep it to myself  (bless Search). In the case I witnessed, a noob was shouting words that you cant even tolerate on IRC, therefor I would have expected a GM to blame him (after we had spent nearly 15min trying to explain him that he was annoying) but... no GM online, I therefor left PS...

I dont really know what happened in your case, but to me Golmir can have been very right to tell you off if you had the same kind of behavior that noob had.

Anyway, IMO (I managed to guess the meaning of this yesterday so now I can use it ) PS isnt a place for shouting, /tell and /say are just great, I really cant see the purpose of shouting (except to arrange meetings or saying \'hello\' of course)

[Lardhoc Aewheros]

Originally posted by Owl
Then perhaps they should have played, or RPGed as you put elsewhere! Perhaps they could use thier E-mail adresses and post messages that way.

If someone asks something it is only decent/normal to adres this person, if everyone is too busy RPGin\' in a PUBLIC game then the fault is theirs! The /shout ..... command is used all the time whenever i\'m online there\'s always people using it and no one really bothers or makes a big deal out of it!

Well, actually the whole purpose of Planeshift is being a roleplaying environment. (see General Information on Setting.) But on the other hand people should be able to check out the tech demos without having to roleplay, roleplayers should however not be disturbed.

PS Still roleplayers should of course not be rude just because people use a command that actually exists. DS

[Owl]

PS Still roleplayers should of course not be rude just because people use a command that actually exists. DS

Agreed!

B.t.w. good to see you here milady Leji!

*Bows*

[Adeli]

I wonder if owl forgets that this is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. To me, RP is mandatory solely by the category the game falls under.
If they want to test out the tech demo, fine. But he admitted he was \"shouting to start conversation\" that is ignorant and rude.

Imagine being down the street and having some strange person yelling out random conversation topics, trying to start a conversation. It\'s hardly a good display of etiquette is it?

[Owl]

Originally posted by Adeli
I wonder if owl forgets that this is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. To me, RP is mandatory solely by the category the game falls under. Imagine being down the street and having some strange person yelling out random conversation topics, trying to start a conversation. It\'s hardly a good display of etiquette is it?

Actually i haven\'t forgotten my dear friend L,  but perhaps it is best we pass judgement after actually witnessing before mentioned events so let us move on and let this topic rest!

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Owl
Then perhaps they should have played, or RPGed as you put elsewhere! Perhaps they could use thier E-mail adresses and post messages that way.

You\'re joking,  right? Are you actually proposing that in the MMORPG called \"PS\" should be no RP taking place, but instead via email? If yes, I only have one answer for you:
NO WAY!
PS is an RPG, not a chat. Therefore, RPG takes precedence before chat, and therefore chat is only to be tolerated if it does not disturb any RP going on. How about the idle chatters taking their talkative presence to something appropriate, like a chat? It is not the duty of the RPGers to tolerate chatters, it\'s the duty of the chatters not to disturb the RPGers.

Originally posted by Owl
if everyone is too busy RPGin\' in a PUBLIC game then the fault is theirs!

Please tell me what \"public\" has to do with anything? Does \"public\" mean \"a place without rules\"? No, it doesn\'t. In fact, you\'re more restricted in public places than in private ones in what you may and may not do. PS is designated (IMO absolutely clearly) as RPG, and therefore the RPers have every right to busy themselves with RP as much as they wish. AND they also have every right to demand not to be disturbed, so it is entirely the chatter\'s fault!

Originally posted by Owl
The /shout ..... command is used all the time whenever i\'m online there\'s always people using it and no one really bothers or makes a big deal out of it!

Therefore...? Just because usually there is no RP going on or the RPers don\'t feel overly disturbed by the /shout chatting doesn\'t mean that suddenly every RPer needs to endure it. In fact, it is a nice gesture of RPers to not tell chatters off, but they are in no way obliged not to, even if they did not in the past.
Just because in the cinema the ppl. didn\'t mind you talking doesn\'t mean that talking in this cinema suddenly becomes acceptable and that future visitors need to endure your talking.

[Shadowfalcon]

IMO chatting should be ok in PS, as long as you arent using the /shout command. THAT WOULD BE YELLING, AND THAT IS RUDE. The shout command should only be used to find people and arange a meeting, or /shout does anybody know where I can find a healer? kind of stuff.

[thezambOWNie]

i guess i dont understand what the big deal is...no matter where your at IRL, PS, the game that should not be named your gonna run into people that u disagree with in their way of conducting themselves....if you\'re rping and someone happens to be shouting random things is it really worth stopping yourself and flaming them or to type /ignore *....honestly i dont really understand why in PS people have to conduct themselves as such and start a thread about getting into a VERBAL fight where thier feelings got hurt. this is not that big of an issue people are gonna put you down in life either fight back, walk away, or type /ignore...(lol that\'ll work IRL too)

[daecarne]

Today has been impossible to maintain a conversation with the NPCs, the \' Shouts\' storm has been unbearable and hasn\'t let me fulfill the second \' Quest\'.

Please, it\'s necessary to maintain manners within any game or social event, this game has, and the \' RPGs\' in general, rules and an etiquette, we respect them by the good of the game or we will kill it.

Think about it, thanks.

[Moogie]

In CB we\'ll be able to control this kind of problem far easier. For starters, we\'ll actually have some GMs online 24/7. The shout command in CB has been reduced from \'Global\' to \'Zone Only\'. If anyone is having problems with abusive players, or anyone sees a shouting match going on, they can use the GM Petition screen to alert GMs who may not already be aware of the situation.

For now, this topic has run its course and is starting to heat up, so we\'ll close it.

Anything dire to say here, PM me with a reason why I should temporarily reopen it.