Interesting...

[Melbourne]

I found this rather interesting and funny.

http://attenuation.net/files/iq.htm

[Myrtl]

Hahahaha! IF that is real thats halarious!

[Icefalcon]

Im sure its fake... funny anyway.

[Boldstorm]

Fake or not, Very believable.  8o

[ArcaneFalcon]

The funny thing, is that that is completely backwards.  Democrats are favored by the lower to lower middle class (tending to have lower IQ\'s), which is exactly opposite of what that shows (that is based strictly on my deduction, no validity whatsoever).  

Also, isn\'t this interesting:

This IQ data is based on SAT/ACT test scores.

Last I knew you couldn\'t figure a person\'s IQ from an SAT or ACT score.  I never took the SAT, but my IQ was never reported to me when I got my ACT score.

Lastly, I\'ve heard stuff like this coming from both sides in the last two elections.  I have a feeling this is more a result of \"spinning\" (a statistics term for interpreting the same data differently to support a particular position).

:emerald:

Edit:  Upon further inspection, this is some of the sloppiest statistics I\'ve ever seen.  First, this is based off SAT/ACT scores.  Lets see here, when was the last time we had a nice sampling of all ages able to vote take an SAT/ACT?  Oh yeah, NEVER.  This is based off of data from one specific age and group (17-18 year olds who are planning on going to college) and not from a general sampling of the population.  Do you have any idea how sloppy that is?  If you don\'t, let me tell you.  It is incredibly sloppy.  So sloppy, in fact, that these results are most definitely skewed.

Also, how can a state possibly have an average IQ 10 points higher than the average (Conn.)?  The truth is, they can\'t.

:emerald:

[Boldstorm]

Hmm, well I think what I meant by believable had less to do with actual statistics, but more to do with me thinking about the people I have had conversations with about the election and how they voted.

Why are you voting for Bush --> \"cuz he is did a gud job with killin those there terrorists.\"

Why are you voting for Kerry --> \"His plan for the restructuring of our tax plan greatly benefits myself and my family in the long run.\"

Ok this has been a dramitization and neither on of those comments were actually uttered but it didn\'t seem to far off. However, I don know my unscientific testing was based on a very small test group and didn\'t not take into affect all geographical regions.

Umm by the way I didn\'t vote so where does that put me I.Q. wise  ?(

[Annah]

I think you know that the average normal IQ is 100 right? And below that, people tend to be ... morons. Right? So how could the average IQ be 85!?
 Anyway, kinda don\'t care about US, only about the University I want to go and that they still support Romania

[Adeli]

I don\'t believe this at all, sorry, but Arcane is right, it\'s the sloppiest stats ever.
I should know, I am studying Psychology at University, and I have seen many stats regarding IQ.
Okay, a state can easily have an IQ above the \"global\" average... Saying 100 is the average is ridiculous and false.
There is not enough information given to be conclusive anyway, what are the Standard Deviations, what is the population mean? (The population being everyone tested in the US, the samples being each state for example). What are the sample sizes? None of this is provided.
Okay, I\'m not American, and have no idea what an ACT is, but I do know that SAT\'s have no indication on IQ, and as far as I know, only IQ tests have any indication, and a loose one at that.
Another hole in this... only students take SAT/ACT\'s yeah? Well, I\'m sure that every state is not wholly populated by students (I could be wrong, never been to the US), it\'s just a hunch. So where do all the uneducated people get counted?
Another thought I had, was how he came up with these obviously fake statistics, following a link on his page, I saw this:

What the guy did, I believe, was take average income by state and make up IQ scores off that. That gives a certain surface credibility to his made up numbers because, no doubt, there\'s some kind of positive correlation between IQ and income in reality. I plotted his data on a graph and it\'s just a straight line with minor random perturbations to make it look more authentic. There are no significant outliers like there are with real data. Moreover, his range of average state IQs is too big: from 85 in Mississippi to 113 in Connecticut. I\'d bet the real range is about, say, 90 to 105.

There was a graph, that was far too convenient to ever be possible. It was almost a stright line, no outliers. I then read the above message, and my thoughts were confirmed.
Sorry for ruining this for you.

I wonder whaat South Carolina, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah and Mississippi residents think of being referred to as idiots

[Annah]

\"Saying 100 is the average is ridiculous and false.\"
 err, you\'re wrong. Study psychology? So what, I am doing it also, though I am into phylosophy also
 Anyway, a number of people were tested in each country, and after those results, an average result at the world scale was made. Yes, that number is not equal with the whole population, so the results are relative, but NOT ridiculous
 Of course, no one went to Etyopia to test their IQ ...
 You\'re into psychology, I think you should get rid of your \"everything is a conspiracy, we are small, THEY are big\" ideas ^^ ... large your view

[Adeli]

You misunderstood... I am saying, the \"average\" is wrong, because there was not a representative sample, until there is, there can be no real average...

Of course, no one went to Etyopia to test their IQ ...

if everyone in the world was tested, and the average was 100, I\'d believe it, but until then... bleh.

You\'re into psychology, I think you should get rid of your \"everything is a conspiracy, we are small, THEY are big\" ideas ^^ ... large your view

I am not sure what you mean by this?

[JellyWerker]

I get the \"Economist\", and I can assure you that that was never printed. Funny though, even though I personally like Bush.

[TheTaintedSoul]

According to research 78 % of all statistics are lies .
Would be fun to think that Bush voters have a lower iq, but is probably not true.

Still the victory of Bush is a (not too unexpected) bitter pill to swallow . Democrats from the southern states, why didn\'t you move to states like Ohio. Then you might have won, now you vote was wasted .  
Okay just kidding, but there are humerous aspects to this all, like the reasons of Moore not to slice your wrists, americans seriously stating on a canadian forum they want to move there.

And maybe this is a solution all can agree with:

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/mainarchive/images/us-of-evangelicals-300.gif

[ArcaneFalcon]

ROFL!  Ah yes, only the muslims!

Also, I\'m a walking testament that Bush voters don\'t have low IQ\'s.  I voted Bush, and my IQ resides somewhere in the 140-150 range.

Also, just because your state\'s presidential vote didn\'t go the way you wanted doesn\'t mean your vote was wasted.  There are plenty of other offices that your vote can (and does) count for.

[TheTaintedSoul]

Originally posted by ArcaneFalcon
I voted Bush...

* sighs, shakes head *
Now why did you do that for? Now i have to go and hurt you... Just wait till i get on a plane to the usa.

Also, just because your state\'s presidential vote didn\'t go the way you wanted doesn\'t mean your vote was wasted.  There are plenty of other offices that your vote can (and does) count for.

Oh didn\'t know that (don\'t know much about the usa political system). Still republicans won on a lot of terrains i gathered here.

[Melbourne]

Originally posted by ArcaneFalcon
Also, just because your state\'s presidential vote didn\'t go the way you wanted doesn\'t mean your vote was wasted.  There are plenty of other offices that your vote can (and does) count for.

Well there is something called the electoral college, that kind of makes the whole popular vote thing all pointless.