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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2004, 06:22:01 pm »
When you play in a MMORPG if you continue to play with this one and with no other, this is because you\'ve built a character, a story, a guild and everythings are here !

Do you want to see that all the things you do are useless ?

Moreover, when a newbee comes he donno how to play he ask and he learn. While he is a newbee he looks at the older like if he comes into a new world that don\'t belong to him... And I dont think its a bad things ! When he looks at the older players he cant imagine be as good as them and listen to them. After he changes off course and there is no problem for him to integrate the group of older player...

So just imagine you are able to defeat older people. Then the newbees will think they are able to play without listening to the older players advices...

And last problem but not the worthless : how many time your mouse or your keyboard will be able to stay alive with all the hit you\'ll give to them ?

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« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2004, 07:08:59 pm »
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how many time your mouse or your keyboard will be able to stay alive with all the hit you\'ll give to them ?


Anger management?

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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2004, 10:04:48 pm »
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how many time your mouse or your keyboard will be able to stay alive with all the hit you\'ll give to them ?


Anger management?

Structurally reinforced, rubber coated titanium keyboard and mouse, and the monitor bolted to the table. :P

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« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2004, 06:29:36 am »
Cirque, that\'s okay, because I don\'t have to give anyone a sufficient reason for anything I do here, unless they hold some authority.

I wouldn\'t mind that actually Seytra, it would be a nice durable set of peripherals.

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« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2004, 07:27:49 am »
Looks like you can do what you like because I dont see any authority around here.

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« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2004, 11:26:18 am »
I am a dedicated FPS fan, I play America\'s Army, Most Halflifemods, Soldat (3rd Person FPS lol), Battlefeild all online and one thing i must point out is that FPS\'s do change, because you get better and own everyone, and then they say your cheating because your sooooo good... aahh..

I am also a dedicated RPG fan, Baldurs Gate 1 & 2, Never Winter Nights*cough* etc, And I love them. Just getting better at skills and spells. Then There are MMORPGs, which are a step better!.

Now That you see im on both sides, i would like to clear up this argument with 3 points :D

Point Number 1  -  \"The Sharp Point\"
I will put this in the simplest terms possable. :D RPG and FPS are NOT compadable!! They Are Different Types Of Games, And need to be left that way. They Have there good points, but thats because there different. Games that try to combind every kind of game play are downright anoying! Thank You

Point Number 2  -  \"The Point That Lags\"
If you have ever played FPSes online you will know if your not on a good server, even if you have cable, it lags, and when it lags, it becomes increasingly difficult and anoying. These servers run small game worlds with the max of about 30 players. Imagine playing this in a massive world with 100+ players. People already complain about lag!. Having FPS elements in a MMORPG i would say is... Impossible

Point Number 3 - \"The Point With No Point\" aka \"Blunt\"
While having dinner, i forgot the 3rd point... but i will blable on and restate the 1st and 2nd points and no one will notice.
Why would you want a n00bie to beat a Lord?
Whats the point in being a lord then?
(hehe, point 3 was accutly just questions so you can make up your own points)

I Would Like To Conclude With A Refined Analysis Of My Argument... but i wont
I will Simpily say...        \"no\"

Have A Nice Day ;)

\"For You, Death Is But A Minor Invonvenience\"

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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2004, 01:12:34 pm »
Well everyone is entitled to there own opinion and I do I agree with what all of you are saying?and yes you guys have negative points as well and I don?t have anything against that.... :rolleyes:

Btw if anyone else wants to add something just remember that it was (I guess) not a very well thought through idea, so try and keep bagging to the minimal  :]

thx agian :))

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« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2004, 04:48:07 pm »
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I am a dedicated FPS fan, I play America\'s Army, Most Halflifemods, Soldat (3rd Person FPS lol), Battlefeild all online and one thing i must point out is that FPS\'s do change, because you get better and own everyone, and then they say your cheating because your sooooo good... aahh..

I am also a dedicated RPG fan, Baldurs Gate 1 & 2, Never Winter Nights*cough* etc, And I love them. Just getting better at skills and spells. Then There are MMORPGs, which are a step better!.

Now That you see im on both sides, i would like to clear up this argument with 3 points :D

Point Number 1  -  \"The Sharp Point\"
I will put this in the simplest terms possable. :D RPG and FPS are NOT compadable!! They Are Different Types Of Games, And need to be left that way. They Have there good points, but thats because there different. Games that try to combind every kind of game play are downright anoying! Thank You

Point Number 2  -  \"The Point That Lags\"
If you have ever played FPSes online you will know if your not on a good server, even if you have cable, it lags, and when it lags, it becomes increasingly difficult and anoying. These servers run small game worlds with the max of about 30 players. Imagine playing this in a massive world with 100+ players. People already complain about lag!. Having FPS elements in a MMORPG i would say is... Impossible

Point Number 3 - \"The Point With No Point\" aka \"Blunt\"
While having dinner, i forgot the 3rd point... but i will blable on and restate the 1st and 2nd points and no one will notice.
Why would you want a n00bie to beat a Lord?
Whats the point in being a lord then?
(hehe, point 3 was accutly just questions so you can make up your own points)

I Would Like To Conclude With A Refined Analysis Of My Argument... but i wont
I will Simpily say...        \"no\"

Have A Nice Day ;)


Whats your frag rate on AAO?

Just  because there arent any games that have successfully combined FPS\'s with RPG\'s doesnt mean that it cant be done well.

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« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2004, 09:36:52 pm »
Currently ive got a hounor of 7 becuse i was TKin some cheaters... teach me for standing up to people lol, i can only get into a couple of servers. frag rating, it depends..  Im a beast with he AK tho :D

Yes I Agree that it \"could\" be done, but not on a mmorpg, unless we all had T1.

\"For You, Death Is But A Minor Invonvenience\"

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« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2004, 09:52:54 pm »
so ok I\'ve no problem in that case (2048kbps)...
but still no !


PS : Deus ex... not online but...

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« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2004, 11:35:41 pm »
---> Everything should be fair and realistic....

---> The battle system should be symple, more power =
---> more damage, more dexterity = bigger % to hit
---> targetm, more speed = faterattacks and better ability
---> to dodge. SIMPLE!

---> There should not be some help system for the
---> begginers, cuz that is just plain cheating, wel at least
---> how I see it.

---> You all want Planeshift to be realistic, right? Well, how  
---> is it actually realistic if a noob beats a master in
---> battle?

---> The only way that would happen if the noob got a
---> super  rare // powerfull weapons (or something)

---> There should be warnings telling what skills noobs
---> should have to have a chence at living before entering
---> a PVP area of PS

---> To Monketh: \"FPS Dweebs\"?!!!! is that an insult??!!!  
---> FPS Games rock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2004, 04:39:33 am »
You know what realy anoys me is when someone gets up and says stuff that realy isnit what i said. it says Chance...in other words you might have a 1 in 10000000 chance of beating a higher \'level\' then you. but with the system we have now its a 0% chance,

PS. not bagging the system just making my point ;)

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« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2004, 05:56:08 am »
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Cirque, that\'s okay, because I don\'t have to give anyone a sufficient reason for anything I do here, unless they hold some authority.

Technically, this is correct, but OTOH, as I\'ve said to someone else on another thread, society wouls be totally screwed if everyone would do as they please as long as the police doesn\'t tell them off. Just because they don\'t have authority doesn\'t mean that they aren\'t important. After all, without the community the authority wouldn\'t be important at all.

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« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2004, 05:57:26 am »
No offence Mondo but if I was to spar with someone who is inexperianced in swordsmanship he would stand about 0% of a chance of beating me and to tell the truth I\'m realy not all that great. So obviously a master swordsman would slice a begginer to ribbins in just a few seconds.

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« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2004, 10:10:17 am »
No offence taken Hatchnet :rolleyes:
Just remember that on FPS there is no 0% chance in anything..not that this game is a FPS.. but you get what i am saying

*phech*still dont get it... :(