Kran reproduction

[Exaero_Fiero]

Originally posted by Merdarion

Originally posted by Parts
Personally, I think that a couple of Kran get together and get a bit \'hot and sweaty\'.

In fact they got *so* hot and sweaty that the rock actually melts and becomes Lava; thus spawning their offspring

Ehh, sounds like Harakiri.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Hara-kiri (Seppuku) - suicidal ritual, bounded to Bushido as a part of a moral. Appeared during the period of feudal development of Japan. Samurai and other representatives of higher estates of Japan commited hara-kiri if their pride was insulted, after commiting an \"unworthy\" action or after death of their suzerein. Later was also added as a punishment for crimes under the court of law.



As far as the kran do not follow the basic concept of life as a form of existing of protein(albumen) bodies, more \"magical\" way can be suggested.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Exaero_Fiero
Hara-kiri (Seppuku) - suicidal ritual

Regardless of what Kran life is, this would fit (i.e. they live -> they can commit suicide, by starving if everything else fails). Also, if you read the setting, you\'ll notice that magic doesn\'t work well on Kran, therefore magic is not the way to go about anything in Kran life (or death). Since lava would melt the Kran, it can be concluded that they most likely will die, which would mean that a self-induced melting would be suicide, which Hara-kiri is as well. (I know that Hara-kiri isn\'t done by creating lava, and I assume that nobody was thinking that anyway.)

[Exaero_Fiero]

Originally posted by Seytra

Originally posted by Exaero_Fiero
Hara-kiri (Seppuku) - suicidal ritual

Regardless of what Kran life is, this would fit (i.e. they live -> they can commit suicide, by starving if everything else fails). Also, if you read the setting, you\'ll notice that magic doesn\'t work well on Kran, therefore magic is not the way to go about anything in Kran life (or death). Since lava would melt the Kran, it can be concluded that they most likely will die, which would mean that a self-induced melting would be suicide, which Hara-kiri is as well. (I know that Hara-kiri isn\'t done by creating lava, and I assume that nobody was thinking that anyway.)

1) Why not? If kran were created by magic, why won\'t they reproduct by magic?


2) Nope, there is no way the (LOL) japanese suicidal ritual (which by the way translated as \"belly-cut\") can fit with the reproductive process of the kran(!). Hara-kiri is a suicide, however you can\'t call any suicide a hara-kiri.

[Seytra]

Are you deliberately misinterpreting what I write?

1) Because the setting says so. Kran are exceptionally bad with magic, and also have high resistance to it, therefore why would they reproduce by it? The fact that they were created by magic also applies to the Lemurs, so why would these not reproduce by magic?

2) I did not, and I know perfectly well how Hara-kiri is performed. Also, it wasn\'t intended to fit the reproductive process. The only thing that was said was that the way that has been proposed (getting hot & sweaty to melt the ground) was a bad idea (and probably meant as joke anyway), because it would be nothing but suicide.

Obviously, the term \"Hara-kiri\" was used to describe \"suicide\" instead of the particular form of suicide it actually refers to, but probably it\'s becoming synonymous for it regardless, just as \"races\" and \"species\" in RPGs.

[Exaero_Fiero]

Originally posted by Seytra
Are you deliberately misinterpreting what I write?

1) Because the setting says so. Kran are exceptionally bad with magic, and also have high resistance to it, therefore why would they reproduce by it? The fact that they were created by magic also applies to the Lemurs, so why would these not reproduce by magic?

1)Because, they have some other way to reproduce. Even if the kran are not designed for using magic, but were created by it, name me a reason, why would they not be able to reproduce by it. As far as kran are not made out of flesh, and instead their inner body is made out of rock (assumption), the only way they can exist is magical, which sounds very strange, considering that \"Kran are exceptionally bad with magic\".

2)Yup, that was a joke...After melting and solidifying kran would be a LITTLE different (colour, build-up), then the original kran.

Maybe its just my ignorant self, which imagined kran doing a hara-kiri... ) Haven\'t seen such a generalization in my life and that was my problem.


P.S. Why are we talking about kran reproduction anyways, if it wn\'t be a part of a game?

[Chestar]

Hmm, this is a most interesting theory. However, your little bit about the seed using acids to dissolve the rock in which the seed has taken to thriving in lacks a small something the definition of dissolve is:
1. To pass into solution.
2. To become liquid; melt.
3. To break up or disperse.
4. To become disintegrated; disappear.
5. To be overcome emotionally or psychologically: I dissolved into helpless laughter.
6. To lose clarity or definition; fade away.
7. To shift shots in a motion-picture film or videotape by having one shot fade out while the next appears behind it and grows clearer as the first one dims.
8. To reduce to a liquid form; melt
9. To break into basic component elemental parts; disenegrate

n.
1. A transition in a motion-picture film or videotape made by fading out one shot while the next one grows clearer. Also called lap dissolve.

Thus having been said, this is saying that by dissolving a rock, if you refer to the ninth definition of dissolve, you are reducing the rock back into the silicon and other elements that were the basis of the foundation of the rock, and if you refer to definitions 2 and 8, it is saying that the object that is dissolved would be reduced to a liquid.

The point that I am trying to get across by saying this is that if the rock the seed is in dissolves, then there will be pieces of the dissolved rock just floating about inside, and leaving the rock with a certain hollow characteristic. So maybe the quickest way to fix this(which I mistakenly have been avoiding and I hope you all forgive me for this) would be to say that the seed absorbs the disentegrated or dissolved fragments and compounds of the rock.

[Jaakon]

Is it official the the Kran where made by magic?
Thats rather stupid I guess with all their magic resistance...

Originally posted by Exaero_Fiero
Why are we talking about kran reproduction anyways, if it wn\'t be a part of a game?

He, he thats it!
They cant reproduce.

[Adeli]

You haven\'t read the setting, that\'s apparent.
Perhaps you should?
Talad (you know who that is?) created the Kran with magic, just as Laanx (ring any bells) created the Lemurs with magic.

Seytra, nobody seems to have any real objections to your theory

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Chestar
The point that I am trying to get across by saying this is that if the rock the seed is in dissolves, then there will be pieces of the dissolved rock just floating about inside, and leaving the rock with a certain hollow characteristic.

Absolutely. The Kran sould be growing inside this space.

Originally posted by Chestar
So maybe the quickest way to fix this(which I mistakenly have been avoiding and I hope you all forgive me for this) would be to say that the seed absorbs the disentegrated or dissolved fragments and compounds of the rock.

Which is what I wrote:

Originally posted by Seytra
the seed starts to dissolve the stone from inside (...) and incorporates it into itself

@ Exaero_Fiero and Jaakon: for roleplaying purposes. It is good to at least have a clue about what yur race\'s reproduction is like when talking about it. Furthermore, when you talk about how you were raised, it makes a big difference if you grew from stone or were born, or were an egg or whatever. Furthermore, this theory will, as I have indicated, be a major factor in Kran society, because usually societies are created around reproduction.

Furthermore, magic resistance and magical creation not necessarily are mutually exclusive. I indeed find it strange, but OTOH, Kran weren\'t created in a controlled way, which explains a lot. Also, this explains, or rather exposes, a lot about the way magic works in Yliakum.

@ Adeli: It indeed looks like it, which probably is a good sign. Hopefully, the settings department isn\'t going to rip it apart too soon.

[Cirque]

Originally posted by Adeli
You haven\'t read the setting, that\'s apparent.
Perhaps you should?
Talad (you know who that is?) created the Kran with magic, just as Laanx (ring any bells) created the Lemurs with magic.

Seytra, nobody seems to have any real objections to your theory

I think they need to modify the title of \"setting\" and replace it with something more appropriate.

[Exaero_Fiero]

Why? Setting = introduction and description of the story enviroment, pretty appropriate term to me...

[Chestar]

Sorry Seytra I was tired when i posted that; not really paying attention. It seems i missed your sentence about it incorportating the dissolved rock.
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Jaakon please dont come here ruining our time. As Seytra said earlier, it is important to know how the world that we exist in works, and seeing as our characters live in PS, it would be important while on PS that we know most everything so that we dont have any factual questions that have no answer. There are some things that sit in the back of someone\'s mind, unanswered, and I am not sure about you but i know it bugs me after a while.
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Seytra I have enjoyed reading your posts on this thread, as well as everyone else\'s. I have learned a lot about how people think in this game, and it has been very interesting reading about everyone\'s opinion of the actions that should be taken place to set this obstacle of ignorance right. Thank you Seytra, and everyone who posted.

[Cirque]

Originally posted by Exaero_Fiero
Why? Setting = introduction and description of the story enviroment, pretty appropriate term to me...

Because when I see it I immediately think poor literacy and assume they mean \"settings\" and avoid that link. If other people think the same way then they probably disregard that link to. I personally think theres better words to choose from. I just doesnt read well.

[Adeli]

At first I thought it was inaptly named too, but think of it as the \"setting\" of PlaneShift.
Try and think of a better name, see what you come up with?

[Cirque]

Ill do just that.