Fairness

[Jaakon]

If its fun to you to ruin the game, just to feel more powerful for a moment...

[Androgos]

Hacking is really really good. Yes you heard me, good.
Why this sudden turn then?

Most of the things people associate wierdly is this:
Hacker = cheater = bad
Sure, a hacker can turn a newly discoved exploit to a cheat, but these findings are really appriciated as long as no cheating stuff is produced more than needed for a state-of-concept program/mod to be used on own servers.

For all this.. If you have spent hours and hours in MB of collecting crystals and think you are unfair threatend, though luck then. World ain\'t fair.
And to all of you that complain about cheaters here and there: Sure, they messed with MB, but the things got discovered and fixed thanks to them!

Think about that will ya?

// blueCommand

[Xordan]

yay for blueCommand!!!
And I\'ve got around 180 diamonds I think, and I want a wipe, so there

[zedd_owd]

firstly i want to say that i am not posting this is as an insult to the people who have worked hard for the crystals. I am sure that those who genuinely worked hard collect the crystals in MB are honourable people.
The fact remains as posted by others that those who cheated can;t be 100 % detected.
on another noted, a database wipe would not a bad idea after all, as the way the economy was construected in MB was highly inflationary.  To those who cares about planeshift , do you really want pass this inflationary problem on to the next Planshift milestone CB ??  in other words do u want to pass the rampant inflationary cycle on the next phase ?  Inflation can destroy an online game.
finally i want to thank the honourable people that supported a database wiped, in which it can stop the old problem of MB, results in a level playing field and STOMPS INFLATION  IN CB !!
I think the best way to resolve is to have to poll on the issue.

[Adeli]

I used to feel that they should be wiped, I have enough for a mug and a bit left over and that\'s it, but now I don\'t care. Wipe them, keep them, I\'m fine either way. I might even give away what ever I do get to keep, to make a fresh start, as my character will be completely new, why should he have any wealth to his name?

People will always cheat, nothing can really be done about it, prevention will be sidestepped, so they either get punished, or get away with it. I\'ll happily continue to adventure, pauper or prince. Lots of people want to benefit from their hard work, I guess they are entitled. I don\'t care as I said.

Efflixi, what do you have to pay Armeen (Waylander) for, and how much?

[Moogie]

Originally posted by Androgos
Sure, they messed with MB, but the things got discovered and fixed thanks to them!

Think about that will ya?

// blueCommand

I don\'t like this... sure, things got discovered. Found and fixed after the two people who caused so much havoc were banned from the game. Praising them for doing this is completely wrong. You can find bugs and exploits and report them without exploiting them and ruining the server for everyone in the process.

[tygerwilde]

no, hacking in testing phases IS a good thing, just so long as the hackers are trying to hack all the systems available, and are making thorough reports on exactly what they\'re doing. hackers, quite simply, make the best beta testers. they\'re not hurting anyone by doing this, and in my opinion are earning what they make in game by doing it. however, if they continue to hack for their own gain in the full version, or if they fail to report the hacks they\'ve accomplished, it should be punished severely


remember people, this is pre alpha, we aren\'t here to play, we\'re here to test, and what hackers do is a benefit at this point, as it enables the devs to block the hacks before the game is in it\'s final version.

[Moogie]

Yeah, and find out who isn\'t worth keeping around.

[Xordan]

How come I seem to be the only person who wasn\'t effected by the \'ruined server\'?? I really couldn\'t tell the difference between when a cheater was playing and when he wasn\'t

[Adeli]

Perhaps you never logged in when the crystal spawning went haywire and hardly anything appeared except for in places where it was seemingly impossible to go.

That said, I feel that what they did helped greatly... The best way to ensure protection, is to have people break through it, and then fix the loophole they used.

[Vengeance]

Why dont the devs make a poll to see what more players want? Wouldnt that be the only truly fair thing?

Umm, because this isn\'t a democracy?   ;-)

- Vengeance

[Kiva]

Short summary:

1) People cheat.
2) Devs find people who cheat.
3) Devs ban them, unless the people turned themselves in, as it isn\'t a cheat. Then it\'s just a bug report.
4) Cheat gets fixed.
5) No more cheat.

That\'s fair.

If you don\'t like that people cheat, then learn to cheat yourself, and end up getting banned from the game for doing it.

And as for what Vengeance said... I couldn\'t have put it better myself.

[Altharion]

If you don\'t like that people cheat, then learn to cheat yourself, and end up getting banned from the game for doing it.

then we all know what we must do!  X(

[Robinmagus]

yes, that is like an invite to cheat and i want a wipe! ppl who cheat have diffrent accounts, and probably gave cheated stuff to those accounts so....its totaly unfair

*and the crowd chants \"wipe MB, wipe MB, wipeMB\"*

[Altharion]

what the hell are you talking about?