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SSimas

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« on: December 29, 2004, 06:12:06 pm »
Hi all,
first of all sry for my english, this is not my native language. And now to the problem:
at this stage of the game there are a lot of races, which is designed mainly for using some kind of magic way (e.g. Diabolo has a lot char but low str, end, so best things what they can do is using dark or crystal magic. U can say that U can customize it how U wish during custom creation, but they still will be weak at physical combat), but try to get your first 2000 trias with char like this for your first spell then there are so many players and so less monsters and your attack is one of the weakest of them all :( . Then next step: U go to the magic shop and there are ONLY 4 glyphs and there are 6 ways of magic and no description is given about that glyphs and spells which u can cast with them ( i dont know maybe there are more somewhere but i can\'t find it ) !!! But lets say U got 1 that fits your magic school...  Third step U purified it and now U wanna try it to find out its posibilities. Lets see at my position: I got spell weakness and then i am at 8 stage in dark magic school (yeah took some time to figure out what fits best to me in custom creation :) ) i have to lower spell power to <=50 cos other ways it fails near 90 percents of casting. Spell casting takes a LOOONG time and uses pretty much mana and after that it gives less damage per tick that I can do with my simple sword bought from blacksmith and sharpened mining tool ( have lvl 2 in sword handling ) . Well it decreases targets strenght by 10 points but at this stage of my char lvl its useless cos monsters dont like to attack me :) they are happy to take my powerless hits without answer :) So spell is USELESS same as wizards :( :( :(
My opinion:
first spells MUST be something to make wizards usefull in combat ( damage dealers or healers or supporters/buffers ) cos now its only time wasting while being a wizard ( dont know maybe other schools have better spells but for now at least 3 ways of magic are useless ( 2 cos there are no glyphs to buy and dark way ).
I dont see post something like this so i want U (developers) to look at wizards future, cos with situation like it is now there will be only warriors, knights and archers ( dont know anything about this class, but i saw one killing rat in 1 or 2 hits ) and that means that your hard created magic system will \"die\". . .

P.S. again sorry for my horrible english.

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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2004, 08:23:14 pm »
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Hi all,
first of all sry for my english, this is not my native language. And now to the problem:
at this stage of the game there are a lot of races, which is designed mainly for using some kind of magic way (e.g. Diabolo has a lot char but low str, end, so best things what they can do is using dark or crystal magic. U can say that U can customize it how U wish during custom creation, but they still will be weak at physical combat), but try to get your first 2000 trias with char like this for your first spell then there are so many players and so less monsters and your attack is one of the weakest of them all :( . Then next step: U go to the magic shop and there are ONLY 4 glyphs and there are 6 ways of magic and no description is given about that glyphs and spells which u can cast with them ( i dont know maybe there are more somewhere but i can\'t find it ) !!! But lets say U got 1 that fits your magic school...  Third step U purified it and now U wanna try it to find out its posibilities. Lets see at my position: I got spell weakness and then i am at 8 stage in dark magic school (yeah took some time to figure out what fits best to me in custom creation :) ) i have to lower spell power to <=50 cos other ways it fails near 90 percents of casting. Spell casting takes a LOOONG time and uses pretty much mana and after that it gives less damage per tick that I can do with my simple sword bought from blacksmith and sharpened mining tool ( have lvl 2 in sword handling ) . Well it decreases targets strenght by 10 points but at this stage of my char lvl its useless cos monsters dont like to attack me :) they are happy to take my powerless hits without answer :) So spell is USELESS same as wizards :( :( :(
My opinion:
first spells MUST be something to make wizards usefull in combat ( damage dealers or healers or supporters/buffers ) cos now its only time wasting while being a wizard ( dont know maybe other schools have better spells but for now at least 3 ways of magic are useless ( 2 cos there are no glyphs to buy and dark way ).
I dont see post something like this so i want U (developers) to look at wizards future, cos with situation like it is now there will be only warriors, knights and archers ( dont know anything about this class, but i saw one killing rat in 1 or 2 hits ) and that means that your hard created magic system will \"die\". . .

P.S. again sorry for my horrible english.


First of all, the Player Guide (which is in your start menu folder, had you just bothered looking there) explains the magic, and how the ways work.

Yes, mages are worthless when they get their first spell. What did you expect? Uber pwnage of d00m unstoppability? Well sorry. If you want to be good at magics, you\'d better start working on it and eventually you -will- be good. L33tness doesn\'t come to those who say \"omfgz mage be c00l stuffz so I\'m b mage okthx\". Work hard on it and it\'ll pay off. If not, then warrior is the class for you.
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2004, 08:39:31 pm »
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Yes, mages are worthless when they get their first spell. What did you expect? Uber pwnage of d00m unstoppability? Well sorry. If you want to be good at magics, you\'d better start working on it and eventually you -will- be good. L33tness doesn\'t come to those who say \"omfgz mage be c00l stuffz so I\'m b mage okthx\". Work hard on it and it\'ll pay off. If not, then warrior is the class for you.


Oh grono, you always rain on the l337 mage\'s parades... :( But ANY type of combat is slow and tedious to start with, not just mages. From the lack of enemies to the somewhat expensive items (for warriors and mages who are completely new to PS) starting out is rough. All I can say is to keep trying. No one starts as the best character after 3 minutes of gameplay, even if they are insanely good with their mouse or keyboard.

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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2004, 09:25:37 pm »
Gronomist i read all player guide from the very beginig to the end. But just look around how many there are fighters and how many peoples casts spells. I can bet that 1 from every 25 or even 1 of 50 is using magic instead of weapons. And now i just cant cast spell cos there are 3 peoples on one rat and until i cast my spell rat is alredy dead :( and stronger creatures even didnt feel it . I dont want that first spells can deal a lot damage but it prices can be lower . And Gronomist can U tell me where can i buy/find second dark way spell plz? :)

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2004, 09:34:17 pm »
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Gronomist i read all player guide from the very beginig to the end. But just look around how many there are fighters and how many peoples casts spells. I can bet that 1 from every 25 or even 1 of 50 is using magic instead of weapons. And now i just cant cast spell cos there are 3 peoples on one rat and until i cast my spell rat is alredy dead :( and stronger creatures even didnt feel it . I dont want that first spells can deal a lot damage but it prices can be lower . And Gronomist can U tell me where can i buy/find second dark way spell plz? :)


Currently there are only very few spells and glyphs implemeted, but things get added as they are tested and perfected. Just check the magic shop from time to time, and see if he has any new glyphs that you can buy.
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2004, 11:40:40 pm »
Spells are not that bad....

With the not-really-good AI, you can easily cast spells at will on ennemies, taking no hit in return. And spells can also get through the uber-armor of Trepors and Clackers...
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2004, 12:00:49 am »
Well from personal experience mages can rock big time :) I have two friends who have been playing about the same time and have about the same amount as points and one of them is hack and slash to say it the other went mage (and can\'t get through some doors ROFL) . But he out the mage on all defence now when they duel my mage friend is kicking ass becuase he has one spell firespell to attack and my other friend can barely hit him because my magefriend went uberdefencive ;)

Don\'t know how good this works with monsters ofcourse but mages can rock in duels atleast thats for sure :)

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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2004, 12:14:32 am »
The great wisdom doesn\'t come quickly grasshopper
lol

i suck at magic to b/c i haven\'t been i game since the day it came out  :(


my how times have changed.....

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2004, 08:52:40 am »
Ty Gronomist i will check mage shop sometimes :)
i saw that crystal way spell gives some damage so im probably going to create new char and transfer all i got into it :), cos there will be a wipe soon if i heard correctly ? And after that we will see if there are good spells in game :) :)

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2004, 10:56:44 am »
Damn Weakness is bugged !!! if I kill someone with this spell target didnt die his life indicator shows 0 percent of life but i cant loot him and dont get exp !!! if i try to attack him in meele combat : \"Target is already dead \" apears :( gonna post this in bug section

P.S. Seem that admins have done something with spell weakness :) now it do enought damage :) :) :)
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2004, 12:50:47 pm »
Don\'t know if this has already been asked, but are there any Brown-Way spells yet? And is it possible to do anything with the animal-glyph?