character names [rant]

[NATIK]

Gronomist: That may be but it is still annoying having to get a hold of a GM.

I dont see why Lastnames are unique i for one would like all my chars to have the same last name. But right now they have things that are variations of each other.
I think First names should always be unigue as /tell fx uses first name and it would be very annoying to /tell somebody and 5 people got the message and answered back, after which you have to decipher who is who...

[Vengeance]

First names are unique so that when you send someone a /tell or specify their name as a target you don\'t have to use both names.  It is already enough typing as it is.

Last names are unique in character creation so that we can control when last names do not have to be unique, such as marriages or other family sorts of ties.  Thus when you see two characters with the same last name, that should mean there is a quite significant relationship between those characters.  Personally, I believe that \"being in the same account\" isn\'t enough of a reason.

And Stickman, I\'m sorry that you have obviously never played one of these games before because they all have these uniqueness requirements.

- Vengeance

[stickman]

i hate when people assume things about other people to form their defence, its lame  :rolleyes:

acutally ive played many games with naming requirments, non as scrict as this... one game i tried to play i had to submit my name for consideration along with a roleplay story to back it up. then u had to answer a questionaire regarding roleplaying choices you would make. But they didn\'t even have this unique last and first, why? what do u think will happen when your community climbs to like 50k players registered who each have to come up with a unique first and last, it will be INSANE.

when i played yesterday i already saw pker style names so dont tell me this system is working, cause it isn\'t... they just have to more creative with what they pick.

[John_Thazer]

Originally posted by Vengeance
First names are unique so that when you send someone a /tell or specify their name as a target you don\'t have to use both names.  It is already enough typing as it is.

Last names are unique in character creation so that we can control when last names do not have to be unique, such as marriages or other family sorts of ties.  Thus when you see two characters with the same last name, that should mean there is a quite significant relationship between those characters.  Personally, I believe that \"being in the same account\" isn\'t enough of a reason.

And Stickman, I\'m sorry that you have obviously never played one of these games before because they all have these uniqueness requirements.

- Vengeance

But think of real world Veng...we don\'t have all first names unique....but lastnames seen more unique....

I was the first person to complain about this...with my topic...simply disappearing into the void...well...

I see the reason why it is done...but it is kinda stupid...

So...thats leaves me with having calling myself something stupid like Jonathan or Jon...when my name is John...ahh...so very important is my name...hard to let go...everytime i look at my disfugured name...i beging to cry...(sobs) (cries into a pillow)...(sniff, sniff)

Well from what I heard there will be database wipe out...soon...well...you never know how soon..but that\'s what I heard...will try to get on first second and call my RIGHTFUL name....John Thazer...

[Vengeance]

\"Real life\" arguments are irrelevant because everyone looks and sounds unique, there are many r/l cues about who someone is talking to, and this sort of thing.

Maybe this is why games don\'t have people named \"John\" running around but \"Skemta\" or something instead. :-)

You can keep arguing about this but this uniqueness requirement is not going away.

- Venge

[John_Thazer]

Originally posted by Vengeance
\"Real life\" arguments are irrelevant because everyone looks and sounds unique, there are many r/l cues about who someone is talking to, and this sort of thing.

Maybe this is why games don\'t have people named \"John\" running around but \"Skemta\" or something instead. :-)

You can keep arguing about this but this uniqueness requirement is not going away.

- Venge

Pfaa...No point keep arguing about it...I made my point and that is it...As i said it is hard it\'s just feels wrong when using something else than John...Yes yes might be a boring name, but it\'s the name that been used in RP for years, more than 10 now...

[Hatchnet]

I agree with John that it is agrivateing to be planning and useing a name and haveing someonelse see it and use it before you get the chance. However it is not hard to come up with a good character name and litterature is a good place to start. Take my names for instance:

Hatchnet Dubon
Hatchnet was a drow in Robert Salvatores \"Homeland\", and Dubon is nothing more than a tortured play on \"Dubroe\" (Lancelot Dubroe)

Japeth Artur
Ok I\'ll admit I\'ve no idea where the Japeth comes from but artur is celtic for the bear; and is also the root for the name Aurther.

Faterus Alberto
As someone has already guessed this is a play on the name of my sisters cat \"Fat Albert\"

[John_Thazer]

Originally posted by Hatchnet
I agree with John that it is agrivateing to be planning and useing a name and haveing someonelse see it and use it before you get the chance. However it is not hard to come up with a good character name and litterature is a good place to start. Take my names for instance:

Hatchnet Dubon
Hatchnet was a drow in Robert Salvatores \"Homeland\", and Dubon is nothing more than a tortured play on \"Dubroe\" (Lancelot Dubroe)

Japeth Artur
Ok I\'ll admit I\'ve no idea where the Japeth comes from but artur is celtic for the bear; and is also the root for the name Aurther.

Faterus Alberto
As someone has already guessed this is a play on the name of my sisters cat \"Fat Albert\"

Of course, it\'s not hard to come up with original name, I am rather good at it...If you try to find \"John Thazer\" on the internet, all refernces are to myself...there isn\'t another \"John Thazer\" on the net..., I am rather good at coming up with names (as I said), after countless pages I wrote of my world of Haeron...well not a book yet but a good draft...so coming up with new names is not a problem...

I agree Hatchnet, it is annoying to have someone has taken your name...especially for sorry sad people, who just can\'t use any other name without feeling wrong...BUT in my experience of such Role Playing such as PlaneShift, i have not encountered such problem...ever...Yes your name must be original, but why do we have to limit ourself so far?

Coming up with names is not hard...it is forcing to use them that is a challenge...

I still can\'t get used to unique first names, whenever i do /say I put the whole name...

Try to understand me...I used John Thazer over 10 years as i said before...John wouldn\'t be a...say...name that was used where I originally came from...it wasn\'t untill later that I moved to England...so in my eyes my RP name is not  boring like it would be to you Veng...since you from USA...and name John would be a common name...

So once again a question...why limit our RP experience...yes you made the game so it is easier to use /say option since you only need to type in first name...but the game isn\'t about /say option...it\'s about community, RPing...

Well that\'s a much as I want to say about this..for a moment...and on a lighter nore Happy 2005!!!!

[Under the moon]

Just wondering, does a GM have the ability to change first names to match others?  Gronomist seems to imply that it can be done with last names.

[Ghostslayer]

Originally posted by Under the moon
Just wondering, does a GM have the ability to change first names to match others?  Gronomist seems to imply that it can be done with last names.

No... first names must be unique.  Always.  Otherwise the /tell system and whatever else commands use a name would require both first and last names, requiring way to much typing as Venge mentioned.

[Seytra]

OK, I might be alone with this, but I think it\'s totally lame to use names off books or other stories. I\'d reather use the first thing the randomiser comes up with than name myself Eowyn or something like that. Furthermore, I only very rarely use one name for more than one game, and never for different types / settings: one name has exactly one character attached to it, and if I create a new char (even if in a different game), I create a new name along with it.
John Thazer would IMO fit a SF game or RL setting, but not a medieval fantasy setting.

[druke]

am i the only one that thinks the system is good and works fine?

[Kixie]

Originally posted by Vengeance
First names are unique so that when you send someone a /tell or specify their name as a target you don\'t have to use both names.  It is already enough typing as it is.

Last names are unique in character creation so that we can control when last names do not have to be unique, such as marriages or other family sorts of ties.  Thus when you see two characters with the same last name, that should mean there is a quite significant relationship between those characters.  Personally, I believe that \"being in the same account\" isn\'t enough of a reason.

And Stickman, I\'m sorry that you have obviously never played one of these games before because they all have these uniqueness requirements.

- Vengeance

Well do you plan on having a player controlled family tree idea? I think it would be a great fix for everyone. GM\'s would no longer be bothered and players would have more customization at their finger tips. I\'m sure it would cause a couple of conflicts with naming when the players are able to pick familly names, but those could be worked out and would give much more happiness than conflict.

[Black_rose]

the way i see it you should be able to have the same first name as someone and the same last name as someone but not the same full name


like you could have

ted hammelton
and
ted johnson

or

ted johnson
and
frank johnson

but never

frank johnson
and
frank johnson

get it?

[Stanly Lentus]

Originally posted by Black_rose
the way i see it you should be able to have the same first name as someone and the same last name as someone but not the same full name

I agree, and I also think real life applies to this game as well. This game will have much role play which is like a simulation of real life. With houses and other things coming later in the game then little communities will start to develop. This will be like real life. And becuase this is like real life then there will eventually be hundreds and thousands of players. It will be hard for them to have names that they want. I have a few friends with the same name, and one of them even has the same name as me, this is just stuff we have come to except in a community.