where doi get a copy of the necronauminon

[Black_rose]

does anyone know? i am doing research into a bunch of religions to compare with what the catholic/christian bibles say about them also to compare with those bibles to see what they have in common.


i also need,
the jewish bible(don\'t know the name) in english
the christian and chrostian dirrivitive bibles(like catholic/protestent ect. ect.)
and whatever else you can get me,


also i am not doing this to critisize anyone, or to anger anyone but just so i can know what i can

[Foresteer]

necronomicon is overated.. if interested in arcane necromancy and stuff just look up \"Grimoires\" (books like the necronomicon) at your librarys index site (don\'t know it then try http://www.libdex.com/ and type in the libraries name.. my library has 4 copies of the neronomicon and several other grimoires) also try http://www.questia.com/SM.qst


well have fun reading.. may also want to read about early druidism as it has a lot of ties of the curch of england and the early catholic church

and do you want any other religious texts i know of?
or other forms of the bible?

(if you mean what other just reliogious text then grab a pen.. as i could innondate you with titles and reading material XD however from what i have leanred so far my \"religious\" lean pretty far away *on another planet actualy* from orthdox)

[verideon]

Have you gone to any religios book shops. Sometimes you find christian bookshops. I\'m not sure about the other religions. I am a Christian and I have a copy of our bible. If you need anything out of that just ask me and you will receive .

I can tell you if you compare Christian\'s and Jehovah witnesses\'s bibles I can tell you woooaaahhh there is a lot of differance, But they still have stuff about the birth of jesus christ and the death and rise of him.

[Foresteer]

lol somethimes find christian book shops? i don\'t know if its my geography *texas* or my bad luck.. but i find at least a church every block and a christian book store every major shopping area XD

lol ask me about orgone and how it relates to magnetism gravity and leylines with direct effect of creating extra-dimentional portals or some other esoteric science or masonic rituals (not stoneworking), neo-conservitive plots to create a NWO, anti-grav and free energy, montuak and HAARP weather control and i am your man christianity i used be all up on *when i was forced to be that is* but am not the best man for the job... way out there science and the fabric of the multi-verse *pick me!! *

basic christianity *you could ask me i know a lot about it.. but i generaly don\'t like it :/*

[Bardialus]

The necronomicon is supposed to be the ranting of the mad arab!  they are the ravings of him during the times when he contacted the demon plains and spoke to the great demons.  It is a book which is supposed to explain how you can contact the demon plain and use them for yourself.  It isnt a religious book of sorts, the only reason it can be classified as, is that it is listed as the books of the library of Crowther.

You could also use David Ike as inspiration, although the man clearly bases all his arguments on the TV show \'V\' its a good read.  It helps understand other people\'s view of the world and how we interract with it.

I downloaded a copy of the major religious texts off of the internet and found quite a scary basic relationship between the points of the major religions i.e what they preach and what they require of their followers.

I back the idea of reading about the ancient religions as they have provided the basis for many religions of today.

[Foresteer]

Well David Icke has quite a lot of basis in fact actualy.. one just needs to have read a lot of other paranormal material for any of it to make sense

(no matter what ALL books on paranormality have connections to each other.. unless the book is total crock for intance \"OMG is teh alieines!! and bigfeet!!\" crypto-zoology tied to hybrid experiments at S-4, S-4 tied to area 51, area 51 tied to government alliences with grey alien faction and all that tied to basic breeching of galactic laws {galactic laws tied to remote viewing and astral projection})

So basicaly everything is tied to everything else.. making it a very hard topic to research as one must know many things previously to understand it.. as just like mathmatics previously learned things build on themselves (addition is used in multiplication.. multiplication in division both of them in algebra and so on) knowledge is exponentially connected to knowledge all inventions have at least one other invention that spawned them.. just the light bulb required man to invent glass-blowing, harness electricity, manufacture textiles, and create a filement solution (knowledge of chemestry)

And Bard isn\'t it creepy though? The norse have \"hel\" the christians have \"hell\"

Ancient Egypt has \"Thoth\" christians have \"Christ\"

Also have you heard of the the possible location of the library of thoth? if a perfect exponential sprial is drawn around all of egypts momuments then it points to one spot!! (thoth god of knowledge.. knowledge being exponential.. coinky-dink? i am betting not ... )

don\'t even get me started on telsa\'s \"death ray\" and edgar cayce channel an atlantian \"death ray\" that both use electromagnetics to channel DoR (deadly orgone also negitive life energy) and how the chamber of thoth is suppost to hold all atlantian knowledge

Also didn\'t Aleister Crowley have some method of extra-dimmentional contact after exploring the ancient pyramids? (crowley was a madman however before he was driven insane his works had almost as much metaphor to etherality as the bible)

EDIT: sorry if this seems like random gibberish.. but my mind has had to adapt to the crazy mixed-up everything being connected nature of true science and knowledge XD so i tend to speak in riddles and puzzles about non-\"normal\" (what is normal anyway?) matters of the \"world\" (to understand the puzzle one must think like it i guess :/)

[Kwip]

Might want to check out this site, it might have some of what you were lookin\' for. http://www.sacred-texts.com

[yhevhe]

That\'s a really deep matter I say... Necronomicon is not an important book, I think it\'s all fiction. Better look for some grimoires, like Foresteer said. If you really want to get deep, you will have to start reading like a crazy, and you\'ll have to be prepared to think and meditate about a lot of things... maybe you will end up changed after all that... And be careful, for there is too much stupid thing out there... There are many esoteric schools and all, and you have to get some experience before you can really tell what is good or real or what is false.

[Foresteer]

Yeah seriosuly so many people trying to capitalize on the \"new age\" stuff... however once you spend some time in it you can deftly tell whats crap and whats not (i have had about a decade so.. woot! 10 years telling the \"system\" to shove it )

Also yeah you will hae to read a lot.. it took me approx 250 books read (on about every topic imagionable)before it even began to peice itself together. Also there is a lot of reading, thinking when not reading, thinking about what to read and just thinking random thoughts XD

Originally posted by yhevhe
If you really want to get deep, you will have to start reading like a crazy

Oh trust me i do.. as i am a crazy (a crazy what exactly i have no clue O.o)

I actualy started learning all this after an intence interest in history and then picking up \"The Chariots of the gods\" that had been mishelved at my library.. the rest is well \"history\" (funny how he greatest adventures are always started randomly and non-intentionaly {not mistakes mind you})

Also Norse mythology has a lot of good hints into the multi-verse and other dimmentions and wave-legths of reality (such as asgard, midgard, the world tree with 9 realms etc. not to mention that loki sure is a character .)
Not to mention a good read anyway with a lot of insight into englands (the anglo-saxsons mostly) base beliefs as they used to be inhabited by the norse

[Black_rose]

yeah i got into this after watching a greek god show on the history channel (i know it\'s not always true on that channel but hey alot of it is) they compared a bit of the stories of greeks with modern gods, they also said that muslims(i think), islams, jews christians and dirivitives all have many things in common with their rules (some have other things but they all have certain stories) and their roots, but recently i saw on an abc news broadcast about the tsunami\'s saying that the hindu\'s have a christ-like god as well (forget wich one) i also want to compare norse mythology and greco-roman mythology


so anything on those.

mabye the original bibal before the middle ages, before they supposedly modified it, (changes that might have downplayed certain religions like {errrrrrrr i for get the name, wicka? don\'t think it\'s actualy peaghan})

(man that historychannel is rubbing off if i can remember all of this stuff 8o guess im not as dumb as i thought )


also if that offended you don\'t take it hard that is what i heard from the history channel

[Foresteer]

i saw that too :D they total forgot certian gods though :/ oh well.. its wicca and its a pagan religion ;)

and hahahah me? get offended? this manner of stuff is my life! (as is offending others >:D)

EDIT: i\'ll be glad to assist in any manner of knowledge you choose to pursue.. the \"wierd\" stuff is my main realm though XD

[Bardialus]

I like the fact that the original bible was written nearly 2oo years after the \'birth of christ\'  That kinda makes the ideals of it a little suspicious to me.

All I can say and no offence to any believers is that Christinaity seems to be a religion that has founded and flourished on the principles and stories of old religions.  Jericho foir example.  When the story in the bible states they rode round the walls blowing trumpets etc, there has been proof that the whole place was built on a fault line...so who\'s to say that on one day it just went.  Hmm strange that or is it because he works in mysterious ways???

And Hell is what you make it I think.  It is symbolised by endless suffering.

[yhevhe]

Sorry, I meant madman, not just crazy

I also started with some of this thanks to my interest in history... and then some medieval looking games that had some magic, oh well.

Norse mythology is so interesting, you will want to read as many al you can. There is a book about rune magic that I bought some time ago, and it\'s still one of my favorites, i think the english title to be like \"Futhark: A Rune Magic Manual\" by Edred Thorsson. I recommend it. Also, after yo have read learned a little about norse myth, you may want to search about the relation between their religion and the other kinds of chamanism in the world.

Just be careful about what wicca think you get into, not everything is good or real or anything, many people just want the money of your pocket. As with anything...

I think the hindu christ like god you say may be Krshna? By the way, hindu religion, myths and history is very interesting. Reading Mahabarata, Ramayana, Vedas... it\'s so beautiful.

About Christianity... if one just watches it, you  see that Christ does not need people to believe, respect or whatever those old stories, places, people... Most of the old stories come from the Jew tradition, and Jesus used them because, well, he lived amongst the Jews. He used Jew stories to illustrate many of his points, and used them as a vehicle for his teachings. Maybe if he was born in China, he would have used their stories with the same purpose. The Bible was written by the Greeks if I\'m not wrong, just a compilation of books with stories that contained moral lessons, and that served to explain, or reinforce what Jesus told. But, I just think that a religion is there to make people reach what they want, to be really happy, to have a good life, and afterlife, if that really exist; it\'s there too to make people leave the mundane ways of life they are leading, and to make them see and learn what is beyond. So, most of the time it does not really matters if this one existed or not, if that city was destroyed, or that person killed, what really matters is the teaching, and if that teaching is valuable or not, nothing more.

I think too that reading a lot and not doing a thing isn\'t really productive, there\'s a point where lecture doesn\'t give you anything more than you already know, so you have to investigate by yourself...

[Noctis Lamnia]

This quote comes from an actual necromancer:

Originally written by Ashnook of OF
Ok, the most common question I get is \"Is the Necronomicon a fake?\".  Well, yes an no.  No, it is not some ancient tome written in the 700s.  Yes it is a very powerful grimorie.  It is loosely based on various mesopotamian sources, some fictional HP Lovecraft stuff, and a good story line.  Many scholars make the claim that a lot of stuff in the book that is based on mesopotamian writings are very poorly translated....but from a magickian\'s point of view these mistranslations are clearly blinds in my honest opinion.  The scholars point of view and the magickians will never agree.

http://www.amazon.com

The Necronomicon can be bought there somewhere, just search for it.

[Noctis Lamnia]

Oh, also, if you\'re looking for religions based on necromancy, you\'ll want to research the Goetic spirits.