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Noctis Lamnia

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« on: January 05, 2005, 06:05:20 pm »
What are your views on time travel?

Personally, I believe it\'s possible.  I\'m not gonna go into my whole belief system on the way the universe works, but I will say I believe time travel is possible.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2005, 07:56:11 pm »
You can\'t travel backwards into time (unless you change into antimatter ==> antimatter travels backwards into time).
Speeding up time would be possible by going at 99.99999% of the light speed.

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2005, 09:06:28 pm »
There we go with science again.

?_?

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2005, 09:15:23 pm »
Sigh... You\'d be surprised.
Tell me about the cases where science has been wrong.

If science is incorrect, it\'s because there has been an error in the logic. The error is fixed, and the new idea is correct.

To be honest, I find Stephen Hawking and Einstein more reliable sources for time travel than somebody on a forum saying \"Science is often wrong\".

No offence ;-)

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2005, 09:30:43 pm »
NAh! Time travel would never  happen! It may be only possible, if and only if, you consider finding a dimension that is perfect  example of how it was in the past and ripping the space-time-coniom metter {Way #2, becouse way number one would tear a passage from one world to another that co-exist creating this dimension}time travel...

Stopping time is also a passage to tattal doom...

Explanations?

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2005, 09:57:10 pm »
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Sigh... You\'d be surprised.
Tell me about the cases where science has been wrong.


Telekinesis, Ki, Psi, Telepathy, Empathy, Magick.

There are more, but I\'m thinking people are going to hate me after what I\'ve already said...
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2005, 10:04:20 pm »
It is more easy to travel into the future, as has already been said, but it is highly likely possible to travel into the past as well. There have been so many occurances in the past that are almost perfect descriptions of todays tech, that it either were another civilisation (yeah, aliens), or time travellers from our very own future / present time.

And I also think that \"magic\" and all other PSI stuff works, but on a perfectly scientific basis, and therefore isn\'t any more mysterious than is the light bulb. The only difference is that the underlying mechanics haven\'t been noticed and understood yet, therefore mainstream science doesn\'t accept it yet (why should it, really?). There will be someone who finds the flaws in the current models and equations, after there have been enough hints and discoveries of previously unknown effects. I\'s always been that way.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2005, 10:07:21 pm »
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Originally posted by Noctis Lamnia
Telekinesis, Ki, Psi, Telepathy, Empathy, Magick.

There are more, but I\'m thinking people are going to hate me after what I\'ve already said...

Oh, now that\'s funny :-P

1. Science has not been PROVEN wrong. Some people THINK science is wrong in these cases.

2. I believe what is said in this post:
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Originally posted by Seytra And I also think that \"magic\" and all other PSI stuff works, but on a perfectly scientific basis, and therefore isn\'t any more mysterious than is the light bulb. The only difference is that the underlying mechanics haven\'t been noticed and understood yet, therefore mainstream science doesn\'t accept it yet (why should it, really?). There will be someone who finds the flaws in the current models and equations, after there have been enough hints and discoveries of previously unknown effects. I\'s always been that way.


Telekinesis, magick (since you write it that way, I\'m assuming you believe in wicca... Read this: http://www.whywiccanssuck.com/) will eventually be explained by science.

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2005, 10:18:07 pm »
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Oh, now that\'s funny :-P

1. Science has not been PROVEN wrong. Some people THINK science is wrong in these cases.

Telekinesis, magick (since you write it that way, I\'m assuming you believe in wicca... Read this: http://www.whywiccanssuck.com/) will eventually be explained by science.


I\'m assuming you know nothing about the occult.  You don\'t need to have a religion to perform magick.  Hell, I used to be Christian... kinda lost my faith, but, meh.  I am NOT a wiccan.  Witches are not all Wiccans, Wiccans are not all Witches.  Wicca has been around for a looooooooong time, not just 1950, like that page says.

Right now, I don\'t wear a pentagram around my neck.  I will soon, however, and that guy\'s whole argument about the pentagram is stupid.  There are MANY meanings to the pentagram.  The one I believe in is God ruling over earth and hell.  Grimiors, Familiars... that guy should not joke about those things.

They are both real and incredibly powerful.  Familiars are usually provided by a spirit, however, and so a random animal isn\'t a Familiar.

I could go on and on about that page, but I don\'t feel like it.  Good argument against magick?  I think NOT.  I can rebuke every single thing that guy says.

EDIT:  Alright, ya know what?  I SERIOUSLY hate that page, and I\'m not even Wiccan!  That page goes against everything I stand for, and sounds like some angry Christian ranting.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2005, 10:21:15 pm by Noctis Lamnia »
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2005, 10:44:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Noctis Lamnia
Telekinesis, Ki, Psi, Telepathy, Empathy, Magick.

There are more, but I\'m thinking people are going to hate me after what I\'ve already said...

Oh, now that\'s funny :-P

1. Science has not been PROVEN wrong. Some people THINK science is wrong in these cases.



im not gonna deeper then this, i do love these kind of discussions. but im afraid my lack of great english is standing in my way..

anyway Science isn\'t saying that its fake. It just can\'t explain these things yet..and thats what science is all about: explainning the unexplained.

There are loads of scienists who are saying it does exists, but just didn\'t got it figured it out yet.


about the topictitle...YES, i think one day we will be able to timetravel. ALthough it does sounds great, im afraid this will also be the ending of our life. (as we all know it will effect the future).

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2005, 10:56:22 pm »
Science wrong?

I recall a well published mathmatical calculation showing it was impossible for a man to run a mile in less than 4 minutes......then Roger Bannister did it in 1954.  

In 1799, Anthropologist Charles White in \'An Account of the Regular Gradation in Man, and in Different Animals and Vegetables\' tracked \'higher\' and \'lower\' life forms in humanoids.  At the top was the \'Greek Ideal\', at the bottom.........Negroids.

Into the 18th century the \'unicorn\' was included in scientists classification of animals.  It was grouped alongside horses, zebra and donkeys etc.

Piltdown man took 40 plus years to be exposed as a hoax.

I loved the quote from Arzosah \"If science is incorrect, it\'s because there has been an error in the logic. The error is fixed, and the new idea is correct. \"

By this reasoning I have never ever in my life being wrong.  Ever.  :D

rofl - that cracks me up!!

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2005, 10:58:28 pm »
Oh and on time travel?

Wait and see.

(ps.  I didnt actually write this today.  I went back to yesterday and added this comment.  The funny thing is that none of you can disprove it!  :P )

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2005, 11:38:32 pm »
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Oh and on time travel?

Wait and see.

(ps.  I didnt actually write this today.  I went back to yesterday and added this comment.  The funny thing is that none of you can disprove it!  :P )


Yes, I can.  It says you posted it today.

^_^

Plus, I didn\'t really post this yesterday... or DID I!?!?

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2005, 12:25:48 am »
Time does not really exist, it is just like measuring distances, it is impossible to have a plank of wood -2 meters long. Time is a measurement used to make explaining things easyer and such, not even traveling faster than the speed of light makes you travel back in time as some may believe.
But I dont want to get too carried away with this topic.

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2005, 12:36:52 am »
^^^^^^^^^
I agree, time doesn\'t exist.

It isn\'t stable, either.
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