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Erinys

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Kran hearing
« on: January 09, 2005, 06:00:42 pm »
I read the races page once more during a loading screen in the game and I noticed this
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Without ears, they perceive sounds thanks to vibrations on their bodies.


But that would make them pretty weak since when you hit them you nearly knock them out with the immense vibration which they hear as sound.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2005, 06:13:16 pm »
Well I dont think so.

If ya hit them it is a really short vibration and then it stops.

and ya forget that Kran doesnt have their sense for orientation connected with hearing.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2005, 07:37:56 pm »
Have you ever tried hitting a piece of stone with a knife or a sword? The sword dulls pretty fast. :D I wonder if mining picks will get bonus dmg vs Kran...?

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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2005, 07:44:59 pm »
Blunt weapons have bonus vs kran, is a pickaxe a blunt weapon? Anyway I think it\'s weird that krans have high magic resistance, they should be near indestructable with melee weapons but weak against magic, besides since the brown way is control of earth the krans should be VERY weak against that way.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2005, 08:42:29 pm »
Well Kran should be easily aflicted by brown way yes.
But resistant to the others. Krans arent easily blown away by azure, dont burn easily (red) and dont fear the cold (blue).
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2005, 08:46:44 pm »
Well, I think the Kran would not be bothered by the vibrations caused by weapon or other impacts, because they\'d have a  filter for it. The filter would simply shut off or tune down vibrations that are too strong, just like these cheap tape recorders had. Alfo, they could process vibration strength at an reverse exponentioal rate, i.e., the dampening factor is decreased exponentially with the lowering of the amplitude of the vibration, resulting in no dampening for small vibrations and big dampening for lage ones. The complexity of this wouldn\'t be too big for the Kran brain, as it can be done by todays computers.

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2005, 08:55:37 pm »
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The complexity of this wouldn\'t be too big for the Kran brain, as it can be done by todays computers.

We are talking about Krans you know :P

And about the magic, you don\'t know how much rock can be damaged by cold or heat? And what about crystal and dark?
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2005, 09:53:12 pm »
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The complexity of this wouldn\'t be too big for the Kran brain, as it can be done by todays computers.

We are talking about Krans you know :P
We are? *stares surprisedly*

Well, I am, too. :P I like to evaluate the complexity of operations by the ability of todays computers to perform them. Our computers are really slow and incapable compared to a biological brain of even the smallest size. Therefore, if our computers can handle it, then it\'s easily possible for a biological brain to handle it in addition to it\'s other tasks.
Since the Kran brain needs to possess approximately the same amount of processing power as the biological brain of any other species, this means that it will also be able to easily handle the demand, regardless of how it actually works.
You see, I was talking about Kran just as much as you are. :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2005, 10:22:48 pm »
hmm Kran strong against weapons but weak against magic? but that doesn\'t really fit how most people seem to look at Kran. So how would we portray them then? Strong defence against both weapons and magic but they are slow and not very effective at attacking? Plus if we have more options they might have a harder time with charismatic related skills? I mean you can easily argue that there differences makes it harder for them to communicate and relate with other races.

Think that sounds as a workable portrait that also could fit a race in to the game as having the same amount of points in stats.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2005, 10:24:36 pm »
I know Seytra, the best computer in the world has about the IQ of an average worm.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2005, 10:26:15 pm »
krans are near indestructible and have can do melee combat pretty well, but have you even seen a rock cast magic? no, krans weakness is the use of magic, not to be confused with the resistance to magics
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2005, 10:35:34 pm »
Somewhat unrelated. Kran should also come with an aversion to mining. After all folks are hacking away at Kran\'s own \"flesh\" and uhm stone. I try to RP my Kran character this way, but it\'s darn hard given the economic situation around Hydlaa :).

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 11:22:24 pm »
Feran, I\'ve commented on this on the Kran reproduction thread (in case you didn\'t notice already).
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2005, 11:33:48 pm »
1. Computers have IQ 0
2. If Krans are silicon based, their brains are probably too... so
    You you think they are smarter in -270 degrees of celsius?

The problem about hearing via vibrations is a big one actualy..
Ever had someone scratch into your bones with a knife?
Well heck, I bet you\'d hear that too. And you\'re not even made that way.
Filters could fix some but the plethora of frequencies that you can make hitting a Kran\'s body with various tools is just too big.
So the Kran would get virtualy deaf when hit with something.

Oh and the fact that they hear via vibrations means they can hear other frequencies than humans...

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2005, 11:44:00 pm »
@ 1: so does the worm. :P
@ 2: Not unless their brains speed up processing. It\'s like overclocking: without increasing the \"clock\" frequency, the cooling doesn\'t do any good.

\"Filter\" was applied wrongly by me. I meant \"automatic gain control\", but with way smaller latency than is commonly used in audio equipment.
I agree that Kran would be able to hear other frequencies than humans. Also, they\'d be able to tell very much about the ground they\'re standing on just by observing the way vibrations travel through it. A Kran could also predict earthquakes if there were any, and to prospect resources that are hidden underground.
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