To the people of Yliakum- a moral speech

[seperot]

ladys and gents i have for you here the perfect tool...

This handy guide  will be all you need to know what to do when faced with a n00b screaching at the top of him lungs \" STUFF PLZ GIVE!!!\"

*bows*

[Mordaan]

Originally posted by confused
I have to disagree with you here Moogie. These people are not bad for society, all they doing is killing rats so they can begin starting a decent living at least as a miner (well not many careers are implimented yet). But before a pixaxe is SO expensive, needing 100 trias to get the basic model, that is having to kill 15 rats before one can get an axe. No wonder the people done in the dark sewers are very moody, especially when there is not enough rats to go around. I alone have spent more than 11 hours of real time looking for and killing rats, and still have 5 rats to go before I can get enough money to buy a pickaxe. Besides all the dying I do at the same time which wastes a lot of time.

Now with the world wipe, where all the characters are going to be erased and everyone is going to start off with nothing. The rats definitely is not going to be enough, thus instead of 11 hours it can easily take more than 20 hours this time to get 100 trias, because everyone is going to be in the sewers trying to kill rats. This event is surely going to make people very grumpy, especially for new players who do not know where to start, etc (the starting example of getting gold quest is silly, because you can\'t do it until you have a pickaxe. Instead the starting example should be go to the sewers and kill rats)

I agree with you confused.  How can we discourage new players with nothing from having a mentality of just killing things when the only way to get started is to go kill things?

How about letting the first quest have a reward of 100 tria?  (Setting some sort of flag to avoid making tria by just doing the same quest over and over).  The quest can involve rping and perhaps upon completion there is a reference to another quest with an even greater reward.  When newbies ask what to do first we can then say \"see at and ask \".  Therefore their first experience in game is more likely to be a quest involving rping than just going and bludgeoning rats with their fists in the sewers.  That won\'t stop the 1337ers completely but it will at least set the tone.

And yes, once the db wipe takes effect, I can see some serious overcrowding in the sewers.

[Seytra]

Originally posted by Mordaan
How about letting the first quest have a reward of 100 tria?  (Setting some sort of flag to avoid making tria by just doing the same quest over and over).  The quest can involve rping and perhaps upon completion there is a reference to another quest with an even greater reward.  When newbies ask what to do first we can then say \"see at and ask \".  Therefore their first experience in game is more likely to be a quest involving rping than just going and bludgeoning rats with their fists in the sewers.  That won\'t stop the 1337ers completely but it will at least set the tone.

Now this is something that should be expanded upon. It shouldn\'t yield 100 tria, because that would create inflation, but it might yield, say, 30 tria. However, we\'d need four of these quests in that case, but I think that after doing four quests, you\'re either bored to death and leave, or have caught on to the spirit. :tup:

I have already said on another thread that I think it wasn\'t a good idea to implement combat first. In fact, it should have been low on the list, because it attrats the exact kind of players we don\'t want.

And, as many have already said, I\'d like to clarify that I don\'t dislike newbies, but people who powerlevel or 1337. It does not matter if they\'re new or have been here for years. It\'s a fact that the plaza isn\'t a good place to get an impression of PS, because the powerlevellers and 1337ers hang out there most, and everyone else least.

Edit: I will be asking people who act stupid to RP, with me if they wish. Ithink instead of challenging to a duel there shoudl be challenging to RP. Seriously, this would have been nicer.

[confused]

4 unique quests (quests that can\'t be repeated) I think is the best way to encourage role play from the beginning. Maybe increase their reward instead of them having the same amount. Make the first one a short one, while the 4th one a longer one with more interaction with NPCs and covers greater distances.

Oh, decrease the value for the rats (though their size does indicate they make good money pouches), this will encourage the players to do the quests.

If they make it through the quests and still enjoying the game as either an adventurer or mechant where role play is an important component, they most likely stick around else they will leave.

But these non-combat rewarding quests may need to be implimented before the world wipe takes place. To prevent again a flood of  power players pouring into the world easily.

[Harkin]

Tthese quests would be good, but some people would still probably kill rats... so maybe the last quest gives people a key to the sewers?

[confused]

Originally posted by Harkin
Tthese quests would be good, but some people would still probably kill rats... so maybe the last quest gives people a key to the sewers?

Now that is an interesting idea. It would be similar to the dungeon, an useless place to go to unless you have at least a pickaxe.

A key could work, by delaying combat for a while. Maybe a corrosive poison fills the sewers that even eats into the Karn, unless they have the antidote/immunization from a quest that gives them immunity to this specific corrisive poisonous gas.

[Chewy gumbal]

Sorry about not roleplaying here but I feel that there should be a folow up post so no one has to read 5 pages just to find out there whitty coment was too late!

[Memnaur]

Originally posted by seperot
ladys and gents i have for you here the perfect tool...

This handy guide  will be all you need to know what to do when faced with a n00b screaching at the top of him lungs \" STUFF PLZ GIVE!!!\"

*bows*

Me thinks you have waaay too much time on your hands

[Moogie]

You know, I really did mean this to be a \"moral speech\", not really an ideas thread. The point of this was to gather some good friends and roleplayers here to show their strength in-character and let everyone know they\'re supporting the idea.

[Chewy gumbal]

Good idea, too bad it didn\'t work too well. I like to roleplay.

[Black_rose]

the quests could force players to go almost everywhere, give them a small weapon (knife) and teach them. then give them a test at the end

[Harkin]

Fellow citizens I must SPEAK again, today was a very sad day for our world, I have noticed a huge influece of \'1337s\' everywhere, the forums, what happened? I go away for a few hours to sleep and I wake up this morning to find this... this wreckage.

I believe a dark time is upon us, we must brace ourselves.


OCC: Bleh, what is going on? where did these people come from?

[Chewy gumbal]

I came from Orionaculathas forest on the continent of Sunsisar through a rift in the magical weave of these two worlds.

[Monketh]

I propose we make a list of IC people.  That might help.

I also believe someone mentioned the idea of being \"Challenged\" to RP.  That sounds cool and useful at the same time.

[Cirque]

*Cirque bars the doors of the tavern and shoots flaming arrows onto the roof and watches as the building is burned to the ground, then laughs at the irony.*

J/K, good quest idea.