Arcane Order-new server, new release, new thread

[Phinehas]

I must congratulate you, the story was quite interesting. I must say that the alchemist in it immediately reminded me of me.

[windwalker]

Selaros Anari (Cha0s_) has been promoted to Adept. Congratulations on passing the first stage of your training. Good luck with the more challenging tasks ahead!

The AO Bot is almost redone and will soon be a permament fixture in #arcaneorder and #planeshift on the irc.quakenet.org network.  He has undergone a name change so look for Tower_Imp if you want to talk to him. We added a few funnies to him so..... you might want to try !info Drunkard

[SnowWolf]

Here\'s a question for the public at large - what do mages in Yliakum act like? Is there a stereo type? (Different from the one you typically see in other MMORPGs?)

And another - do you have an suggestions for the AO as a guild in terms of RP and how we represent mages? (Be serious now! )

[TheRedMonk]

To answer the 2nd question first, I think you do a great job. As individuals, most of you seem to talk and act like wise men, and as a guild, you do a great job recruiting only members that seem fit for your guild (which is part of good RP)

For the first question, if there is a stereotype then you would probably be the ones creating it, being the main mage guild and all. The only thing you need to take into consideration is that mages are keepers of great wisdom and power, and act thereafter.

I\'m no pro on mages but I think you do a great job

[SnowWolf]

Thanks for the input Tybalt.

The reason I asked about stereotypes was for that very reason - since we are, in part, responsible for maintaining the idea of what a mage is, I\'d like to hear what other players think would be a good way to RP a mage - and not just any mage, a mage living in Yliakum - that is to say, a new way of looking at the standard RP Archetype.

In other words, if someone wants to break the mold, having us promote the idea could help.

[faldrok]

Stop being so damned snobbish!! Every mage you encounter in any MMORPG is snobbish for some reason. Whatever happened to the old, wise, white-haired guys? This new breed of mages is like 20-year-old punkers who think that they know-it-all already with limited studying. Now, this doesn\'t apply just to ArcaneOrder, but Phinehas as well.

Not that I\'m saying it shouldn\'t happen, but c\'mon...let\'s be realistic. When was the last time you have seen a 20-year-old know more than an 80-year-old mage who has studied by the books every day of his long life since he was 8...that just DOESN\'T happen.

So, it\'s nothing too major to most people, but it bugs the SHIT out of me. If you can back it up, more power to ya, but I have yet to see anything from these 20-year-olds that are worthy to be called \"Elite Mages.\"

[windwalker]

dunno about public opinon on this one but i for one have noticed our snob level going down a bit as of the last 2 months...  (blaims it on Lei and Laith).... also dunno if thats a good thing or a bad thing.... on second thought i\'ll take the dirrect opposite of whatever Faldrok said.... whatever he did say... (ubber laziness)

[Phinehas]

Originally posted by faldrok
Now, this doesn\'t apply just to ArcaneOrder, but Phinehas as well.

     

*ahem* Sorry, that was pretty funny. I admit that I do show too much knowledge in things I shouldn\'t know at so early an age, but this is due to a flaw in my RP, not my character, so don\'t blame him.

Ok, Snow to answer your question... I think there is a stereotype for mages in Yliakum, it\'s put in place by the AO and other important mages. I have no particular need to change it, nor can I necessarily describe it. I\'d also have to say that there\'s beginning to be a bit of a trend (set by me, I guess) of there being two sets of mages, the AO, and the others.

The only other thing I have to say on this topic is that I\'ve noticed an interesting thing about the AO, please don\'t take offense. Basically, I find that I like each of you individually, but when you\'re acting as a guild, there\'s something about your mentality and attitude that really... stinks. )

[druke]

as usual, that makes no sence, but w/e

i don\'t know ho anyone else is goign to roleplay themselves, but i personally like to RP

I admit i do not know it all, but i DO no more than you.

 
 :]
 

[Leiraine]

Originally posted by TheRedMonk
As individuals, most of you seem to talk and act like wise men

*gasps* Didn\'t expect that from you, Tybalt, not from you...

Originally posted by Windwalker
our snob level going down a bit as of the last 2 months... (blaims it on Lei and Laith)....

eek, Phinehas\'s Top Secret AO-Desnobizing Brigade has been discovered *starts to slowly move toward the exit*

[Annah]

Stop being so damned snobbish!! Every mage you encounter in any MMORPG is snobbish for some reason. Whatever happened to the old, wise, white-haired guys? This new breed of mages is like 20-year-old punkers who think that they know-it-all already with limited studying. Now, this doesn\'t apply just to ArcaneOrder, but Phinehas as well.

 Actually, those \"old, wise, white-haired guys\" where young some time in their past. Young, and maybe wise. No one is born old mate, and you have to start from somewhere.

 And Phin is actually rp-ing very good, and he\'s cool, so as druke and windy and uhmm ... why are you \"fighting\"?

 And lynx, you just can\'t reply to say \"x is right\" No no no ...

[Draklar]

I believe what Faldrok says (and what you obviously miss, Annah) is that knowledge and wisdom come with age. You just don\'t see young people showing knowledge and maturity of the elders, before the old people became wise, they probably went through years and years of apprenticeship themselves. No one is born old, but in same way no one is born wise.

[Annah]

Maybe I agree with you. But this wasn\'t the point. The thing is that \"these young wizards\" will some day became the people you mention. Faldrok also gave an example, Phinehas, but he must understand that maybe someday he\'ll become that \"old, wise, white-haired guy\". I just said you have to be young, to become old. Simple ...

 Also, maybe there are younger persons who are wise even from this age. Everything is possible, isn\'t this the perfect world we always wanted?

 And again, what Faldrok sees, is his own image of what means to be a wizard. Maybe others have their own. Again, isn\'t this the perfect world we always dreamed at, where we can create our own \"vision\" of it?

 Just let everyone have their own \"image\" of themselves, don\'t force them have another you see.

 Think a little ...

[TheRedMonk]

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Originally posted by TheRedMonk
As individuals, most of you seem to talk and act like wise men
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*gasps* Didn\'t expect that from you, Tybalt, not from you...

Hey hey, I said nothing bad at all. I didn\'t mean wise men as something negative. I meant that mages tend to know a lot and that most of you (hence how I used the words \"most of you\" in my first post too ) talk like you know a lot, which is completely correct. Of course there are exceptions

[faldrok]

Yes, Draklar understood what I was trying to get acrossed...good job.

Annah: Yes, I know you have to be young in order to someday be old, but when you roleplay a young character, don\'t act like an old character unless you roleplay a mentally insane person who doesn\'t know his age, but I doubt anyone has been previously roleplaying that part. With the books, I was talking in terms of Knowledge instead of Wisdom because I belive age/experiences make up that Wisdom, but Knowledge comes from studying. Let\'s say that 80-year-old mage has been studying 6 hours a day since he was 8. That is a total studying time of 157,680 hours. (I didn\'t calculate leap year or anything...) Now let\'s take the aspiring 20-year-old who has studied 14 hours a day since he was 5. That totals to 76,650 hours. Compare the two and you will notice that the 80-year-old has twice as much studying time which could, in part, make up his great deal of Knowledge. If this paced kept up, (and people were immortal) then yeah, the 20-year-old would catch up to, and pass, the 80-year-old.

In conclusion, I would like to sum all of this up. Yes, a 20-year-old mage can be wise/knowledgable/good at magic, but he, in no way, can act like an 80-year-old mage with all that knowledge under his belt. I was also going to say something else, but I went to the store when I was about halfway done with this post, so I forgot. If I remember, I will edit the post...

And yes, Lynx_Lupo can say \"X is right.\" as long as X = Faldrok.