l33tsp34k translation

[TheRedMonk]

It isn\'t a word either. Unless you think Ain\'t and Gonna are words too

Well they are actually words in Black English which is a pidgin language. Don\'t have to be a ghetto gangsta\' to talk that

[Kwip]

Originally posted by Gronomist
Unless you think Ain\'t and Gonna are words too, but then you\'re a ghetto gangsta, and not some fluffy white enki.

What?!? I use all three of these everyday, very often at that.  And if anyone looked at me they would not see a \'ghetto gangta\', unless their definition of it is a pale, hairy kid, who spends to much time inside.

If one visited the southern United States (at least the eastern part of it) one will hear these all the time.  You are actually  more likely actually to hear them out in the country rather than an urban area.

Now the southern speech was partially influenced by the black slave population that had been brought here.  But this happened long ago and while the various populations continue to have influence over each other these words have nothing to do with today\'s gangs or cities.

[Moogie]

Personally I think it\'s enough just to keep leetspeak out... not to try and make everyone talk in \"proper English\" with absolutely no slangwords like \'dunno\' or \'gonna\'. Sure, those words probably wern\'t around in medieval times, but come on... be reasonable here.

Seriously, how many people can honestly say they have a problem with these \'normal\' words enough to filter them??

[Draklar]

ain\'t and so on are american slang... and frankly, there was no america in medieval times.
\"Probably\" isn\'t the word when talking about existance of these things

Anyway, there was no such words as
isn\'t, I\'m, don\'t, we\'d
and so on... there was only
is not, I am, do not, we would,
as well as
\'twould, \'twas, \'tis, etc
I wonder if you want to remove these words as well

[Uyaem]

Thanks for this sarcasm Draklar

The idea to ban 1337 sounds okay, but don\'t take it too far. If every second line I say gets modified because of whatsoever I\'d go rampage.

Hello? This is supposed to be a game and not the preamble of a constitution! Where\'s the fun when every second line gets censored or changed? How will you be able to give your character some nifty dialect if you ban every word that Oxford Dictionary doesn\'t contain yet? (Yeah, yeah, noone actually said that...)
And why all that? Because it\'s \'unnatural\', doesn\'t fit into the evolutionary age of the game world. Bull-derdash. So what about the following: Having to wait 10 seconds before getting a reply from a conversation partner is unnatural, so I say if you can\'t type at least 60 words per minute you\'re out... for roleplaying\'s sake... :rolleyes:

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Pogopuschel
(Yeah, yeah, noone actually said that...)

btw: Yeah was also non-existant
>.>
<.<

*whips off*

[Darakus]

Gronomist -> There is no medieval english, what you are talking about is a a number of dialects that differed from region to region and would probably make those donna, ain\'t and so far look like upper class language.

If you refer to the writings you might have seen that date to those times you are talking about the few educated persons that could read and/or write at the time and not the common people that inhabited the land.

I agree with you about PS not being invaded with leatspeak and other common chat acronyms but you should really review your argumentation because stating that a language is not valid because not spoken into medieval times automaticaly bars you from any kind of ruling on language forms as no rules existed in those times to determine what was proper from what was not (vocabulary and orthograph wise) making dunno, ain\'t ... valid forms of speech

Of course I might have misunderstood you in which case you have my apologies.

Here under an extract of medieval english (from the year 1200 to 1400)

 Loke who that is most vertuous alway,
Prive and apert, and most entendeth ay
To do the gentil dedes that he can,
And take him for the gretest gentilman.
         
Canterbury Tales. The Wif of Bathes Tale. Line 6695

[Sabrewulf]

Ok this is getting out of hand.First with the name changes that didn\'t fit into the \"setting\".Now trying to make people speak proper English and removing any slang,abreviations and so forth.If you all really want to get technical,NONE of these rules apply.There was no such thing as medieval Europe,Old America or anything.The medieval language,setting and doesn\'t apply here.This is Yliakum.And I am REALLY getting tired of people trying to change,censor and everyhting else to fit a certain \"idea\" of how a game should be played.This dictatorial action that has been showing up is really starting to get out of hand.Who are you people to tell me how i should or should not act in a game? If i feel like saying slang or shortening to abbreviations its my call to do so,and i\'ll be damned if I am forced to have to change my patterns for someone elses idea of roleplay.If i feel like adding my own personal nuances to my character then i should have the freedom to do so.Don\'t tell me i have to change dialogue or act a certain way to fit your ideals.I will play as i see fit and as long as it isn\'t offensive,derogatory or any other reason the chat filters were made then let me play as i feel fit.If you want to eliminate ways that people talk then make it in your client.It isnt fair to have the developers make this type of thing and force people to use it because you don\'t like to read it.Fix it yourself.Oh and while we are at it since there isn\'t such as thing as Medieval England in our setting why don\'t we just lose the English completely and have the Developers  make  a complete language for us all to learn so we can be the same.

[Kiva]

Originally posted by Sabrewulf
Who are you people to tell me how i should or should not act in a game? If i feel like saying slang or shortening to abbreviations its my call to do so,and i\'ll be damned if I am forced to have to change my patterns for someone elses idea of roleplay. Etc.

The people who\'ve decided this is a good idea are the PS devs, and not just some random person with insane ideas. Besides, I know this is not europe around 1000 AC, but you have to keep in mind that the whole game is based on a medieval fantasy setting, and not on a Sci-fi NanoTech Futurama setting.

So, no more complaining, because it isn\'t for you to decide. This thread is simply for making a list of possible items for the translator, not arguing whether or not it\'s a good idea. If you don\'t like this thread - IGNORE it.

[Draklar]

Eh, did you just make sarcastic comment against yourself? 8o

Using english comes from the simple fact that no one will be stupid enough to come up with brand new language to use in fantasy setting. And since we consider english as the \"common language\", the old english applies here as well. Using old was always good etiquette for roleplayers since it was giving better medievalish feeling. Nothing more, nothing less. And I have no idea what you people are talking about. Did someone actually said anything about enforcing old english?

[Lhun Duum]

I just want to know, Can we use smiley ?

Because it\'s an international way to express emotions, feelings...

And if it\'s not allowed, why not try to list some common smiley and their english description ?

[Kwip]

Ummm, I did not reply because I wanted to condone the use of these words, I replied to Gronomist\'s comment.  I wanted it to be shown that using those \'words\' reflected a particlular patern of speech that is common in the south (US that is).

Now I would probably never use these words in written language unless it was in a dialog that I wanted to contain an accent.  The letters in these \'words\' were used to reflect the speech of those who use them while speaking.  These should not be used ingame as they would be reflecting an particular accent not used in the medival setting.

Originally posted by Draklar
Using english comes from the simple fact that no one will be stupid enough to come up with brand new language to use in fantasy setting.

I think you are forgetting someone.... Book writers will often use new languages to use in their setting, one in particular comes to mind, Tolkien.  Though I have yet to see a writer write there book in the new language

[Draklar]

Originally posted by Lhun Duum
I just want to know, Can we use smiley ?

I usually see people using smileys only after \"ooc:\", between [ ] etc.
/me rules in tavern

Kwip: I kept that in mind, but:
1) Tolkien\'s languages weren\'t complete ones.
2) Weren\'t used as \"common\" language.

[JanetReno]

Would add more, but I have class. Didnt read any one else\'s posts, so dont yell if i repeat:

omg                                    Ohh my god
0m6

newb                                  Newbie
narb
n3wbi3
n00b
noob
noobie
nub
n008
newbian
newbz
no0bz
noobzorz
n00bz0rz

1337                                  Elite
L337
L33T
IEET
Leet
Eleet
3l337
3L33T
31337
133t

h4xx                                     hacks/Hacker
h4x
h4x0r
h4xx0r
haxxor
haxx0rz
ha>h4><
hax
haxx
haxx0r

pr0n                              Pornography
pron

gh3y                              gay
ghey
g4y

teh                                  The

thar                                 There

eye                                 I
3y3

sux0rz                            Sucks
suxzor

roxzor                             Rocks
roxorz
r0x0r
r0x0rz

fux                                   F*ck
fuxx
fuxz0r


ph34r                              fear

n07
n0t                                 not

ub3r                               really good

j00                               You/Jew
joo
jew
ju
j3w
u
j00r

pwn                            Owned
own
0wn
ownage
pwnt
pwning
pwned
pwnge

winnar                     Winner

[Stydracos]

http://www.einados.com/translate.cfm

Above links to a l33t speak generator.

check out
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/L33t

Has some good ones like \"teh\", the (common mispeelings :p mispellings used instead of the real world).

http://www.planetquake.com/turkey/l33t.htm

Mentions dialects between groups and guides to read (think didn\'t read too much of any of the above)

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\"83L03 @|23 50|\\/|3 L3773|25 70 l33t\"
Below are some letters to leet.

Just remember there are meant to be different dialects to l33t speak but I doubt that matters much anymore.

A- @, 4, /-\\
B- 8, b
C- [, c
D- |>, d
E- 3, e
F- f
G- 9, g
H- |-|, h
I- 1, I, |
J- J
K- |<
L- L, [
M- |\\/|, /\\/\\
N- |\\|, n
O- 0
P- p
Q- q , kw
R- r, |2
S- z, s, 5
T- t, 7
U- OO, |_|
V- \\/, v
W- \\/\\/, w
X- x, ><
Y- j, J, \'/
Z- z


Some Common Words (see there are lots of others already said these, but what the hell ) :

teh - the

l337 ( |337, l33t), elite

ph34r, fear

pr0n, pornography

sploitz, exploits

0wned ( pwn, pwn3d, pwnz0r3d or pwnx0r3d ), completely dominated.

r00t, administrator privileges

m4d sk1llz, talent of one sort or another

n00b, newbie

ghey (gh3y, g4y ), gay ... in games used to describe a negative result

w00t or the smiley \\o/, \"woohoo!\" usually used to describe a positive result

hax0r, \"hacker\", where the symbols are used to draw rough approximations to letters ha><0|2 (x=>< and |@ = r) etc. Haxor is sometimes found as \"Haxxor\", as symbols for \"x\" are often doubled.

h4x (haxs), hacks\"

rox0rs, rocks

sux0rz, sucks

suxxor, something or more often someone undesirable

ub3r, ?ber / super

b4k4, Japanese word \"baka\", meaning idiots or stupidity


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