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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2005, 12:37:32 am »
I agree with quest idea except it should be extremely difficult.  Who ever heard of a weak guild leader and who in thier right minds would want one.

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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2005, 12:41:21 am »
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I agree with quest idea except it should be extremely difficult.  Who ever heard of a weak guild leader and who in thier right minds would want one.


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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2005, 12:42:25 am »
My thoughts on what I have read so far...

Fee on guild creation: Well Depending on th situation this can be a good or bad thing, with how hard it is to make money in this game a very high tria price isn\'t viable.

Minimum amount of time spent in game:  I have to be against this idea, I\'ve been in other games where some of the very good people only login twice a month or less.

Minimum Members: Due to time contraints it\'s probably difficult to get the minimum members all at once at the if guild creation, perhaps it can be a simple minimum like 3 people (different e-mails) And allow a guild to exist with less then that for about a week. In this method newbie guilds will die off gradually when the game checks that their time of not having enough members has passed. Though I suppose in this situation the counter has to be reset once they do get enough members.

Website needed: No comment... I think... the game has no way of telling whether or not your guild has a website.

Paying money to the government: I do not think that till will help RPing at all, more likely to encourage people to get money like mad. There might eventually or even already exist a guild which does charitable acts to help new players, such a guild will probably have very little loose funds to pay with.

A quest to get the permission to create a guild: I like this idea, but with the current state of NPC interaction some people might go insane before suceeding in making the quest. I do not know if the game support something similar, but instead of setting a flag or getting an item which gives you the right to make a guild, maybe a \'authorization\' code can be given to you by the game to give you permission to make the guild, of course this code would probably be a simple 4 character hash of your name(so it\'s character specific (saddly this means the guild founder must be the one to do the quest)), just to make sure people can\'t just infinitely loop the quest and then giving away the quest reward for making the guild.  So I am made to wonder, what type of quest will it be? Tell Harquinst that you would like to make a guild and then travel to the city at the other end of ojaveda where the weapons merchant there will give you, your name specific code?
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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2005, 06:44:54 pm »
Nice idea Clover. Although cost for each member should grow (not decrease) when guild grows.
That would be a kick in the rear for the \"Zerg Guilds\" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2005, 03:53:05 am »
I actually find myself agreeing with Kloe.  Someone may create a guild, but that doesn\'t mean it will be successful.  After so much time of Guild Inactivity the guildmaster will probably disband the guild if he/she can\'t get any members, or their guild isn\'t well known enough for anything to actually do anything.

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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2005, 06:40:11 pm »
really, men you are speaking about important things and YOU LL NEVER KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY THINK cause every ps player don\'t come here !!!

So I think everytime you take decisions without knowing what everybody are thinking like if you were some kind of king...

Im totally against fees Im totally against every form of idea which means forbidden something. You are allowed to do that you arent allowed to do that Why ? because its bad ! because You arent allowed! Eh man ! you are in fight club isn\'t it and when a guy dye you call him Robert Polson? or maybe have you some counsciousness of what you do ?

Cause everytime you take a right to a human, you make he think he dont have to think about what is fair! He just do what\'s allowed and even sometime he do the contrary just because he want to flame you...

Really stop trying to give us your idea. We won\'t think like you. WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT and I dont like to see I cant write on this forum the name of a famous linux program cause the name is a word you cant listen to. I dont like to see You are telling us it must be a fee cause there are too many guilds which one player... Really if you pay 75 trias for each player you have, so a one membered guild can exist there is no problem !

In fact the problem is that you want priviledges because You have money and the others no... In fact as you cant use some word because somebody forbid it to you, you tell you dont want to see that another player can use this word...

Really if you want to live in a totally restriccted world you\'ll ruin the community of ps first, then youll kill the fun of the game and finally you\'ll kill the moral in the heart of each human...

Money isn\'t a good solution... look at the real world... Money is killing us... to have an fee is really a bad solution but to pay each year... it\'s a huge lost of mind...

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« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2005, 06:46:42 pm »
Why does it even matter??Little kids should be able to feel important wenever they want..A fee (In trias) would just attract less people because part of this game that makes it fun is finding a group of friends and go off adventuring with them or have battles with other friends you have or new friends you made while playing planeshift...Either way i rely dont care if it cost money or not :P
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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2005, 07:10:54 pm »
fken: chill.

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Little kids should be able to feel important wenever they want..
No they shouldn\'t, that just encourages them to trolling.
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2005, 07:14:58 pm »
Why cant you just stop being a snob for once and let the babies ave there bottles.. its not like theyr going to team up and kill us because theyr so powerful..If they were good they wouldnt have this forum....But aside from this argument i agree with clovers idea of annual fee and the more players the less money so it encourages small guilds to build and large guilds to stay together...well thats kindof taken right out of clovers text but..you get the idea
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« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2005, 07:34:04 pm »
:rolleyes: at the first part of above post.

Now for the second:

Why reduction of prices is bad idea:

1) Gameplay: Monopoly. Encouraging of mass recruiting, aka Zerg Guilds.
If you don\'t know what that is, here\'s a quote:
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In addition, some guilds mass recruit players to be large enough to have an advantage, nicknamed zerg guild after the Zerg race in the popular real-time strategy game Starcraft that was only effective in large numbers. These groups can use their influence to affect gameplay by, for example, \"owning\" areas of the world, controlling the economy, or using tactics like zerging. Such forces discourage casual players.
Simply, no possibility of growing for the smaller guilds.

2) Roleplay: So the tax from guilds goes to government. And government is the one setting taxes. So let\'s say, people in government actually know how to earn money. What if they let it be as you say? Only already large guilds keep growing, government gets less and less money from each new member. If they would do it the other way around, there would be some moment when guild wouldn\'t be able to grow anymore, giving the smaller ones possibility to do so.
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« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2005, 08:18:53 pm »
I think to create a guild should be as now: absolutely free because only the time will decide if that Guild have success or not. If the char move his/her ass (sorry for this word) to improve it it\'s ok if not that Guild will die with him/her... And i think to have a Guild with only one member is like to drunk alone...

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« Reply #41 on: February 09, 2005, 12:07:21 am »
What if some Old fashion stile Role players want to come in and make a guild that has RP behind it such as they are a family or clan they get there 5 new players to come in as it and then they make there clan. I mean these \"Guilds\" if you want to get real technical you a Guild needs to do a specific job such as crafters guild or some thing like that that is what an actual guild is. In terms of gamming its just a group of friends I really don?t think there should be any restrictions on it for both RP and for the general fun of it.  What?s the big deal about having free guilds of any size any way? If a guild has no reputation than there not respected.

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« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2005, 12:38:56 am »
Guilds should stay the way they are. for people who train but don\'t have lots of money, then they cant be a part of their guild. kinda stupid to me...and before you all start to bash me or other \"leave it as it is\" people, why don\'t we ASK the guild leaders that post here if they want this to happen. We could vote on it and let it be. What do you say?
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2005, 10:26:10 pm »
What if 5 people fit really well together and do not fit with anyone else in the game?  What if these 5 people want to make a secret guild and keep it within just those 5?  Are these 5 people causing someone pain by starting a guild.  Did you wake up this morning and think: \"WOW!  Another guild this is annoying me so much I REALLY have to make a post about it!\"  Why limit someone else\'s fun, creativity, enjoyment, and gaming experience because something bothers YOU.  This is a game for everyone, not just for you.

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« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2005, 02:30:42 am »
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What if 5 people fit really well together and do not fit with anyone else in the game?  What if these 5 people want to make a secret guild and keep it within just those 5?  Are these 5 people causing someone pain by starting a guild.  Did you wake up this morning and think: \"WOW!  Another guild this is annoying me so much I REALLY have to make a post about it!\"  Why limit someone else\'s fun, creativity, enjoyment, and gaming experience because something bothers YOU.  This is a game for everyone, not just for you.

Just my opinion.


As Guild Master of Chaotic Warriors I have to say:

Hehe that what were Chaotic Warriors doing since 2003...:D Only now we came out from the shadows...

But hey, bad guilds just do not last...Another thing...I rather like paying money to the government...let\'s call it taxation...Player number requirements...errrrr nah...

Oh and nother thing (off-topic, a bit :D)

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Zerg race in the popular real-time strategy game Starcraft that was only effective in large numbers.


That ONLY is a bit over the top...Zerg do not always outnumber and you dont really need large numbers to win...:D


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