Role Playng in PS

[Neocuda]

My argument (and this game, I feel) stems from one word, imagination.

As an old RP player that comes from when that was all that it was, I feel that even though this game is a wonderful thing there are all too many without the imagination to fill in the gaps and insist that they be filled in for them.

I can very easily imagin that the guards did greet me at the gate and that they did tell me where the high points of the city are. I can also imagin that after a brutal brawl I was left for dead at the plaza and big lump on my head leaves me remembering nothing about where I am. I imagin that I would have to figure the whole place out all over again as well.

[Incenjucar]

I\'ve been dealing with these issues for my entire online career (It\'s been over 7 years now).  As such, I can honestly say that there\'s no point in getting your emotions up about it.  Relax.  Not relaxing makes things worse.

Taverns are a good place to start RP.  This is true.  They should not, however, be looked at as the ultimate center for it.  This becomes unrealistic, and results in nasty bouts of \"I RP here, I PK there, the two are not connected\".  Really drags things down.

Eventually, RP cliques will most likely occur.  This will both add to the RP, and make it more difficult to join.  It\'s where the \'guild\' mentality came from to begin with, along with the misuse of the term (Most \'guilds\' are \'clans\' or \'gangs\', but that\'s just part of the terminology).  There will be RP snobs.  They will drive newbie RPers away.  They will be annoying.  Hopefully the nature of the game will keep them from being a pain.

Eventually, some people will get bored of RPing, but have their friends around still, so may well try to get an OOC area.  Not a big deal, but it\'ll lead to some confusion for the poor newbies.

Eventually, people will sit around whining about how there\'s nothing to do and how nobody RPs, but will do absolutely nothing to change that.  If you suggest it, they will start helping, then get bored in a week, and go back to whining.  I\'ve seen this happen dozens of times.

Like I said, best just to relax.  Letting RP=Anxiety makes things worse.

Now, advice:

RP even when you don\'t have to.  It may seem odd, but if you\'re busy smacking rats around, -add dialogue-.  If someone happens to hear you saying \"Blasted rodent, why don\'t you die already!\" or the like, someone nearbye may react in some way.  I did this on EQ at one point, on one of those free trials, while smacking around skeletons, and a number of people were in -awe-, and started RPing all of the sudden, and were still RPing during the last week of my 30 day account.  It\'s amazing what a little effort can result in.

Don\'t get snooty.  Don\'t treat newbies like \'noobs\'.  You had to start somewhere too.  Treat them like equals, help them if you can, and hey, they may end up being better RPers than you.

Don\'t fake a start.  Do or do not do, there is no try.  If someone tries to start up an RP situation, make sure you KNOW you can keep your end of the bargain.  If you get people\'s hopes up, then dash them, often enough, they will LOSE that hope, and they\'ll stop trying, leaving everyone bored.

Don\'t pull the \'vet\' thing.  Vet\'s always end up being those people whining about the lack of RP and how much better it was in the good old days.  Always consider yourself a newbie, and you\'ll find you -act- like a newbie:  Full of wonder and interest and always seeking new opportunities.

Be careful of emotional attatchment.  Letting your emotions in to the game can lead to a lot of problems.  Just remember, it\'s a game, a -story-.  Unhealthy mindsets lead to an unhealthy game.

Have an alternative.  Have something you can do aside from the game in case you need to cool down or the like.  If you get too hooked on the game, if something goes bad it\'ll hit you way too hard, and can lead to the fun being lost for many people.

And relax.  Everyone just learn to relax.  Makes it all go much smoother.

[Nimfis Altmer]

Meh i dont rely care anymore bout rping and such

[Harkin]

Originally posted by Nimfis Altmer
Meh i dont rely care anymore bout rping and such

well then.. mr. spoily pants... you\'re missing all the fun

how can you not like saying: \"Sammy ma\' boy, aren\'t those nice pantaloons you\'re wearing? Or could it just be the black plague?\"

[Nimfis Altmer]

Im just tired maybe my opinion will change tomoro :/

[Zan]

Yanno I \'ve spent about 2 hours real time standing in the Tavern today. During that time I have been adressed by 3 people, technically only one since the other two I greeted first. Two of those three people were new people whom I helped out and the other one just started out there and disappeared soon after.

Roleplaying starts in the Tavern .. all good and well but I think Draklar is missing the actual issue here. There simply isn\'t enough roleplaying, not in the tavern and not anywhere .. most people go about doing their thing. Of course nobody can force people to RP but what Blubasso is saying according to me is just that there should be more RPing. Which I agree with but even more, I think social interractions in general are lacking.

Now I don\'t want to sound like I \'m complaining yet again .. I know this game is still taking babysteps and I also realize that once crafting and jobs have been implemented properly there will automatically be more interractions. Right now, partially because earning money goes slow and because we can\'t walk and talk at the same time, we talk less. And I have to say all I am doing is either trying to get some trias or walking somewhere.

Then if I do decide to stand still people will normally assume I \'m AFK and just pass me by, can\'t blame them for that.

I just think the message Blubasso wants to relay and in which I support him is that if everybody makes a little effort to talk/RP, the game could become much more interesting and more than just kill, work, walk.

[Kaseijin]

just wait till my comp gets fixed up....there\'ll be plenty of roleplaying then!
but honestly these few days i haven\'t played planeshift...and the thing that i missing isn\'t killing rats... it\'s walking around and talking to people while roleplaying...ocassional visit to the tavern for some carp fish and carrots...and then of to the mines....
man ...why did i have to break my laptop\'s screen.... serves me right i guess

[Kwip]

Wow Incenjucar, those comments really hit the mark.  They describe things almost perfectly.

And to everyone I say RP every thing, including lag, trolls and 1337ers, and of course (here input anyword such as foreigners, outlanders, etc. as long as it is not the much overused, abused, non-word \'newb\' or any of it\'s variations).

Now the problem is I believe is that you can not do much ingame while you \'talk\'.  This means you can either RP and stand still doing nothing or do actions.  Combining those can be very hard and is my only problem with the game.

Hopefully I will have time to be ingame as I have not been able to play in the past few weeks.  When I do there will surely be a mad bard there, acting like what else, a mad bard

[blubasso]

I really liked last three posts plus that one of Incenjucar

i wish to add something to last post
BE NATURAL!! Today i played a little with a dwarf who is a friend of mine, Gilibran (a really good dwarf i can say...), we were on the top of the big tower near North Gate and watched the view wastening there, we recognized the houses, the temple and a river and in my brain jumped naturally some ideas: now i know exactly were i was born,  and i talked Gili about my grandmother (i created her in that moment) who said me she saw the sea when she was a child. Shannath never seen it and now i know that i want to see it.
But i didn\'t prepare anything at all: all gone from my soul in the exact moment i said it.
This is what i talked about when i said \"be natural\".
This add deepness to a character and help the player to have a deep link with it and obviously play it at best (best i can, of course...)

Stefano

\"And relax. Everyone just learn to relax. Makes it all go much smoother. \"   Incenjucar: i\'m always relaxed when i play, even if i\'m on the middle of the fight. This is a game and i come here to have fun not to become angry: real life has this duty... :-)

[Incenjucar]

Heh, RPing lag (amoung other things)... I\'ve done my share of that.  The place I started my RPing at had it so bad that you\'d get multiple copies of your avatar popping up where you\'d walk.  I used to call the lag a \"Chronostorm\", with some complex explanation involving the over-use of magic by the populace, and the avatar clones \"Illusions\", blamed on the chronostorm causing photons to be caught in place, which merely required a solid physical presence to negate (you walk through them, they go puf).

[Tarachnul]

1)spawning in plaza=better than in front of tavern(race specific spawns would be cool tho :tup: )

 2) i spend alot of my time in the tavern unless theres noone there... in which case i go out and kill tefusangs all the while proclaiming how unfair it is that the rats/tefusangs are being run into extinction....then i head back to the tavern(gotta love that tavern what with all the rping going on and such   )

3) Nimfis find your opinion and STICK with it youve changed your mind like eight different times in this thread alone

4)read number 3

-Tarach