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Stray Cat

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« on: February 07, 2005, 06:09:16 pm »
Hello !
Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?

I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?

I think I need something like a recipe (perhaps in the \"mind\" slot ?).






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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2005, 10:34:55 pm »
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Hello !
Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?

I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?

I think I need something like a recipe (perhaps in the \"mind\" slot ?).


Or maybe some points in backsmith are required for use them. Or maybe we need to put some coal in it, but find coal is another busines.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2005, 10:39:43 pm »
They are currently in testing.  By the end of the week you should be able to smelt any ore into blocks.  Which will then be used in the creation of items.    By then npc merchants should sell the required equipmnet
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2005, 10:42:48 am »
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Or maybe some points in backsmith are required for use them. Or maybe we need to put some coal in it, but find coal is another busines.  :D


Ok, thanks, I know where coal and iron can be found :)
I think this will boost RP with specialized jobs :
- miners (spoiler ? : some races have an advantage)
- courier : bringing 10 ore iron+10 ore coal form the mine to the smelter
- smelter : as everyone (?) begins with blacksmith skill at 0, it will take a long time (and wasting a lot of ore) to train and practice
- weaponsmith and armorsmith (there are several skills)

... and perhaps thieves will try to pick some metal while cooling

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2005, 04:29:17 am »
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Does the ore smelting furnace work or it is there for \'cosmetic\' purpose ?

I asked the NPCs in the town and I got the response that not everybody is supposed to use it (he said because of local politics), but no directions to use.
I tried to feed it with ore and tried every buttons. Is it intended to produce metal bars or directly weapons ?



I\'m running around ojaveda with some ores in my inventory  :D
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2005, 10:36:10 am »
Are you having it like this?


Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze

Iron Ore = Iron

Iron Ore + Coal = Steel



Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.


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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2005, 09:28:08 pm »
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Are you having it like this?


Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze

Iron Ore = Iron

Iron Ore + Coal = Steel



Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.


Ah, a player of a particular Java game that starts with \'R\'?
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2005, 11:51:14 pm »
But are the smelting and crafting implemented or not?

I\'m ear that a book is needed for the furnace, but still not find a way to get it.

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2005, 01:01:44 am »
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Are you having it like this?


Copper ore + Tin Ore = Bronze

Iron Ore = Iron

Iron Ore + Coal = Steel



Something like that? By the way it HASE to be like that.


Ah, a player of a particular Java game that starts with \'R\'?


Lol.  Once a spoonscaper...  It seems impossible to escape it\'s influence...
Aaaannnyyywaaaay... Thanks for the info.  I was wondering about this myself.

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2005, 09:16:12 am »
Well even if he did play  \"The Scape\" those combinations are actualy true to nature and even other major games use those if they have combinations of metals being mixed.
But I can\'t say anythign against that Java game... I played it back when it was first started O_O
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2005, 09:31:47 am »
actualy the only one that is \"real\" is copper + tin and iron... steel is made by superheating and oxygenating iron... not by adding coal.. so it would need a super hot furnace
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2005, 10:55:06 am »
If you ignore the heatsource (coal or charcoal) only iron ore to iron is correct. For bronze you dont use the ores, but the metals as pure as you can get them. It may be possible to make bronze direct from the ores, but the bronze would be polluted with side products from the ores.
Steel is made by oxygenating the carbon in the iron.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2005, 12:02:27 pm »
Hmmm if the smelters dont work can i get my 3 gold back plz ??

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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2005, 04:07:58 pm »
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Hmmm if the smelters dont work can i get my 3 gold back plz ??


Yeah, and my 10000 chuncks of goldore ;) cause I just kept chucking em in.

No seriously I lost a chunk of goldore as well trying, but that\'s what rpg is about: first you try if something works, and then you ask around. (or the other way around if you are smart (I just like the hard way from time to time))

3 Goldore has taken you what?... about 10 minutes of playing time?
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2005, 02:02:32 am »
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actualy the only one that is \"real\" is copper + tin and iron... steel is made by superheating and oxygenating iron... not by adding coal.. so it would need a super hot furnace

Actually, steel is iron containing between (I think) about 0.1% and 2.0% carbon, which comes from coal.  (Really, one should use coke, which is coal with the impurities cooked out. Interestingly, \"mild steel\" is nearly-pure iron and \"wrought iron\" is really steel...) Iron smelting also uses limestone as a flux to draw out the impurities from the iron ore, and when the carbon content exceeds 2% you have cast iron, which any smith will tell you is impossible to forge.
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