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davo

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2005, 09:26:12 am »
i say its alll a lie.

people make up things and make people feel sorry so they go into those lame chain emails.  people like to see how far they get around the world ect...

did i even read it right ?
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2005, 10:24:48 am »
1.  This happened a long time ago (1993).
2.  They were released sometime around 2001.
3.  You have to be pretty messed up to torture someone to death at age 10, and presumably the judge would make decisions based on any sort of motivations, other influences, etc.   In short, given that decent psychological assessment has been conducted, keeping someone in jail from age 10 onwards seems pretty messed up too.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2005, 11:59:12 am »
blah!

so they get out free? whats to say someone doesnt figure who they are? i think once someone knows.... bam!

i don\'t see how 10 year olds can be so brutal, i mean they must be very screwed up to play with human life, sure when i was 10 i killed birds and snakes... and other no cute little animals :) but playing with human life?
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2005, 12:48:43 pm »
Human race, what can u expect from it? All! Even this... X(
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2005, 04:09:45 pm »
That if someone has face, two hands and two legs it doesn\'t means it is not
a monster. And monsters like that should be removed from the society
permanently. Second chance? If at 10 years old they has such instincts?
Even animals not kill when not needed.

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2005, 04:11:18 pm »
Theres no excuse for why the penalty shouldn\'t have been longer or why it shouldn\'t have been execution. People can say oh I don\'t believe in that kind of stuff, it isn\'t right blah blah blah...but really you can\'t make that decision until you yourself get to experience your child being dragged off and brutally slaughtered...then I think you have the right to make the decision to what happens to those who have done it. That goes for any other type of murder.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2005, 04:25:51 pm »
Iron Maiden for them...
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2005, 04:44:38 pm »
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Originally posted by davo
i say its alll a lie.

people make up things and make people feel sorry so they go into those lame chain emails.  people like to see how far they get around the world ect...

did i even read it right ?


lol, this was all over the british news for ages :P

Personally I think being locked up until you die is worse than being killed on the spot ;) I\'d rather die straight out than have to wait for 60 years in boredom to die.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2005, 04:49:42 pm »
Yes, but the State has to feed them - it means whole British society has to
pay for their cable TV.

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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2005, 06:21:18 pm »
Well I for one am strictly anti-death.

However I am not anti violence.

This story is truly disturbing and sad. It shows the worst of human kind. The sad fact that mankind could do something so horrible and revolting at such a young age of influence just amazes me and leaves me speechless. However I think it is best to be the bigger man and step down.

Death is something I think is highly underrated these days. We have no idea what awaits us over the edge of life. No one has come back and given us proof of what awaits us all inevitably. So only one thing is certain, and that is we don\'t come back. Ever.

What business we have on the plain of existance is our business. It should stay here. Killing someone for something they have done in this world is completely illogical to me. It\'s as logical to me to tell someone to dive off a cliff on a foggy night, after that person has stole a candy bar.

But enough of my preaching. I think that they should remain anonymous. If they aren\'t it will lead to nothing but more killing. They were wrong for what they have done, but they should not serve anything more or less than complete banishment. The government should keep a keen eye on these men, but the rest of society has no right to take justice into their own hands and slaughter 2 corrupt men for something they have done as children.

So keep these men out of sight and out of mind. We can only prevent more death, not invoke it by taking rogue justice.
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2005, 07:40:31 pm »
Reminds me of a case in England or USA not sure, where two boys also around 10 or so dragged of a boy younger than them (can\'t remember his age) and raped him, next day they were playing on the same street, the court did nothing... although they moved later on.

But really... two kids at the age of 10? very disturbing indeed, and well I believe in the saying \"an eye for an eye\" as some mentioned, yet I for one would rather see them rot in jail... as death penalty is just a few moment and then you\'re death...

*funny note, in Denmark a lifetime is 16 years. Which is also the highest penalty you can get (this is in my knowledge only though)...

Also we had a case about one called Peter Lundin (Danish-American) who killed his wife and his two small sons, he got 16 years... I think they should just have killed him :rolleyes:
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2005, 07:56:25 pm »
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Theres no excuse for why the penalty shouldn\'t have been longer or why it shouldn\'t have been execution. People can say oh I don\'t believe in that kind of stuff, it isn\'t right blah blah blah...but really you can\'t make that decision until you yourself get to experience your child being dragged off and brutally slaughtered...then I think you have the right to make the decision to what happens to those who have done it. That goes for any other type of murder.


Do not forget these are just 10 year old boys here... 10 is too young to die for a crime.  And if they dont understand the magnitude of what they did... let them rot in a prison cell for a good amount of time.

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But really... two kids at the age of 10? very disturbing indeed, and well I believe in the saying \"an eye for an eye\" as some mentioned, yet I for one would rather see them rot in jail... as death penalty is just a few moment and then you\'re death...


Please tell me you are IC when you say you believe in a eye for an eye.  If you are OOC then I have to ask how closed minded are you?  I hate to even see that... Look what the people who believe in that have done throughout history, they just kill because it was the right thing to do... Are you fanatical or just a crazy Christian :).
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2005, 08:43:24 pm »
put them in the centre of a football pitch with no way out surrounded by the hundreds of thousands of parents who have lost their children through rape and murder.

letting them die by standard death penalty is not enough, they should have been teared limb from limb alive.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2005, 09:01:24 pm »
Kixie, it is not about morality of killing etc. it is about social security, if some
person has such instincts it is not a human, it is not even an animal, it is
very dangerous monster what should be removed from the society ASAP to
not poison it anymore. In nature everything ill and weak is removed, we
are human, we can take care about ill and weak members of our society
but we can\'t take care of such monsters, we can\'t feed them, give them
any priviledges and what is most important -  we can\'t let them to be alive
or free. Punishment for such crime such be an example and warning for
other who even if has such instincts to never let them out.

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2005, 09:05:51 pm »
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Are you fanatical or just a crazy Christian

Neither, I just have no compassion for other people who does things like this, no matter what age or gender. (little note, I hate all kinds of religion, and I think people who worships god or other diety\'s, are idiots who believes everything that they hear).

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If you are OOC then I have to ask how closed minded are you?

I am OOC, and let us just say that I think differently than others ;), you decide whether that is close minded or not :)
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