The PlaneShift Times - Coming Soon!

[Incenjucar]

\"Tight\" is transient, just like \"The Bomb\".

However, \"Sweet\", which to my knowledge is relatively new in modern usage, is here to stay, and \"Dude\" and \"Cool\" will never die.  Groovy will always have its place, as well, but as a \'special use\' word.  Also, \"Rock\" is coming back in to use as \"Dude!  Rock!\"

I, however, will continue trying to push \"Blazin\'\" and \"Nova\" on the public.  Use my spicy-hot words, or to ashes with you!

[Platyna]

I really see no reason to argue. Ok, few persons, mainly moderators told us
that this idea is not original and we should give up. There are many not
original but nice ideas. Most of us are simple people and we do like simple
and not original things to bring some glee in our minds and our souls.
Adyna is not a person that can be discouraged by some criticism,
constructive or not (personally I think it wasn\'t constructive) especially
that we already have 60 or so subscribers awaiting the first issue. Anyway
everyone has a right to have an opinion and I don\'t think so if any
arguments can change someone else opinion. So if I may suggest
something - lets just be positively oriented on this idea and wait for the
results in peace. :-) Even Talad told it is a good idea, so if it is good idea
why not give it a try? ;-)

Regards.

[Incenjucar]

While I respect her right to do whatever the heck she wants, I don\'t think its a good or useful idea.  Thus, I can shrug, and not hurl insults, but I cannot honestly be supportive of positive.

I do, however, think a town crier would be wonderful.  Absolutely wonderful.  I\'d donate a tefusang tooth to the bugger for every bit of news, even.

Newspaper?  When we have no reason to believe there\'s a printing press or a \"Copy\" spell yet? And especially one only available via email, instead of in-game?  Nuh uh.  Even if it was well done and vastly interesting, it would feel against RP to so much as glance at it, and I\'m here for the RP.

[Platyna]

Well, the gazette is considered rather as Community News, and it is same
medieval and role playing like this webforum. So maybe we will close
forums because we are here talking about PS, and there were no forums
in medieval times and this forum is on the internet not in game?
It is kinda weak argument, really. PS Times is besides the game for
purpose, because if it would be in game such things like devs corner
would be absolutely OOC and would ruin RPing.

Johann Gutenberg
Inventor of printing; born about 1400; died 1467 or 1468

And they say that middle ages are betwen the fifth to the fifteenth century.
Mmm we will argue about 100 years plus or minus in game? :-/

Regards.

[Draklar]

Newspaper staying outside of game doesn\'t bug me (besides the bard bit), but if someone talks about gathering informations for newspaper ingame, that is something else.

Oh, and invention of printing press is one of events ending the medieval times. If you look into history. Also 15th century is 1401 - 1500 so that would be right.

[buddha]

But are we really re-creating the Middle Ages?  I think I can find some counter-examples to that...

If you are going to accept no slavery, then why not accept that almost everyone can read?  And if you accept that almost everyone can read, why not accept that there will be something to read?

I don\'t think an in-game, in-character paper about the events of the town is hurtful to RP at all.  We just assume we have a literate society, the same way we assume we are all speaking the same language and not burning witches.  Heck, the same way we assume that we can go to the magic store and buy glyphs without rampaging peasants burning it down.

Is is the literacy part that bugs people?  I\'m not sure why people would object to this.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by buddha
I\'m not sure why people would object to this.

You have to realize that this is Draklar and anything that doesn\'t fit on all those webpages he reads is evil and wrong.  The arguments just won\'t work.

[Draklar]

The point is with medieval technology it was impossible to make newspaper.
I assume we\'ll have fully developed plate armour in PS, so it must be a 15th century setting. About the time when printing press was created, still printing is typical for the next period (which had completely different culture).

Depends if you think bringing later technology and culture to medieval setting is good for roleplaying of life in medieval times or not.

Edit: Too bad I don\'t object to this, Kiern... peanut

[Platyna]

Of course it was possible to make a news paper, especially in the end when Gutenberg invented print, but no one wanted to be accussed for
heresy and be cut.

Regards.

[Kiern]

Originally posted by Draklar
But yeah, I guess you\'re right. People coming to taverns in order to hear rumors from local bards or barkeeps is a bad idea... Newspaper will certainly give more medieval fantasy feeling. So good luck with it.

*Walks off to create Burger Lord (R) because this is a land of fantasy.*


Back in the middle ages books could be seen only in possession of rich people. That\'s because there were no machines to copy the form, everything was copied by hand. In other words books were expensive. That might be a reason why there weren\'t any newspapers and most of all why they wouldn\'t be free. Spreading news was bards\' job.

^eh?

Don\'t object?  Damn you, stop being confusing.  It\'s not easy on me...snap judgements and all.

Seriously though, the weather is nice.

[Incenjucar]

If its a solely OOC thing, fine and dandy.  \"Gron now has the highest strength, w00t!\" and so forth, no big deal.

Its shoving it IC that makes it worrisome.

As for the middle ages, the general cut off date is 1400; they use Chaucer\'s death that year as a marker.

And as for the boards... they\'re for mechnical discussion for the most part.  I, personally, avoid the RP board because it causes logistical problems.

Also, the \"this isn\'t really the middle ages!\" argument, So?  Doesn\'t mean its automatically MORE advanced in certain aspects.  It could be LESS advanced in several aspects, in fact.  Up to the devs.  Personally, I much prefer the flavor of scribes to printing presses, and sword over flintlocks.

[Draklar]

Platyna: I already answered that
There were three events ending the medieval times. Discovery of printing press, discovery of america.... and something else
Printing press becomes pretty much a symbol of ending of medieval times. And imagining Legolas reading a newspaper is just *shudders*

Kiern:

Is is the literacy part that bugs people? I\'m not sure why people would object to this.

I do not ob-ject... to the li-te-ra-cy... part.
There, I typed it slow so you would understand and not get confused this time

Originally posted by Incenjucar
Personally, I much prefer the flavor of scribes to printing presses, and sword over flintlocks.

Yeah, that\'s exactly my point. And like I said, it doesn\'t bug me as long as it stays ooc.

[Jazeera]

Printing press becomes pretty much a symbol of ending of medieval times. And imagining Legolas reading a newspaper is just *shudders*

lol, I thought PS was going to be original... so stop comparing it to LOTR and the real world...

and Draklar, who ever said that PS was going to be like the medieval times? there is no medieval times in PS it\'s a game not the real world... you don\'t see America in it do you? so stop comparing it to the medieval times :rolleyes:  

Incenjucar you ignore the RP board, then just ignore the papers, noone ever forced you to read it, did they?

[Draklar]

Well it\'s good that you read all posts, Jazeera. Because if you wouldn\'t, you could miss the post where I quote Atomic Blue aim:

To encourage the development of a large community of roleplayers that will recreate the beauty and complexity of a virtual medieval world.

But luckily you did read it and didn\'t make false assumption that Yliakum isn\'t a medieval world. Not to mention that just the swords, armour, primitive way of traveling would tell that this is medieval fantasy setting. It\'s good that you checked the setting and everything. Good job!

[Jazeera]

they never said that it should be the medieval world from RL did they?
omg!! but there were no elves, dwarfs or enkidukais in the medieval world of RL 8o... you really cannot compare PS to the medieval world of RL Drak... -_-
So as I said stop comparing PS to the medieval world...  even more important stop comparing it to RL!

btw. alright I missed that post so what? we all makes mistakes... still holding grudges eh? word of advice Drak move on and grow up, stop living in the past you might miss the present :rolleyes: