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Mephisto

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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2002, 03:29:28 pm »
Well i\'m a communist so I kinda agree with those big fishes just hauling in the money, not all business owners just sits at home and have people doing everything for them though, and people like that are the people who deservers respect.

I agree half with both parts here.
I myself have understood that the people developing software deserves to earn some money doing it.
But for people without any money at all, it\'s not so easy, I have what I need, but If I didn\'t, then maybe I would download almost everything from the internet, I do not know, but maybe.

I understand that it is not easy living without any extra money at all, so you can\'t affoard anything of fun.
Offcourse it is easy for someone with money saying: \"Hey go buy the stuff you need\"
But if you do not make enough money at your job or if your simply not old enough, it\'s not so easy.
And when you have the opportunity to get something for free, without taking anything physical, that\'s fun, and you\'ve never had the money to get anything like this before, you seize the day.

I guess this is my last post in this argument as it\'s gone too far already.
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« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2002, 07:03:06 pm »
The only thing I disagree with in this thread is the hypocrisy.

Piracy is stealing.  It\'s illegal.  What is illegal isn\'t up to anyone here to define, but up to our respective governments and this is what they all say.  If we were talking about a DVD movie, it would be no different.  It has nothing to do with whether you can afford it, or whether you agree or disagree with someone\'s policies.

Software piracy is rampant and has been since computers were invented.  People coming up with lame self-serving excuses why those rules don\'t apply to them is also nothing new.

People should just admit they are stealing and move on.  There\'s no point in discussing it, because we\'re not going to legalize piracy and we\'re not going to prevent people such as yourselves from continuing to do it.  No other field I can think of exists where the criminals think they have higher morals than the people they steal from.  What a laugh.

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« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2002, 11:12:26 pm »
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*ANARCHY IS THE WAY* :->


no...anarchy is not THE way. it is YOUR way. remember that :P
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excuse me mephisto
« Reply #63 on: August 21, 2002, 11:53:29 pm »
Excuse me can you please download AIm mephistO? I would like to talk to you in some sort of direct-message software.  8)
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« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2002, 04:32:53 am »
tcd,

You have been told repeatedly  to PM (private message) people instead of talking to them directly on the board here.

To do this, click the little \"PM\" button at the bottom of any message posted by the person you want to write.

I am not warning you again.

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« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2002, 04:34:35 am »
Yes sir....  :(
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« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2002, 05:17:38 am »
u people can only get so far with piracy, ever wonder why big companies with big plans get shut down cuz they have to go declare bankrupcy suddenly? it isnt because no one wanted the product, its cuz they wanted it so bad and they knew a cheap way to get it, ignoring the fact taht it takes years to program that, learning to program is hard enough, and then designing massive software is a well earned 3000 dollars. thru pain in sweat, they earned it, learn to respect that, or someday u might be haunted by what u once did....(you work for a company designing the next big OS, they have completed the first version of it, an ultimate system, then u announce that u r preparing to design a second one, but guess wat, the next week you say good bye company because sales have been to low, guess why the sales were so low huh?)
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« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2002, 01:21:53 pm »
I thank that thread was over. I see now that I was wrong. But I think that will be my last post on the subject, because it does lead nowhere anyway.

first, personnal question: Aelya, what is YOUR way?
Have you got any at least? Have you thinked on that?
Because your attitude reminds me the US politics about the world: all foreigners are subhumans that obey and are there to satisfy your high life pretensions. It doesn\'t matter if they die.

Now, all USians will insult me. It is just an exageration of reality, that is not what I really think :-> Exagerations are good to make people react.

Vengeance, all I said was not limited to software piracy. It was about all fields of life. Laws are not necessary good. They are there because humans tend often to excess. They are just the simplier way. Not the best.
Last month I have earned 500? (~$500) for 4 entire weeks of work. How long will it take to me for buying some soft? I have to choose between a comp or some soft to put on it... that\'s not a choose.
Cyo, what company are you talking about? anyway, it doesn\'t matter. I know it is a problem, but just imagine piracy completely disappear. Do you think much more copies would be sold? Some more, but hardly enough to make a company survive, I think. Software is a domain where the production is so big that the market can not absorb it. Yes, soft market is enormous. But almost every computer have the same soft in it. The major production is from nerds to nerds.
I am studiing computer sciences. So I will probably have lots of job problems tomorrow. I am not talking about people I don\'t know. But I try to be realistic.
Now, I\'ll shut up :-X
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« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2002, 03:40:33 pm »
Some laws are not exactly good, you have to note 400 years ago pretty much all of them weren\'t . eg slavery etc etc...
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« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2002, 11:04:34 pm »
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I thank that thread was over. I see now that I was wrong. But I think that will be my last post on the subject, because it does lead nowhere anyway.

first, personnal question: Aelya, what is YOUR way?
Have you got any at least? Have you thinked on that?
Because your attitude reminds me the US politics about the world: all foreigners are subhumans that obey and are there to satisfy your high life pretensions. It doesn\'t matter if they die.



your right that is a HUGE exageration. tell me, if the US cared so little about foreigners why do you think we have so many of them? foreigners are a big part of the US and they are not so degraded as your stereotype claims them to be.

and no i have no specific \"way\". i play things by ear.
There are things i care about and things i dont. whether people die or not happen to be one of the things i care about.
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« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2002, 01:38:56 am »
man aelya you are really messed up. aome one should teach you the diference between saving money and being a lousy thief. (this is a refference to one of your old posts in case you are confused about that too)
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« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2002, 02:00:56 am »
they may be different but they are connected. you save the most money by being a lousy thief. yep im a huge cheapass and im proud of it. you dont like it fine. hate me for all i care. but you will have to deal with it.
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« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2002, 08:44:39 am »
What have I created ^^... Sheesh.

Then again I dont retrack my initial post, Just find it odd and mildly ammusing how people get so heated over things like this. (And just to add on my own position, I have bought every game Ive ever played, so I have contributed to the industry) I personaly believe in the GPL and GNU movement

http://www.nevrax.org/docs/gpl.php3 theres an example of the idea. Then again the buisness warlords of companys of microsoft and such would never become GNU.
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« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2002, 03:20:19 am »
Well that is the planeshift liscense, so...
Aeyla, get off the forums!
jk, lol, haha  :D
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« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2002, 03:53:35 am »
Tcd, the big kids are having a conversation here ok?
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