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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2005, 08:04:08 pm »
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I wouldnt care if they got 400 trias for cheating, because everyone could get them by playing the game, but if your characters are erased what good are you supposed to get by playing the game, isnt it easier for cheaters to start the cheating for clean board?


More like 40,000 tria, or 400,000 tria.

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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2005, 03:39:59 am »
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CB will be updated to SB in steps, not at all like MB to CB.

Obviously, one more time was needed at least for me  :D

Well, it\'s good to know that we will have oportunities to explore at each step to look for added, changed and removed stuffs. Waiting in a stable but never changing MB seemed a bit long to many people.

For those who worry about losing trias, I wonder what they planed to do with them. If it is too count them to fall asleep, sheeps are more effective. Don\'t hesitate to spend your trias...Would\'t it be nice to know IRL that the bank will forget everything in a few weeks?
No database wipe will be able to remove the friendships between players.
Think about the tales you\'ll have to tell your childrens by the fireplace in SB.
Lorye and Nosredna are getting married soon. It\'s not a database that will end their vows.


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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2005, 08:23:12 am »
I say take advantage of this time. Gamble all your trias away, buy things you dont need, drop items on the streets, etc.  :D
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2005, 12:18:35 am »
The wipe will be a blessing to me, maybe i will start playing again...
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2005, 01:05:50 am »
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I wouldnt care if they got 400 trias for cheating, because everyone could get them by playing the game, but if your characters are erased what good are you supposed to get by playing the game, isnt it easier for cheaters to start the cheating for clean board?


More like 40,000 tria, or 400,000 tria.



More than that. :) Due to the falka bug a while back, over 30 characters had more than 8 million circles. That\'s... god knows how many tria. Then of course there was at least another 30 characters after that with more than 5 million circles...

We purged them, of course. But the thing is, we obviously couldn\'t tell exactly who else had unfairly gotten their money, so not all cheaters were purged, nor could they ever be, unless we wipe the database and let everyone start fresh. This is just another small reason why the wipe is necessary for a level playing field, a balanced economy, and a cheater-free community.

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2005, 01:35:54 am »
The Sheeples vote in favor of a weekly wipe for a time. (exp & \'stuff\', not characters.) This will give people more time to think of the \'RP\' in \'MMORPG\'. Also, it will chase off the power levelers and expose the glitches \'cheaters\' use. However, I think people should have the choice to start out as a stronger character, not mighty, just stronger.

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2005, 01:38:23 am »
We don\'t want to do weekly wipes. The aim is to do as few as possible, only when we really need to do it.

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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2005, 02:05:07 am »
Why was I not told of this money bug?!?! I was always poor! Hehe. I did make 12000 off the falka quest, but that is the reward from it normally.

Anyway, I would hate it if my characters where deleted, My new two that is, my old buggy ones I do not care about. Sorry if this was already mentioned or told, but will they do a transfer thing like they did before?

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2005, 06:28:56 am »
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Why was I not told of this money bug?!?! I was always poor! Hehe. I did make 12000 off the falka quest, but that is the reward from it normally.

Anyway, I would hate it if my characters where deleted, My new two that is, my old buggy ones I do not care about. Sorry if this was already mentioned or told, but will they do a transfer thing like they did before?


The wipe will be a full wipe. NOTHING will be transfered. Otherwise there is no point in doing the wipe. The only transfer there will be is the same transfer we had when going from MB to CB. i.e. you\'ll be able to migrate your MB char again.

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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2005, 07:37:46 pm »
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Why was I not told of this money bug?!?! I was always poor! Hehe. I did make 12000 off the falka quest, but that is the reward from it normally.

Was that a bug that it was 50 circles instead of 50 tria?  Or was it just changed later because it was deemed too high a payout?  Or is it back to 50 circles now?  *looks around*
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2005, 08:41:24 pm »
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The only transfer there will be is the same transfer we had when going from MB to CB. i.e. you\'ll be able to migrate your MB char again.

The transfer from MB to CB has already been bad enough IMNSHO, and the only reason why I didn\'t relentlessly oppose it is the fact that it wasn\'t clearly stated that there would be no transfer. This has, luckily, been fixed with the CB beta test, and therefore there cannot be any doubt this time.

As for levelling and grinding: why should anyone be rewarded for this, while PS is about RP, not about grinding and levelling? Therefore, grinding and levelling is what takes secondary priority in PS, and should be treated accordingly: it is dispensable.

As I expected, I have been levelling very mildly, and have done a lot of RP and exploration instead, which has been more rewarding. I don\'t mind my money and levels getting wiped beacuse the wipe has very good reasons.

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2005, 12:00:11 am »
i have a suggestion for the devs.  in a post i read oh so long ago, a dev commented that a particular player had been playing for a week, and spent, on average, something like 10 hours a day on planeshift.  i believe the dev said something like \"some commitment!\"

anyway, this implies that the devs have some way of logging how long characters have been actively played.  not how long since they\'ve been created, but how much time a player has actually spent in the world.

i suggest that this could be used when migrating players to give them a bonus.  characters that have been played longer would start with PP\'s and/or trias to give them a little kick start.  not a whole lot, but just something to get them on their feet.

just a suggestion, and of course, it may be impossible.

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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2005, 03:59:34 am »
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i have a suggestion for the devs.  in a post i read oh so long ago, a dev commented that a particular player had been playing for a week, and spent, on average, something like 10 hours a day on planeshift.  i believe the dev said something like \"some commitment!\"

anyway, this implies that the devs have some way of logging how long characters have been actively played.  not how long since they\'ve been created, but how much time a player has actually spent in the world.

i suggest that this could be used when migrating players to give them a bonus.  characters that have been played longer would start with PP\'s and/or trias to give them a little kick start.  not a whole lot, but just something to get them on their feet.

just a suggestion, and of course, it may be impossible.


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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2005, 07:50:48 am »
Jorrit said it best \"Alpha Test\", nothing else needs to be explained or said in the matter. If you can\'t accept it feel free not to share with us :P
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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2005, 10:22:59 am »
will you be wiping dead player accounts... i mean 53059 accounts and only 42400... if we take into account that most player at average have 2 characters..that means there are aroun 22000 active players leaving 31000 accounts without characters...or rather inactive people....who registered but did nothing.
Maybe it is not such a big deal...but i always found it weird that there are so many more accounts then characters.
i actually play planeshift