Author Topic: Disheartening to say the least.  (Read 4364 times)

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Disheartening to say the least.
« on: March 28, 2005, 12:13:30 am »
I don\'t feel especially big of a person to post this here. But frankly after viewing a certain video that a close friend informed me of, I didn\'t think it possible to not inform people on the subject. I don\'t know much about it, persay, but I can tell you after viewing this I must know something that others do not. If everyone knew what happened in this video, it would cease to exist quite frankly. I don\'t think you can really watch it and not react the way I am right now, or as many other people have now.

I have to ask the moderators do not take this down. I can see their reasons too, but I have to argue in defense that everyone needs to either see this, or be told about what exactly is done in this video. The acts you will see are brutal. Frightening. Extremely graphic, even those people I know to have very, very tough stomach\'s have seen this and informed me they needed to go puke. I really don\'t WANT to show this. But like I said, unless everyone knows what happens, it isn\'t going to get done.

The acts are amazingly cruel, and although it has brought many people to tears, or extreme vomitting, it doesn\'t have a human being as a victim. The subject is as you may have already picked up, animal cruelty. Fur farms in particular. This video just. I don\'t ever know how to put it into words. It is frankly the most horrifying thing I have ever viewed, and is 100% real. The things you will see cannot be faked with any sort of CG effect, or physical prop.

I ask you to only view this if your 18 or older. I am not older than 18 and have viewed this, but I don\'t feel very good knowing that those who are not ready to see this are viewing this, not ready for the images they are about to view.  Like I said before, this is extremely graphic. Please do not complain to my inbox, and private messages if you find this revolting. Simply do what I am going to do, and try and help peta, or find another way of stoping this insanity.

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 01:26:16 am »
Well being a green that eats me up.. *hands out AK\'s for everybody* lets kick some ass :tdown: :evil:

Am i a borderline eco-terrorist?.. why yes thanks for asking :P

did it make me sick or sad? nope just angry i ever find onna those places i am so handing out tickets to the Pain* Train X(

*ful death

See how they like getting skinned *humph*
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 01:59:53 am »
Those poor animals... Thats horrable!

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 02:30:48 am »
I had to stop watching half-way through. Poor creatures, it wouldnt be so bad if they actually killed them first.

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2005, 02:55:15 am »
Yea, I didn\'t watch it, and i won\'t


I have a soft spot for animals, Could someone just describe wat goes on in that vid?  lol..

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2005, 02:58:49 am »
they are beating i think racoons, to an almost paraletic state, yet still consccious and skinning the alive, starting at the back with a knife, then just ripping it off with force and leaving the animal to die on other bodies of skinned creatures :|
very wrong indeed

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2005, 03:05:52 am »
holy cow thats just sick ...
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2005, 03:24:49 am »
sorry to break your pro peta bubble, but that movie was arranged by peta, therefore you can\'t trust it. Should I try and obtain videos of the bombings peta has funded of scientists that where gentically modifying animals and plants to live better in poor/drought-famine stricken countries? Things like that could save thousands of human lives each year, yet peta and other green groups try to ruin the work. Your friend\'s a moron if he believed that. See the camera work? What farm goes around professionally filming everything they do? \"and this is how we clean up the cow manure...\"

btw Foresteer: people like you are part of the problem, gullible to the point of violence, man\'s greatest piece of literature , the bible, says what? for man to be masters of the earth. No animals life is worth that of a humans, they don\'t have souls, nor a conciense(sp) They may feel pain, but the feel it stupidly, e.g.: \"ow, this thing is hurting me!\", not \"why are the people persecuting me?\" Think about it, if you are an evolutionist, this is actually a good thing, it is survival of the fittest, the humans, dominating other species that aren\'t \"fit.\" You need to look at a thing from all viewpoints before you can give it a true judgment. And if you start handing out \"tickets,\" you\'ll be arrested, because there are still sane people on the earth that think humans are better than animals.

Edit: Kixie, after viewing it, I can tell you that cg is advanced enough to recreate that, give a modler a copy of maya and some plugins and a year or so, and they could have made that.

Edit2: Demarthl: the animals are unconcious, they can\'t feel anything, it just makes it easier to get the fur off the body because it is still warm.
« Last Edit: March 28, 2005, 03:29:41 am by JellyWerker »
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2005, 03:39:10 am »
Although I completely disagree with JellyWerker in that animals are below humans (in some philosophical ways, I think they are superior) I must agree that PETA is not to be trusted. I like green groups, but PETA is a disgrace to the cause - their use of violence and terrorism is unacceptable.


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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2005, 03:53:32 am »
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sorry to break your pro peta bubble, but that movie was arranged by peta, therefore you can\'t trust it. Should I try and obtain videos of the bombings peta has funded of scientists that where gentically modifying animals and plants to live better in poor/drought-famine stricken countries? Things like that could save thousands of human lives each year, yet peta and other green groups try to ruin the work. Your friend\'s a moron if he believed that. See the camera work? What farm goes around professionally filming everything they do? \"and this is how we clean up the cow manure...\"

btw Foresteer: people like you are part of the problem, gullible to the point of violence, man\'s greatest piece of literature , the bible, says what? for man to be masters of the earth. No animals life is worth that of a humans, they don\'t have souls, nor a conciense(sp) They may feel pain, but the feel it stupidly, e.g.: \"ow, this thing is hurting me!\", not \"why are the people persecuting me?\" Think about it, if you are an evolutionist, this is actually a good thing, it is survival of the fittest, the humans, dominating other species that aren\'t \"fit.\" You need to look at a thing from all viewpoints before you can give it a true judgment. And if you start handing out \"tickets,\" you\'ll be arrested, because there are still sane people on the earth that think humans are better than animals.

Edit: Kixie, after viewing it, I can tell you that cg is advanced enough to recreate that, give a modler a copy of maya and some plugins and a year or so, and they could have made that.

Edit2: Demarthl: the animals are unconcious, they can\'t feel anything, it just makes it easier to get the fur off the body because it is still warm.


aye true, at some points they are, then at some points they\'re in so much pain they just kinda switch off

im going to sound completely ignorant now, but i honestly don\'t care whats happening there, they aren\'t trying to take my skin, not my problem.

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2005, 03:54:34 am »
Is this the one with the raccoon? My friends tell me about it. I dont like to watch cruel stuff where things get hurt, and my brother would kick my arse if he found out i was, so i wont bother. i know what its about, but im not gonna watch it, just thinking about it gives me the creeps. ive seen like the first 4 seconds or less, and it shows the raccoons face.

Anyway, like JellyWerker said, its just how you look at it. I support \"greens\" and al that stuff, but im not a vegetarian or anything.

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No animals life is worth that of a humans, they don\'t have souls, nor a conciense(sp) They may feel pain, but the feel it stupidly, e.g.: \"ow, this thing is hurting me!\", not \"why are the people persecuting me?\"

You dont know what the animal is thinking, so how do you know they dont have feelings? And, who said they have no soul or concsience? is there really a way to prove an existance of a \"soul\"? touchy subject.

*runs away and goes to do something worth while, like NOT watching cruel videos*
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2005, 03:55:05 am »
What jackass would do such a thing. I mean if. Don\'t those bastards have the morals to atleast KILL the poor basterds before they skin em? Those guys will burn in hell. Poor animals man. What sick people there are in this world...

Im not an animal rights guy or anything but thats just f***ed up.
Oh my god, I feel so sick watching this... Then again it might be from some personal problems going on...

And yes I stopped it after about 30 seconds. Oh my god my I think I\'m going to cry.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2005, 03:58:56 am »
What really got me was that they did this when the animal was ALIVE. Its bad enough that you dont just kill the animal with something quick but doing it slowly and to the point where you already skinnned the animal and you left it to stay living is just pointless.

Things like this make me wish we never came into being :\\  Humans suck and the whole world knows it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2005, 04:18:09 am »
I think eflixxi aduro summed it up quite well.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2005, 07:04:22 am »
Although I have no love for peta and their ways, this video and these people piss me off.  The problem though, is that unless this will be outlawed under pentalty of some sort, this WILL go on because there will always be people with less emotions for animals and there will always be violence like this.  Now, peta is only giving us stress by showing this.  YOU KNOW we cannot do anything because this is different country, differnt values.  What we gonna do?  Invade their country like Iraq and start demand they stop cruelty to animals???  heh
Kids, don\'t become green, don\'t become blue.  just understand that this stuff is unavoidable. There\'s always going to be violence of this sort, and even worse in some cases.  If you don\'t like this, don\'t participate, don\'t think bout it. IF you will think about it more and more, you will become one of Peta and they are in fact radicals (even if it\'s for good cause)

DON\'T watch this stuff, this will only make you stressed and saddenned.

PS. please delete link. Really not appropriate (worse than pron)
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